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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #90 on: September 13, 2007, 06:57:25 am »
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I see a rate of "0".
If one voted you down then another voted you up.

Carry on with your opinions.

Yup   maybe one of your trusty members agrees with what im saying. 

Hey I agree with parts of your arguments..dissagree with others.

Let me give you a "+" vote for your efforts.

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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #91 on: September 13, 2007, 07:11:49 am »
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Hey I agree with parts of your arguments..dissagree with others.

Any chance you can shed some light on the parts you agree on? Seen as your suppose to be the main admin here (I think anyway) All ive had so  far is either excuses or immature replies.

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Let me give you a "+" vote for your efforts.

So kind, I would give you a minus rating but i haven't reached 100 posts yet. It is minus right? As your Teamkillers, it would only make sense lol...  :icon_razz2

Also, I take it theres no chance you can demote me to an Anti-Cheater, instead of Cheater Apprentice?
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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #92 on: September 13, 2007, 04:56:34 pm »
wtf is with this intelectual high ground shit...

its a fucking video game, lock the fucking server, tell bis to fix it, no one is gonna stop what they are doing

fuck...

LMAO Hear Hear!

tell it like it is d3d  :icon_biggrin2

btw O_o i rated u again with a + to restore the karma lmao. Not really sure how it reflects on my maturity but then again who cares...  :icon_teehee

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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #93 on: September 13, 2007, 05:00:15 pm »

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Also, I take it theres no chance you can demote me to an Anti-Cheater, instead of Cheater Apprentice?


Thats a really good idea, Mullah,Z, Wesker any chance this title can be added to properly represent the Anti-cheaters on this forum?  :smile


LOL Medic ur wall hack rocks! Bit annoying when u unload a clip into some1 and they dont die. Aint cuz of godmode though, its because there on the other side of the hill LMAO!

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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #94 on: September 13, 2007, 05:07:28 pm »

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Also, I take it theres no chance you can demote me to an Anti-Cheater, instead of Cheater Apprentice?


Thats a really good idea, Mullah,Z, Wesker any chance this title can be added to properly represent the Anti-cheaters on this forum?  :smile


LOL Medic ur wall hack rocks! Bit annoying when u unload a clip into some1 and they dont die. Aint cuz of godmode though, its because there on the other side of the hill LMAO!

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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #95 on: September 14, 2007, 12:49:51 am »
You misunderstand, you are a very stereotypical "anti cheater". Your posts are flooded with "run to mummy and daddy", "grow up child" etc etc. This just shows your ignorance. You believe that all cheaters are 12 year old spotty freaks that live in their parents basements. Cheaters are just regular people, who are tired of conforming to the majority and want to play a game their way. For someone who talks about respect as much as you do, you show very little. "hide behind a computer day in day out", big assumption there, shows again you do now know what you are talking about. Personally i work 2 jobs, on top of that I'm building a new room on my house, have a wife and kid so spend a fair bit of time out and about doing family stuff. I get enough fresh air thank you :) If I'm hurting the arma community so much with what i do, then its not much of a community.

I can tell you now, not a single thing you have said has "gotten to me". its a GAME, who cares?. I'm pretty sure this goes for most of the people here too. Your continuous posts just remind me of why i like to cheat at games like arma, because of its self righteous, egotistical community. You are no better than anyone here. "I play loads of other games singleplayer or multiplayer, but I'm strong minded enough to see straight through little kiddies (like yourselves), and pretty damn sure you wont ever harm my gaming experience" , if this is true then why are you here? if no "kiddies" are going to ruin your game, why are you here crying (and to be honest, your the only one crying like a little child).

Your staying because our replies make you laugh so much?, i find your responses amusing too. Trying to come off all intellectual and enlightened when if you were, you would know that you are wasting your time, but hell, you are amusing to read. The more we reply makes you believe you have hit a nerve, very delusional, see theres your problem right there. It is a computer game, nothing about the game gets to me, nothing the players can do or say gets to me, yet you believe you are fulfilling some crusade or something and annoying all the cheaters, you fail.

