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Re: BS Forums
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2007, 10:54:17 pm »
I think I already read that some guy has a legit 10 digit

unless that was one of you guys
Lol, it could be true. I don't think BIS has given any official replies on the many "Are 10 digit ID's legit" questions.
This would throw a spanner in the works of their "?_userID > 999999999 then kick" idea.  :icon_laugh

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Re: BS Forums
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2007, 11:33:01 pm »
Well im 85% sure Suma (ondrej) said 10 digit ideas were fake on BIS forums. But then again who cares i got 2 9 digit ID'S :D

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Re: BS Forums
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2007, 11:39:17 pm »
Well im 85% sure Suma (ondrej) said 10 digit ideas were fake on BIS forums. But then again who cares i got 2 9 digit ID'S :D

No...he never said that,somebody claimed that he got a PM/email from him saying so.

He would have no idea anyhow as BI has NOTHING to do with the CD-KEYS...that and the ID's made from them is up to the many PUBLISHERS.

The on-line keygen provides 100% valid keys/ID's from 6-12 #'s long.

EDIT: See this thread:
http://tkc-community.net/forum/index.php?topic=6547.0

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Re: BS Forums
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2007, 11:59:58 pm »
well, i keep trying to find the thread and it seems it was deleted or something...


it was a 9th infantry guy saying his clan guy bought it and cant play the game bc he keeps getting kicked form other servers

and was there any way around it w/o buying the game again lol

edit found it

http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?s=1fcd380c78498c35b698ad1ae8e639fb;act=ST;f=68;t=68043

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Re: BS Forums
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2007, 12:25:08 am »
Lol that guy has confussed me he is saying its legal but stuff is happening to him? hmmm

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Re: BS Forums
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2007, 12:29:26 am »
10 digit ID's are legal or the GS Master server would not allow them. Those on the BI forums saying otherwise are talking out their ass.

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Re: BS Forums
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2007, 02:12:25 am »
im sure if a hell of a alot more copies were sold 10 digit ID's wouldnt be an issue....

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Re: BS Forums
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2007, 03:58:19 am »
well, i keep trying to find the thread and it seems it was deleted or something...


it was a 9th infantry guy saying his clan guy bought it and cant play the game bc he keeps getting kicked form other servers

and was there any way around it w/o buying the game again lol

edit found it

http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?s=1fcd380c78498c35b698ad1ae8e639fb;act=ST;f=68;t=68043


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HEllo guy's a clan member of me has a problem.. and i hope you guy's can help,
He has a 10 digit ID and he bought his game legally a Uk version downloaded from a link on the Official ARMA website..
But evrytime he joins, ouer server kicks him and say's Illegal versions will degrade or something... We heard some rumours that 10 digit ID's are illegal so we are filtering those ID numbers now...

1 question... Is 10 digit ID's legal? (please official people answer this question so we will al know it)
2 question... What can he do to fix this if 10 digit ID's are illegal. (and don't come with buy a new one)

Also he turned into a bird this last day's while playing. I heard that is because of illegal version also..
He is playing this game allready for about 6 months and al this stuff just happend in the past few day's after he downloaded the patch 1.5 to 1.8 after a total reinstall and got the new key from the page he downloaded it from (www.metaboli.co.uk). From this point this weird things started to happen.

Thanks for the time... hoping for an answer.

Edited by {9thInf}Winchester Delta1 on Sep. 05 2007,16:05 

Anyone notice it has NO OFFICAL ANSWERE?
The reason is twofold...
BI has NO control over either the CD-KEYS -or- the resulting ID# size.

To those ArmA Fanboys who say that the info on this subject posted on TKC should not be accepted...wake up and smell the coffee.

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Offical game forums are filled with anti-cheaters bitching about TKC...

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Re: BS Forums
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2007, 04:19:38 am »
Well if they stop 10 digit IDs. We'll just publish a tutorial and then a tool on how to change the ID to whatever one wants. Besides 10 digit or even 100 digit IDs aren't illegal. Changing IDs or keys isn't illegal. key changing _can_ be used for criminal activities that we don't support. But the tool and the keys themselves aren't illegal.

We're also free to discuss anything we want here. That's free speech.
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Re: BS Forums
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2007, 04:24:35 am »
Will it ever be possible to take someone elses Id or get thee id and tur into key so then you have there ID?

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Re: BS Forums
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2007, 04:27:11 am »
You'll be able to use any ID you want. Turning it into a key is a bit problematic and I guess the algo doesn't use a one-to-one transformation ID->Key. But I could be wrong.
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Re: BS Forums
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2007, 04:31:25 am »
Well if they stop 10 digit IDs. We'll just publish a tutorial and then a tool on how to change the ID to whatever one wants.

True...but the fact remains what the facts are.
All the ID#s resulting from the keygen which uses the games algorithm of valid key vs ID...are valid.
BI has no control over either the KEYS or resulting ID#'s as that is in the hands of the many differant publishers...who use the SAME game embedded algorithm.

