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Re: Think about it
« Reply #45 on: June 27, 2008, 11:46:52 pm »
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"The Constitution shall never be construed... to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their ownarms." ---Samuel Adams

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Re: Think about it
« Reply #46 on: June 28, 2008, 12:40:04 am »
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"THE PEOPLE" NARROWLY PREVAIL, 5-4 By Mark Alexander "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a freeState, the right of the People to keep and bear arms, shall not beinfringed." ---Second Amendment to the United StatesConstitution (http://PatriotPost.US/histdocs/constitution/)

Yesterday, in a narrow 5-4 vote (Scalia, Alito, Roberts, Thomas andKennedy), the Supreme Court reaffirmed, in District of Columbiav. Heller (http://PatriotPost.US/alexander/edition.asp?id=568), that thepeople's inherent right to keep and bear arms is plainly enumerated inour Constitution. The Court ruled that the Second Amendment ensures anindividual right, that DC could not ban handguns, and that operable gunsmay be maintained in the homes of law-abiding DC residents.

However, the ruling still leaves open the question of whether the Bill of Rights has legal precedence over state and municipal firearm restrictions. As UCLA Law School professor and constitutional scholar Eugene Volokh pointsout, "The Heller decision only involved the Second Amendment's effects onfederal laws (including laws of federal enclaves, such as DC). Whether the Constitution limits state and local gun bans---which is to say, whether the Second Amendment is 'incorporated' against states and their subdivisions bythe Fourteenth Amendment---will have to be decided in a future case."

Thus, 15 minutes after the Heller decision was announced, the Illinois StateRifle Association announced its suit against the city of Chicago, which hasgun restrictions similar to those overruled in the District of Columbia,in order to establish that precedent.

Similar suits will no doubt follow in other states.

In a masterful feat of doubletalk, Barack Hussein Obama (http://PatriotPost.US/alexander/edition.asp?id=590), who erroneously asserts, "The notion that somehow local jurisdictions can't initiate gunlaws isn't borne out by our Constitution," claims the Supreme Court agreed with his interpretation.

Mind you, this is the same Barack Obama who recently said, "I have never favored an all-out ban on handguns," even while denying the plain truththat his signature appears on a questionnaire indicating that he does favorsuch a ban; the same Barack Obama who recently said during a 16 April debatewhen asked by Charlie Gibson whether the DC gun ban is consistent with theConstitution, "Well, Charlie, I confess I obviously haven't listened to thebriefs and looked at all the evidence." Would Obama make the same argument about local jurisdictions regulatingissues like segregation?
 
Does he suggest, by extension then, that our national Constitution can be amended by judicial dictates and local ordinances?
I can't help but ponder how future 2A cases would fare if the Obama/Clinton ticket wins in November and then stacks the courts with judicial activists (http://PatriotPost.US/alexander/edition.asp?id=330) who subscribe to their adulterated view of a "Living Constitution." (http://PatriotPost.US/alexander/edition.asp?id=330)

There is no more important constitutional issue regarding the liberty of our Republic than that of defending the plain language and original intent of our Second Amendment (http://PatriotPost.US/alexander/edition.asp?id=559).

As James Madison, our Constitution's principal author, wrote in theFederalist Papers (http://PatriotPost.US/fedpapers/) (No. 46),
"The ultimate authority... resides in the people alone... The advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation... forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition."

More to the point, Justice Joseph Story, appointed to the Supreme Court by Madison, wrote in his Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States(1833), "The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of the republic; since it offers a strong moral check against usurpation and arbitrary power of the rulers;and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance,enable the people to resist and triumph over them."
The "Living Constitution" Leftists, however, have been whittling away atthe people's powers for more than a century.
 
In Federalist No. 81 Alexander Hamilton writes, "[T]here is not a syllablein the [Constitution] which directly empowers the national courts to construe the laws according to the spirit of the Constitution..."
But, Thomas Jefferson feared, "The opinion which gives to the judges the right to decide what laws are constitutional and what not, not only for themselves in their own sphere of action but for the Legislature and Executive also in their spheres, would make the Judiciary a despotic branch."
 
Jefferson clearly understood human nature, and though our Founders never intended the courts to amend our Constitution by judicial diktat, he foresawwhat British historian Lord John Acton affirmed in 1887, a hundred years after the adoption of our Constitution: "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

Fortunately, the Supreme Court can still occasionally produce a simple majority of constitutionalconstructionists (http://PatriotPost.US/alexander/edition.asp?id=487) who rule on the basis of that venerable document's original intent.
That certainly describes Justice Antonin Scalia, for whom the Constitutionhas long been an unerring compass. Justice Scalia, who wrote the majority opinion in District of Columbia vs. Heller, aptly noted in 2005:
"As long as judges tinker with the Constitutionto 'do what the people want,' instead of what the document actually commands,politicians who pick and confirm new federal judges will naturally want onlythose who agree with them politically."

In the Heller case, Justice Scalia wrote, "Nowhere else in the Constitution does a "right" attributed to "the people" refer to anything other than an individual right. What is more, in all six other provisions of the Constitutionthat mention "the people," the term unambiguously refers to all members of the political community, not an unspecified subset... The Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms... The very text of the Second Amendment implicitly recognizes the pre-existence of the right and declares only that it 'shall not be infringed'."

Justice Scalia continued in defense of original intent: "We know of no other enumerated constitutional right whose core protection has been subjected to a freestanding 'interest-balancing' approach. The very enumeration of the right takes out of the hands of government---even the Third Branch of Government---the power to decide on a case-by-case basis whether the right is really worth insisting upon. A constitutional guarantee subject to future judges' assessments of its usefulness is no constitutional guarantee at all.

