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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #60 on: September 11, 2007, 11:44:11 pm »
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How is it legal using the SCP to lock players keyboards etc... Im no expert, but wouldn't that be classed as using a hack on another pc? whether or not its through a game. Im pretty sure thats not legit
Your only locking it through armed assault. It isnt done by locking keybored through the comp by sending a virus. Plus i have minimized the arma when i was locked and i can use keybored and mouse fine. So ur not modifying someones computer files really. At least i think so lol.

These guys dont have to target evo, but its a convenient map to do so imo

well i actively target Evo servers...

Any form of PvP is generally safe from my antics (well apart from me using Medics wallhack in CTF's  :icon_thumbsup Thnx btw Medic! its gr8!)

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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #61 on: September 12, 2007, 12:05:58 am »


How would you feel if you rented/bought a house, then lots of asylum seekers came round and started trashing your house? Of course a house is not a game, but think of the house as your server. Surely you can see the logic there.





here where i live we usually lock the doors and keep a shotgun handy

I leave the doors unlocked and carry my Ruger on my side.
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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #62 on: September 12, 2007, 12:32:54 am »
unfortunately my ruger p95 was stolen while i was gone, im waiting on the day they come back and try and shoot me with it...

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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #63 on: September 12, 2007, 03:12:51 am »
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here where i live we usually lock the doors and keep a shotgun handy

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I leave the doors unlocked and carry my Ruger on my side.
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lol... Are you guys fearing for your life or something? Anyone with half a brain will know to lock their doors etc... But like all the games that get released, their will always be a cheats/hacks, its near enough impossible to stop. Just the same as your house, no matter how many locks you put on door, someone will always find a way through. Having a shotgun or whatever it is you need to feel better wont make a difference.

Maybe a bit off topic but ah well.

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It doesn't matter. It doesn't make it less legal. Putting a TKer to jail ruins his game. That doesn't mean it's illegal. We're TKers, we shoot all no matter the map, if we like to.

Whether or not you think your right, you will always be wrong. Evolution is "suppose" to be a team based mission, not teamkill mission. If you don't like the rules for that mission why join? Why not join a DM? That way you get to kill everyone on site, without ruining the mission for others, or does this not make sense to you? Maybe not.

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If a server "crashes" that way it's completely legal. You're just using the features of the game to a limit your and other people's hardware/software can't cope anymore. It's all within the bounds of the game. The game allows you to play it and to use its features. That's what you paid for.

If you think thats legal, then maybe you have a screw missing. Missions that are made by the community are tested by both the author and the server admin, this way they can see whether or not their server can handle it. If the server can't handle the mission, they don't use it. Were as your so called "scripts" are used to prevent gameplay, knowing fully well how much they drop the FPS thus eating at the system memory causing players games to CTD and sometimes the server too. So you don't need to play stupid, I know what im on about  :wink2

Before you say its the game and not our scripts that crash the servers, you know what the scripts are capable of. You know the more scripts you use, the more crap you spawn,  the better chance the server will crash.

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Your only locking it through armed assault. It isnt done by locking keybored through the comp by sending a virus. Plus i have minimized the arma when i was locked and i can use keybored and mouse fine. So ur not modifying someones computer files really. At least i think so lol.

These guys dont have to target evo, but its a convenient map to do so imo

Either way your interfering with that players privacy. Which you have no right to do. Before you go on with evolution saying how it puts you in jail for teamkilling, don't you get warned? Im pretty sure you do. So basically its within your hands whether you go to jail or not. Anti-cheaters on the other hand can't do anything apart from tabbing out, if you said that works, but they don't get a warning when a cheater joins the mission. Of course this is up to the developer/publisher to try and counter your attempts, but you talk about "freedom" lmao??? So locking a players keyboard is classed as freedom is it? Have a re-think please  :icon_o_o

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well i actively target Evo servers...

Any form of PvP is generally safe from my antics (well apart from me using Medics wallhack in CTF's  icon_thumbsup Thnx btw Medic! its gr8!)

Ok, like i have already agreed that Evolution is the most boring mission ever, although my hat goes off to the mission maker for he's work. As for PvP, you have got to be really sad for using cheats on these, I mean come on lol... If you need cheats you make yourself stand out, I think only children do that. Its mainly called attention seeking, well I think that goes for every mission that you use cheats on, or any game.

One more thing about this "freedom" thing you have going on lol. If you go on servers that other people pay for and create havok in the name of freedom. Why do you have rules on these forums? No links to cheats in posts, people get warned for double posting etc... I thought it was all about the FREEDOM?  :icon_cry2

Last but not least  :icon_thumbsup

As of yet, no one has answered my question about why you think its right to wreck someones server that they pay for with their hard earned cash? With all the money you make from you so called "hobbies", why don't you invest it into a server for yourselves?