Anything a person could want to help "hack" a game COMES ON THE GAME DISK including any encryption/decryption information.
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Re: BS Forums
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2007, 04:40:04 am »
Will it ever be possible to take someone elses Id or get thee id and tur into key so then you have there ID?

The short answere is yes.

Will TKC ever make the infomation public?
I doubt it.

Read post #17 in this thread for a link to the subject that talks about reversed keyS.
I think that is far enough information to be in public hands at this point...any coder could do it with the other tools already out in the ArmA threads here.

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Re: BS Forums
« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2007, 06:43:09 am »
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i think bi have no control over the size of the digits... and the stupid keygen can also generate lower then 10 digits keys..


well i just cant beleave why people try to create cheats for arma.. its just stupid lame to create c cheat for a open-source game (every child can do it.. really) ... they should better try to do create stuff for games with a real anti-cheat protection, so they could learn something or just go to hell and die or whatever ^^

i think the MAIN problem is atm this command: disableUserInput

if you write a script which use this action, no one can stop the cheater and he can just fuck the server up! Also a big problem is that its too easy to write a script which allow you to spawn vehicle, buildings or every object you like... BI should really do something against this security problems or they community is just going down.

Today, a guy called: MrMedic joined on our server (with a 10 digit key..), he locked our inputs and just spawned shit at the start... since that our server is running in privat mode again and we just give our friends the password..... and i think if no one do something against this friendless cheater bastards all the server will run public...

But the community is also not great atm, a lot of people are just playing evolution (the mission is not bad... but why EVERY day the god damn same map? ). Remember.. who like to cheat if there is no ranking?? just add some vehicle respawn to the missions, stop that ranking bullshit and find a way to close the securty problem (the  "spawn and input" bug)(the input problem is easy to "repair".. we just added some sweet script to our server which fix that bug, but we dont know atm how to fix the spawn problem.. but i think we will find a way asap..) and no one really need to cheat, because its just no motivation... you cant win anything....

(execept the player vs player missions..)

At least i just can say... only idiots create and write cheats for arma, because its just a open source game and so just a work for idiots with small dicks  Most of the commands are just local on your computer, that allows arma to give you this variety of different missions, addons, modifications and maptypes... but it also allows noobs, like this TKC guys to write stupid, lame scripts which "makes super-cheats". But in fact, these cheats are not more then scripts and i beleave that every mission creater is a better scripter as these cheaters...

and @cheaters... .sqf files are better then these .sqs files which you use :P --- LAAAAME 

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i think bi have no control over the size of the digits... and the stupid keygen can also generate lower then 10 digits keys..
Correct on both points.

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well i just cant beleave why people try to create cheats for arma.. its just stupid lame to create c cheat for a open-source game (every child can do it.. really)
Incorrect.

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they should better try to do create stuff for games with a real anti-cheat protection, so they could learn something or just go to hell and die or whatever
TKC Dev's make cheats for all games even if TKC has no section for said game.
Many work for the same companies that develop said games at some leaval.
Many join TKC out of frustration of employers not listening to them about problems during software development.

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Today, a guy called: MrMedic joined on our server (with a 10 digit key..),
A 10 digit key IS a valid key...get that in your head.
MrM a.k.a. MrMedic is not just a section Mod here on TKC but a Mod/Admin on many coding sites.
He makes a pretty penny or two selling PunkBuster cheats and pays for his family's holidays with that "extra cash" a few times each year.

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But the community is also not great atm, a lot of people are just playing evolution
I agree.
Then again I myself LIKE Evolution.
I am still on patch 1.05 and use this map to allow me time to learn how to play the game fully...yes,without cheating.
When I feel that I can control every part of the game/map without "help" I may upgrade to patch 1.08 and play IN A SQUAD with Nic M. and the boys on the RN server(s).

Nic not only sales game servers he BUILDS and OVERCLOCKS each computer himself and hosts them in L.A. on the main western USA backbone (a dirrect Pacific O.C. line to AU from here as well as the L.A. DNS server...1 of 13 for the whole worlds internet).

Yes I also have contact with server salers/owners and give them the exact same amount of cooperation and respect they give me...both sides never talking about "what goes on" in the other camp...just fellow players having a few beers on TS and getting our game on same as on the TKC TS.
Fun shit...would not give it up for all the world.

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the input problem is easy to "repair".. we just added some sweet script to our server which fix that bug, but we dont know atm how to fix the spawn problem.. but i think we will find a way asap.
Easy?
Might seem so but all I can say is GOOD LUCK.
You will need it because I know better.

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only idiots create and write cheats for (insert game name HERE!)
They are far from idiots and the bigger the games anti-cheat system the more money they make with off TKC site sales.
Remember that many uppers inside TKC have or still do work for the software developers.

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it also allows noobs, like this TKC guys
Read the comment above this one...they are FAR from "noobs".

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Re: BS Forums
« Reply #29 on: September 08, 2007, 04:16:18 pm »

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I myself am not an idiot and have a 5 3/4" cock...but it is very fat.










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