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Zargabad Life v1.0 - Zargabad Life GangWarfare
« on: March 12, 2011, 12:48:18 am »
Hello,

I want to practice scripting, and by doing that I wanted to edit a Zargabad Life mission. I am looking for the original Zargabad Life mission. I would like the mission that was just ported to ArmA 2. Maybe get the GW one.

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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2011, 12:53:59 am »
Where are you from Salkovich? I am also looking to make my own ZL mission too


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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2011, 12:57:13 am »
Where are you from Salkovich? I am also looking to make my own ZL mission too
Well, what do you mean "from"? I'm very intrested in building a new ZL, with real players. Join my on TS 3. ch.teamspeak.cc 9069

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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2011, 02:35:01 pm »
Think about it.
Starting out is one of the hardest things you can do.

You'll need good admins, regular players, updates/your own dev team, a cash flow - donations or otherwise.

Losing just one of those can kill you.

If you want to do it, do it. However it's going to be extremely hard.
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2011, 02:33:23 am »
I agree with Neil.

Been there, done that. Even with the motivation of having a working stats saving system, it didn't get very far. Issetea's case is pretty rare, solo'ing such a project worked for him because he had no life and was/is studying informatics.

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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2011, 07:17:40 am »
MAY I INTERJECT FOR A MOMENT?!!?!?!?!?!??!!??!?!?!?!??!??!?!??!?!?!


Now that I've got your attention:


Lemme spit some knowledge in ya direction, homie.

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Anyway, best way to get your own ZL server up and running, is to sow dessention amongst the fuckers currently in ANOTHER ZL server.

It's what AAA did... And it's what TCG did.

You want developers?

Fucking Fan-Tastic.

There's plenty of devs that play on the ZL servers, and the IL servers that are pissed off at the current situation in TCG... Get on their servers, and play for a while.

Talk to people, and get others to say: "That's some bullshit, I can't believe this crap, they're so one sided, this double standards rediculous, etc."

(HOOAH! Long sentences!)

You get the basic concept.

Best way to start YOUR OWN shit?

Take away what gives the opponent their power.

Which is their player base.

Call them out on their bullshit in front of other players, and then sneak in that you've got your own shit in the works.

Eventually, when enough dissention has been sewn, prop up your own server.

People'll start to say: "I've had enough of ZL.... What's this shit about? Hey, it's got the name of that guy who knows about all the issues in TCG / (random group), let me check it out."

Word hits a couple friends.

Then a couple more.


BOOM!

You've got your own community.







Yes....

I'm fucking smart.

Thanks.


BTW...

I better get an admin slot in this new group of yours.

I'm AMAZINGLY good at subterfuge.

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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2011, 11:57:24 am »
what is the big thing about tcg ?  their a tiny clan on a tiny game ..
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2011, 01:37:27 pm »
ROFL:

"Theres pleanty of dev's who play on ZL"

Like fuck their is.

I've only met 1 other "Life Mission" dev who has over 3 brain cells so far and thats XJ.

And he has also got bored of these types of missions.

Other's try real hard.


Secondly:

Good idea's without much backing Deez. Say "Oh this is shit" will generaly get someone saying "Why" and that will end in a dev saying "I'll go fix that".
Your mission has to be better to get players. Players are pushed away by bad admins. Players also get pushed away when there is not enough admins.
Your mission cant stand without a cashflow. Donating money yourself will burn yourself out. Trust me, it gets lonely having the same 3-5 donators who are hardcore and no one else wanting to.

Thirdly:

Just take a look at their community. 2 admins who were kicked off for abusing and a guy who can't work out simple scripts.
This is gana be hellarious
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2011, 01:49:55 pm »
question ..
i have run clans and i found it very easy actually saying that though.

z you were correct about that thing m8 ( in the pm )

anway the questions follow:

why would an admin who has 0 knowledge of scripting want to make a new zl mission also offer to pay for one?

also anyone know who double doppler is and what he is connected to ?
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2011, 05:17:18 pm »
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2011, 06:08:59 pm »
Medic, are you referring to the OP?