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« Reply #64 on: September 12, 2007, 03:18:34 am »
Yea, but this is no security group. We're all about maximizing freedom, the necessity for unlimited fun and creativity. Soon ordinary users will be able to do whatever they want in MP for the first time in the history of multiplayer gaming.  :cheers

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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #65 on: September 12, 2007, 05:46:13 am »
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Whether or not you think your right, you will always be wrong. Evolution is "suppose" to be a team based mission, not teamkill mission. If you don't like the rules for that mission why join? Why not join a DM? That way you get to kill everyone on site, without ruining the mission for others, or does this not make sense to you? Maybe not.

Whether or not you think your right, you will always be wrong. Dictators, kings and the likes are "supposed" to be fed and rule, not obey nor work. If you don't like the rules of a country why live there? Why not move? That way you get to live free, without ruining the country for others, or does this not make sense to you? Maybe not.

It's not about "right" and "wrong". It's about "right" and "right".

What does it matter what something is "supposed" to be? We're fully capable of thinking ourselves. DM, CTF, Coop doesn't matter. "The rules" are all imaginary and only applies to those who voluntarily follow them and limit their capabilities.

Free gaming is to do what one wants. If you want to do what we do, just get the SCP, it's a few posts higher up.

This forum is not a game. The rules apply here because we can enforce them. You're free to follow your own rules, but we're free to use our rules against yours.
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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #66 on: September 12, 2007, 07:56:12 am »
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Whether or not you think your right, you will always be wrong. Dictators, kings and the likes are "supposed" to be fed and rule, not obey nor work. If you don't like the rules of a country why live there? Why not move? That way you get to live free, without ruining the country for others, or does this not make sense to you? Maybe not.

I doubt it very much you can compare a country to a game. Just like in your eyes you say Doolittle can't compare rapist to you (TKC) Which btw I understand what point he's trying to make. If some random guy forces himself on your wife/girlfriend (presuming you are straight) whilst your not around, even though she says no, and he carries on, is that legal? Of course its by far the most horrific ordeal a woman can go through and should never happen to anyone, but how can you stop it from happening?

What about these so called terrorists? that go around with bombs blowing random people up? I think to myself why do these people do that? Is it out of stupidity? To prove a point? For freedom? Or maybe because there so called "God/Allah" deems it right to do so?

I don't think you (TKC) don't have a conscience but thats my opinon. If you did, you would think of others, other than yourselves.

I think you can see where this is going, but ill carry on for the hell of it.

You (TKC) try to play God, brainwashing people to use cheats. Yes you ain't forcing people to use them, but are the terrorists forced to do what they do? Yes the terrorist are real-life and your doing it in the cyber world, but what difference does it make? Why not try what you doing in the real world, instead of hiding behind a computer? I doubt it very much you will get far. But maybe seeing it on yourtube will make a lot of people laugh lol...

Put it this way, if I put ?1,000,000 infront of you then said you can have it for free, what would you do? ( I know the answer don't worry) So what happens when you put a few cheats on a website free for the public? Theirs a lot of stupid people that will jump at the chance to anything if its free.

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It's not about "right" and "wrong". It's about "right" and "right".

So what your saying is that all cheaters are doing the right thing, by obeying what you deem is right? So wheres the right when people want to relax and play a game cheat free, but they can't because of all the cheats?

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What does it matter what something is "supposed" to be? We're fully capable of thinking ourselves. DM, CTF, Coop doesn't matter. "The rules" are all imaginary and only applies to those who voluntarily follow them and limit their capabilities.

Well considering your joining someone else's server, you should have respect for that server. 90% of all ArmA servers only have a couple rules, which even a baby can understand.

1) No teamkilling
2) No cheating
3) No abusive language

I can't see anything wrong with those 3 rules. You can do your own thing as long as you don't break the rules that are stated as you enter. If you don't understand what all 3 rules mean, they mean play fair. Now whats wrong with that?

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This forum is not a game. The rules apply here because we can enforce them. You're free to follow your own rules, but we're free to use our rules against yours.

You sure? lol. Seems like to me your living in a fantasy world.

What rules?? Sorry have I missed something? The only rules ive seen is when people fuck up in their posts, but i think you make the rules up as you go along. Which btw isn't surprising.

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Free gaming is to do what one wants. If you want to do what we do, just get the SCP, it's a few posts higher up.

Going a bit off topic ain't we? I ain't hear to be recruited, nor am I hear to lower myself to your standards. Im hear to get some answers as to why you feel the need to cheat, also whether theirs any logic as to what it is you do, so far theres nothing. Im not here to argue, im not here to cry and im not here to moan. So please excuse me if you think im doing any of the following.

Why is it you can't answer my question? but you can make excuses for everything else?

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As of yet, no one has answered my question about why you think its right to wreck someones server that they pay for with their hard earned cash? With all the money you make from you so called "hobbies", why don't you invest it into a server for yourselves?
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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #67 on: September 12, 2007, 08:27:08 am »
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Are you guys fearing for your life or something?
I sure as hell don't.
Unlike your country non felons are armed.
In the part of California I am fishing in 9 out of 10 people carry a hidden hand gun legally...and we have the lowest crime rate you could imagine.