Constitutional rights are enshrined with the scope they were understood to have when the people adopted them, whether or not future legislatures or (yes) even future judges think that scope too broad... Undoubtedly some think that the Second Amendment is outmoded.
That is perhaps debatable, but what is not debatable is that it is not the role of this Court to pronounce the Second Amendment extinct." Indeed, the Second Amendment is "the palladium of the liberties of the republic," and those who fail to support it as such do so at great peril to the liberty of future generations of Americans. However, when the rights ofman, as enumerated in our Declaration of Independence and its subordinate exposition, our Constitution, hang in the balance, Patriots do not rely ona court of men for interpretation. (Calling all Patriots! Please take 30 seconds to sign this importantpetition, "The Right of the People... shall not beinfringed" (http://PatriotPetitions.US/second))
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Re: Think about it
« Reply #47 on: June 28, 2008, 12:54:08 am »
I think I may have accidently gotten Z worked up..
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Re: Think about it
« Reply #48 on: June 28, 2008, 01:04:12 am »
When it comes to human Freedom or the Rights of the People I have always been "worked up".

I spent a few years working four days a week for free after my normal job,as an engineer for a radio program that was on 300 stations and taught the US Constitution.

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Re: Think about it
« Reply #49 on: July 31, 2008, 07:48:39 am »
Glenn Beck of CNN Nightly News had Ron Paul on tonight...talking about the -soon- to come world wide economic disaster.
Beck has this nice t-shirt I think I will order:
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Re: Think about it
« Reply #50 on: August 14, 2008, 11:29:40 pm »
If you can VOTE then call your loacal Rep and tell them to support H.R.6691 -and- that you want the Mayor and Council of Washington DC to be arrested for violation of Rights under U.S.C. 18 sec 241/242

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Re: Think about it
« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2008, 09:55:22 am »
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HARROLD, Texas — A tiny Texas school district may be the first in the nation to allow teachers and staff to pack guns for protection when classes begin later this month, a newspaper reported.

Trustees at the Harrold Independent School District approved a district policy change last October so employees can carry concealed firearms to deter and protect against school shootings, provided the gun-toting teachers follow certain requirements.
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"When the federal government started making schools gun-free zones, that's when all of these shootings started. Why would you put it out there that a group of people can't defend themselves? That's like saying 'sic 'em' to a dog," Thweatt said in Friday's online edition of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

All I can think is why has it taken so long for people to stand up for their Right and start protecting the kids in school like they do overseas in Israel?

Full story here:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5945430.html

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Re: Think about it
« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2008, 10:27:57 am »
'Guns in the hands of good people'
A testament to Second Amendment rights
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June 28, 2008, was a defining moment in my life. It was the day I shot and killed a man in the defense of my life and the lives of others. We all have defining moments. They might not be as tragic as taking another man's life, but they are events that change the way we look at things -- or even, perhaps, how we live our lives.
Full story here:
http://ydr.inyork.com/ci_10219218?source=most_emailed

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Re: Think about it
« Reply #53 on: August 22, 2008, 10:52:25 am »
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HARROLD, Texas — A tiny Texas school district may be the first in the nation to allow teachers and staff to pack guns for protection when classes begin later this month, a newspaper reported.

Trustees at the Harrold Independent School District approved a district policy change last October so employees can carry concealed firearms to deter and protect against school shootings, provided the gun-toting teachers follow certain requirements.
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"When the federal government started making schools gun-free zones, that's when all of these shootings started. Why would you put it out there that a group of people can't defend themselves? That's like saying 'sic 'em' to a dog," Thweatt said in Friday's online edition of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

All I can think is why has it taken so long for people to stand up for their Right and start protecting the kids in school like they do overseas in Israel?

Full story here:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5945430.html
Only in America. Another reason why American's shouldn't have guns to start with. I do admit though I do sleep easier knowing that if Australia was invaded that America would give us support as soon as they could.
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Re: Think about it
« Reply #54 on: September 16, 2008, 07:19:27 pm »
You need to tell the polititions to screw off and be free to protect yourself.

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Re: Think about it
« Reply #55 on: September 21, 2008, 09:27:40 am »
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Only in America. Another reason why American's shouldn't have guns to start with. I do admit though I do sleep easier knowing that if Australia was invaded that America would give us support as soon as they could.

Where in Australia do you reside Jahovus?
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Re: Think about it
« Reply #56 on: November 17, 2008, 08:45:25 am »
Gun Run Nationwide
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There has been a run on guns and ammo nationwide causing many distributors and manufacturers to stop taking orders until they can fulfill their backlog. The weapon of choice is any semi-automatic rifle previously banned during the Clinton administration. It is fully expected that gun owners will be disenfranchised, once again, under the Obama administration. Only this time it will be even worse.
http://www.libertybelles.org/articles/buygunsnow.htm



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Re: Think about it
« Reply #57 on: December 09, 2008, 10:17:52 pm »
kind of sad you need something as a firearm to defend yourself....from what actually?
Oh thats right, from your own residents.


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Re: Think about it
« Reply #58 on: December 12, 2008, 06:28:09 am »
kind of sad you need something as a firearm to defend yourself....from what actually?
Oh thats right, from your own residents.


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Our protected Right is so we can tell the government to piss off if the need should arise.
Every other good thing about it is iceing on the cake.

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Re: Think about it
« Reply #59 on: December 13, 2008, 05:21:56 pm »
What a proper country to live in, having the need to have firearms to protect yourself from your own goverment?
barbarian way of thinking  :smile