AFAIK, Double Doppler is a normal rp-mods CL player, not the most involved and active either.

Edit: Thought about it. What makes you so sure Double Hack = Double Doppler?
« Last Edit: March 13, 2011, 06:16:26 pm by XJ »

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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2011, 08:16:17 pm »
z you were correct about that thing m8 ( in the pm )

Which PM?
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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2011, 09:45:23 pm »
ROFL:

"Theres pleanty of dev's who play on ZL"

Like fuck their is. 

I've only met 1 other "Life Mission" dev who has over 3 brain cells so far and thats XJ.

And he has also got bored of these types of missions.

Other's try real hard.


Say what you want, fact is... There's a good amount of devs that still play ZL. Maybe you haven't interacted with them on the TD servers. But I know who I'm talking about.

Maybe you should get to know them, too.

Secondly:

Good idea's without much backing Deez. Say "Oh this is shit" will generaly get someone saying "Why" and that will end in a dev saying "I'll go fix that".


What are you talking about without much backing?

What I've said is a fact.

This is exactly how The Cock Grinders have so many players on BOTH their servers, and such a good following with their private mod, as well as with the public one.

You talk shit about the mission, lightly, at any opportunity, at different times, just one, or two notes, and eventually, the consensus will be exactly what you want it to be.

You don't have to point out anything regarding the mission... You could simply embed yourself within the community, and then complain to the players as opposed to the admins.

They'll get sick and tired of what they deem to be unfairness, exploits on the admins side, etc.

You seriously don't see how AAA and the other ones did that? THEY DID IT TO YOUR OWN FUCKING GROUP!!!
Your mission has to be better to get players. Players are pushed away by bad admins. Players also get pushed away when there is not enough admins.


Agreed.

Your mission cant stand without a cashflow. Donating money yourself will burn yourself out. Trust me, it gets lonely having the same 3-5 donators who are hardcore and no one else wanting to.

That's where the "steal players" idea kicks in.

Regardless of what you might think, I DO know what I'm talking about. Creating dissent amongst their ranks, and slowly but surely stealing their player base w/ a better, and more improved upon mission will do nothing but ensnare more and more players in the vacuum that is ZL.

Just take a look at their community. 2 admins who were kicked off for abusing and a guy who can't work out simple scripts.
This is gana be hellarious

U sure we're talking about the same 2 groups here?

Cuz one of them has a shit-load of (shitty) admins, a large player base, and the other has a small-medium amount, and a good following on a public ZL mission.
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2011, 09:58:33 pm »
I know everyone does it.

But when you have good devs players complain to them.
I have to hand it to Gman, he is one hell of a politician. It just shows pure skill how he can say shit about anouther server, make his own better and then get players to complain to him.

You can't create dissent without a reason. If you don't have a reason, your complaining is destroyed by a regular player and that then makes you and your community look like twats.

But again, Gman has a way with people. It's REALLY strange to watch it happen, I never gained that skill. If you ever see him handle a problem or try and get something from someone you could learn a lot.

As for The Cock Grinders - They have been lacking recently. AAA could fill a 45 slot server and TCG had 30. Thats on a weekday.



But yeah, you do need a good dev team to make missions. I am not really involved anymore, but there is some huge gaps in ZL that someone without much scripting experience could fix. Then that community would have a good playerbase.

Overall - I belive that bullshitting another side will work, but you need SOME reason to do it, even if it isnt a very big one. Having a better mission helps.
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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2011, 10:34:38 pm »

also anyone know who double doppler is and what he is connected to ?


Double Hack is Double Doppler.

When I was on TCG under my alias, he would constantly bother me, and say that he would expose me on this site, and try to rub it in.

I told him to go eat a dick, and that I don't give a fuck.
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