The right of the People to own and bare (use) arms in our constitution is there so people can put up a fight against the government if they need to.

Fuck fascism and socialist governments that don't trust their population. Only those Contries or States have people getting there homes broken into or raped,assaulted,robbed and go to jail if they kick the guys ass.

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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #68 on: September 12, 2007, 01:20:31 pm »
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Only those Contries or States have people getting there homes broken into or raped,assaulted,robbed and go to jail if they kick the guys ass.

Luckily the laws changed in my country now so this doesnt happen, even if you kill em!

anyways back on topic.....

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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #69 on: September 12, 2007, 03:11:25 pm »
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I doubt it very much you can compare a country to a game. Just like in your eyes you say Doolittle can't compare rapist to you (TKC) Which btw I understand what point he's trying to make. If some random guy forces himself on your wife/girlfriend (presuming you are straight) whilst your not around, even though she says no, and he carries on, is that legal? Of course its by far the most horrific ordeal a woman can go through and should never happen to anyone, but how can you stop it from happening?

Nono, im not comparing that. I'm just explaining my stance on the word "supposed" by showing a parallell case where it can be used as well. It's not like doolittles comparison, cheats have nothing to do with rape either. You can "suppose" things anywhere you like, but you can't hurt anybody in online games. Shooting people in RL is not the same thing as shooting people in-game. Supposing things in RL is the same thing as supposing things in-game. "You do wrong" because you don't do what's "supposed" whether it be ArmA or RL (according to you). But you seem to mean that because arma is a game, rules are supposed (and should be) followed? But that in real life this isn't always necessary? What makes game rules so special? My point is that "supposed" is a word that doesn't mean anything. We do whatever we see fit, no matter what some think is "supposed" to be done. You're "supposed" to drink tea/coffee one way and eat your biscuits/whatever another. Who cares? Free thinkers do what they think is right, not what others think for them.

Same thing goes for suicide bombs you're talking about. It can't be compared to suicide bombs in-game. Primarily because nobody gets hurt. That's why you can't compare games to real life in most aspects. It's not right in my opinion to end the lives of innocents. People don't die due to online "bombers".

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So what your saying is that all cheaters are doing the right thing, by obeying what you deem is right? So wheres the right when people want to relax and play a game cheat free, but they can't because of all the cheats?

There's no common truth about what's right or wrong. It all depends on your interests as a person. For some some things are right, for others other things are. You can say that people should celebrate christmas one way, while others celebrate it their way. We play games our way, and you your way. It's all a matter of taste. You've got your rules, we got ours (basically none).

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As of yet, no one has answered my question about why you think its right to wreck someones server that they pay for with their hard earned cash? With all the money you make from you so called "hobbies", why don't you invest it into a server for yourselves?

What do you mean by "wrecking" a server? We don't make no money on TKC. "The play on your own servers" question is covered in the FAQ.


Btw Z. in most countries you can have a gun but you need a license and often a safe box where you put it in your house.
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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #70 on: September 12, 2007, 07:14:38 pm »
It all boils down to the same question, as to why you think its right to use someone else's server as your own workspace?

You can make excuses as to why you think your not associated with these criminals all day long, but the only person your trying to prove a point to is yourselves, no one else.

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What do you mean by "wrecking" a server? We don't make no money on TKC. "The play on your own servers" question is covered in the FAQ.

Excuse me for saying this, but don't you think ive read enough bullshit on this site to last a life time? I take it you have added more FAQ's just after my previous post.
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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #71 on: September 12, 2007, 08:29:09 pm »
awwwwwwwwwww. will you be my pet whiner?

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« Reply #72 on: September 12, 2007, 08:47:37 pm »
 its a computer game and its inciting comments like you raped my girlfriend or blew up my family  ...  compared to rape and terrorism this game is nothing and it's script hack is even less ..only pissing people off because they feel like they wasted their money .. it makes me feel SICK!!! that they use words like rape and terrorism to try and justify that the hack ruins their personal enjoyment of a game on the internet.. UNfuckingBELIEVABLE!!! seriously.
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« Reply #73 on: September 12, 2007, 08:52:38 pm »



Btw Z. in most countries you can have a gun but you need a license and often a safe box where you put it in your house.

you can have a gun in any country .. its only against the law if you get caught with it lol
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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #74 on: September 12, 2007, 10:55:12 pm »
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awwwwwwwwwww. will you be my pet whiner?

How many brain cells did you kill making that post? Obviously not enough  :icon_thumbsup

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its a computer game and its inciting comments like you raped my girlfriend or blew up my family  ...  compared to rape and terrorism this game is nothing and it's script hack is even less ..only pissing people off because they feel like they wasted their money .. it makes me feel SICK!!! that they use words like rape and terrorism to try and justify that the hack ruins their personal enjoyment of a game on the internet.. UNfuckingBELIEVABLE!!! seriously.

Sorry did i hit a nerve? Truth hurts don't it?
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