I have owned a number of servers (which i paid for with my own hard earned money, oh noes a cheater that works 2 jobs, he must be lying)  . Dealing with people who use cheats is something that comes with owning a server, theres always someone who uses cheats.  Its a fact of life, you are always going to have a group of people that don't follow the mainstream. Everything you have (and probably will) to say, i have heard 100000 times before. You believe you have  struck a nerve and annoyed us, no, its the other way around. You are the one annoyed, otherwise you wouldn't be here. Above all else, knowing this, makes everything you say irrelevant, but ill feed you a little.

I cheat because it makes me enjoy the pile of crap game that arma is. Sure cheaters can be an annoyance, but they are out there. You either accept that, or go crazy when they fuck up your game. Ive played games on my own servers, 40 hours into a campaign and someone jumps on and takes the server down, nukes it or something equally bad. Its annoying, but it happens. I cheat because i enjoy it, i don't need to justify my actions (except to my wallet). If it harms other peoples  games, that's simply too bad. Selfish, probably, but my enjoyment of a game is more important than other peoples.

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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #96 on: September 14, 2007, 01:06:23 am »
You misunderstand, you are a very stereotypical "anti cheater". Your posts are flooded with "run to mummy and daddy", "grow up child" etc etc. This just shows your ignorance. You believe that all cheaters are 12 year old spotty freaks that live in their parents basements. Cheaters are just regular people, who are tired of conforming to the majority and want to play a game their way. For someone who talks about respect as much as you do, you show very little. "hide behind a computer day in day out", big assumption there, shows again you do now know what you are talking about. Personally i work 2 jobs, on top of that I'm building a new room on my house, have a wife and kid so spend a fair bit of time out and about doing family stuff. I get enough fresh air thank you :) If I'm hurting the arma community so much with what i do, then its not much of a community.

I can tell you now, not a single thing you have said has "gotten to me". its a GAME, who cares?. I'm pretty sure this goes for most of the people here too. Your continuous posts just remind me of why i like to cheat at games like arma, because of its self righteous, egotistical community. You are no better than anyone here. "I play loads of other games singleplayer or multiplayer, but I'm strong minded enough to see straight through little kiddies (like yourselves), and pretty damn sure you wont ever harm my gaming experience" , if this is true then why are you here? if no "kiddies" are going to ruin your game, why are you here crying (and to be honest, your the only one crying like a little child).

Your staying because our replies make you laugh so much?, i find your responses amusing too. Trying to come off all intellectual and enlightened when if you were, you would know that you are wasting your time, but hell, you are amusing to read. The more we reply makes you believe you have hit a nerve, very delusional, see theres your problem right there. It is a computer game, nothing about the game gets to me, nothing the players can do or say gets to me, yet you believe you are fulfilling some crusade or something and annoying all the cheaters, you fail.

I have owned a number of servers (which i paid for with my own hard earned money, oh noes a cheater that works 2 jobs, he must be lying)  . Dealing with people who use cheats is something that comes with owning a server, theres always someone who uses cheats.  Its a fact of life, you are always going to have a group of people that don't follow the mainstream. Everything you have (and probably will) to say, i have heard 100000 times before. You believe you have  struck a nerve and annoyed us, no, its the other way around. You are the one annoyed, otherwise you wouldn't be here. Above all else, knowing this, makes everything you say irrelevant, but ill feed you a little.

I cheat because it makes me enjoy the pile of crap game that arma is. Sure cheaters can be an annoyance, but they are out there. You either accept that, or go crazy when they fuck up your game. Ive played games on my own servers, 40 hours into a campaign and someone jumps on and takes the server down, nukes it or something equally bad. Its annoying, but it happens. I cheat because i enjoy it, i don't need to justify my actions (except to my wallet). If it harms other peoples  games, that's simply too bad. Selfish, probably, but my enjoyment of a game is more important than other peoples.

fkn hell m8 lol long winded , i dont give them the satisfaction i just play around with em i meen ive been hacking n messing with games since 1980 so ive been there seen it done it , had that talk talked wbout that as well , and at the end of the day the only thing that actually does matter is love and money lol .. fuck the anticheaters because they actually think we are different from them .. wierd init lol
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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #97 on: September 14, 2007, 01:25:58 am »
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Any chance you can shed some light on the parts you agree on?
I would not want to influence your writing style.

