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Re: 1TB optical disc
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2008, 08:52:39 am »
Furthermore imagine game consoles that run on these tera discs...
Bye bye Blu Ray
Never thought of that. Wow...
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Re: 1TB optical disc
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2008, 07:53:21 pm »
Lets just see and wait. Maybe it turns out not to be so reliable or not that cheap.
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Re: 1TB optical disc
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2008, 10:00:56 pm »
Lets just see and wait. Maybe it turns out not to be so reliable or not that cheap.

Well looking at the entire human history of technology, eventually something of that size will be both. Just depends on what has to be done to make it feasible.

As for games being run off of Terabyte discs that would be something interesting. I'm surprised PC Game studios arn't getting behind this. I mean with all their whining about piracy, a tereabyte sized disc at least now won't be pirated alot  :icon_laugh

I'm trying to imagine the download time off of mininova for that  :icon_o_o
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Re: 1TB optical disc
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2008, 10:24:34 pm »
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a tereabyte sized disc at least now won't be pirated alot
Wanna bet?
I have seen dual layer DVD games that have a shitty "protection" that just -fills- all the blank areas of the disk...when the game it's self is ripped from the "protection" it is less than a single layer DVD.

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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2008, 01:17:02 am »
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a tereabyte sized disc at least now won't be pirated alot
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I have seen dual layer DVD games that have a shitty "protection" that just -fills- all the blank areas of the disk...when the game it's self is ripped from the "protection" it is less than a single layer DVD.

I'm not talking about the "protection" that companies come up with, it's simply a matter of size and time. Unless there's a massive boost in writing speed it would take hours to write a terabite sized disc. Downloading a copy wouldn't exactly take 10 minutes like CDs take. Realistically years down the road it will be where we are today in CD speeds, but it'll take a few years for the hardware to catch up
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Re: 1TB optical disc
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2008, 03:04:23 am »
Well I was just thinking of the "protection" part of it...with most of the disk filled with nonsense data.

Some game I d/l and checked out in the past 4 weeks took up a full dual layer DVD for D1 and almost all of a regular DVD for D2...point is that it is a -large- game and I d/l it overnight.

I personally don't know anyone with a blu-ray as it is and they still cost a mint...the blank disks must not be cheap either.

By the time Nero supports this newer 1TB disk I will have died of old age.

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Re: 1TB optical disc
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2008, 05:47:03 am »
That's just idiotic for a company to do that to "protect" their game. It's a waste of their time and money, as well as probably slowing down our drive when it reads the disc.
And you downloaded a 2-dvd game overnight? What kind of bandwidth is available to you :icon_o_o?
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Re: 1TB optical disc
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2008, 10:28:37 am »
By the time Nero supports this newer 1TB disk I will have died of old age.
Ah, so we don't have to wait that long. Joking Z, you'll live to be at least 200. Hopefully. Otherwise I have no American correspondent (other than Symantic). In a video shop close to my house, there's a small section of Blu-ray DVD's. What's interesting is that the DVD's there aren't all newly released... Some being over a decade old. But other than that one video shop, the only time I've heard about Blu-ray discs was either on here or on another forum.
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Re: 1TB optical disc
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2008, 01:02:58 pm »
Seriously guys, I don't think the disc protection software is anymore than 1-2 MB... If it was much bigger than that we'd have to wait long time for the drive to read as well as process it all (since disc protection mechanisms often use encryption).

This console idea is way ahead of it's time anyway because how big a game can be will always be subject to the size of the consoles memory, GPU & CPU speed/size. Unless of course they are just cramming loads of HD movie cut scenes onto the thing.
The average PS3 game only takes up 6GB of the 25GB disc.

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Re: 1TB optical disc
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2008, 06:52:22 pm »
Blue Ray was always a fail imo.
Go to a store, look 1 movie thats new: 1 Normal one, 1 with bonus, 1 Full HD, and a Blue Ray one.   :heckler1

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Re: 1TB optical disc
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2008, 09:27:21 pm »
Seriously guys, I don't think the disc protection software is anymore than 1-2 MB... If it was much bigger than that we'd have to wait long time for the drive to read as well as process it all (since disc protection mechanisms often use encryption).

This console idea is way ahead of it's time anyway because how big a game can be will always be subject to the size of the consoles memory, GPU & CPU speed/size. Unless of course they are just cramming loads of HD movie cut scenes onto the thing.
The average PS3 game only takes up 6GB of the 25GB disc.

you can 'load on the fly' remember swiv for the c64 ? , it had a 1 mb game map with enemies equaling 2 mb and the whole computer had a maximum memory of 64 k with os stripping , lda 00 , sta 01 .. but anyway , it has not much to do with the size of memory , never did so long as the os can load quick enough which most consoles can load 34 megs of data from the dvds in 1 milisecond strips , so you would never notice it reading unless you looked at the light , this new 1 tb storage will open up virtual reality in real time most likely , all they need to do is develope the suit and vision shades .
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Re: 1TB optical disc
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2008, 09:42:16 pm »
Blue Ray was always a fail imo.
Go to a store, look 1 movie thats new: 1 Normal one, 1 with bonus, 1 Full HD, and a Blue Ray one.   :heckler1

I'm guessing you're not from the US (Correct me if i'm wrong) but Blu-Ray has all but won, there are whole racks of them for sale here. HD companies have thrown in the towel, I think there's only one company that still supports it (Once again someone correct me if i'm wrong), so essentially Blu-Ray has the market for Hi-Def movies. . .
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Re: 1TB optical disc
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2008, 05:30:04 am »
Blue Ray was always a fail imo.
Go to a store, look 1 movie thats new: 1 Normal one, 1 with bonus, 1 Full HD, and a Blue Ray one.   :heckler1

I'm guessing you're not from the US (Correct me if i'm wrong) but Blu-Ray has all but won, there are whole racks of them for sale here. HD companies have thrown in the towel, I think there's only one company that still supports it (Once again someone correct me if i'm wrong), so essentially Blu-Ray has the market for Hi-Def movies. . .
Ahh, now you see it's totally the opposite here in Australia. Blu-ray is just starting to emerge (as per my previous post) and HD is still the in-thing. My father recently bought an 83cm LCD tv. Noticing blur, only a week after buying it he bought a Set top box (I think thats what they are called, correct me if im wrong). It greatly improved quality and it makes watching NASCAR's SO much better (especially with the surround sound). Well with the box we got extra channel, HD channels. They feature some good movies and these channels are still and "innovation" here in Aust. I know it sounds like we are behind in the world but I like to believe that we are only second, behind (yes you guessed it) America.
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Re: 1TB optical disc
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2008, 11:42:26 am »
Seriously guys, I don't think the disc protection software is anymore than 1-2 MB...
Well believe it or not a -really crappy- "protection system" is out and being used (not often) that does in fact simply FILL a disks blank space with total CRAP and does -nothing- but check to see if the "crap" is there.
No encryption...no double checks. No "crap" between sectors = no running the game.

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Re: 1TB optical disc
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2008, 02:31:05 pm »
Well believe it or not a -really crappy- "protection system" is out and being used (not often) that does in fact simply FILL a disks blank space with total CRAP and does -nothing- but check to see if the "crap" is there.
No encryption...no double checks. No "crap" between sectors = no running the game.

Ah true, but the most popular protections like Safedisc and Securom don't use dummy files.

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