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Seen as your suppose to be the main admin here (I think anyway) All ive had so  far is either excuses or immature replies.
We don't have a "main admin" but yes I am one of the founding members of TKC...the nice one who does not cheat in contests.
As far as what you have been reading in reply to your posts,perhaps you should go back an reread them.
I saw no excuses...I saw reasons and if replies seem immature to you as a whole then perhaps it is -your- outlook that makes them seem thus.

Oh...you might inform Victor (the non-lawyer) and Walker that November the 5th will be a very special day indeed more in keeping with it's original concept and tell him I said thanks for bringing it up.

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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #98 on: September 14, 2007, 03:48:18 am »

fkn hell m8 lol long winded , i dont give them the satisfaction i just play around with em i meen ive been hacking n messing with games since 1980 so ive been there seen it done it , had that talk talked wbout that as well , and at the end of the day the only thing that actually does matter is love and money lol .. fuck the anticheaters because they actually think we are different from them .. wierd init lol

I get that way when i first wake up :)

I just had my first play around with the SCP, awsome piece of work (especially with your wallhack Mrmedic). I need to find the screenshot button (print screen didnt work for some reason)..Find the admin...lock him, then make players own up to my cheating "i didnt say that..im off ffs"..I have a stitch through laughing so hard.

Most fun ive had with Arma ever, passing the time nicely until heavenly sword arrives in a few hours.

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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #99 on: September 14, 2007, 08:22:05 am »
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You misunderstand

There seems to be a lot misunderstanding going on within this topic.

Imo, you buy a game because you like it, or because of the challenges they present. You can try before you buy in more ways than one. So I don't really understand why people are crying that they have spent all their pocket money on a game that they never intended to play the way it should played in the first place. Then you have the nerve to say its a shit game???

You need patience to play a game, completing the given challenges that lie an wait. Using cheats to overcome these challenges, giving you the advantage to see whats waiting for you round the corner spoils the concept of that given game. How can you sit their and say thats fun? lol... Boring more like.

Using patience and your brain to greatly improve your skill level is more satisfying than using a cheat. It seems to me that you are frustrated with yourselves, knowing that your not good enough to compete with genuine players.

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For someone who talks about respect as much as you do, you show very little.

Ermm... Do I really have to answer that? Well I might aswell... You need to earn respect, since when did you earn yours? Tbh I don't care if any of you don't respect me, as you most probably don't anyway. But im talking about commonsense. It is commonsense that you respect the fact that other people wish to rent/buy their servers, and run them in the way they wish. Does that still not get through to you?? Obviously not.

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"hide behind a computer day in day out", big assumption there, shows again you do now know what you are talking about. Personally i work 2 jobs, on top of that I'm building a new room on my house, have a wife and kid so spend a fair bit of time out and about doing family stuff. I get enough fresh air thank you Smile If I'm hurting the arma community so much with what i do, then its not much of a community.

Bla bla bla, Whens your biography due out?

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I can tell you now, not a single thing you have said has "gotten to me".

Really? So why are you still trying to prove a point?

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Your continuous posts just remind me of why i like to cheat at games like arma, because of its self righteous, egotistical community.

Good for you, give yourself a pat on the back  :icon_thumbsup

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if this is true then why are you here? if no "kiddies" are going to ruin your game, why are you here crying (and to be honest, your the only one crying like a little child).

Well if im honest... I got bored of the BIS forums. When I do some internet surfing, it only takes me a couple minutes to come on here and leave a reply, so why not?

Crying? Me? No never...  :icon_laugh

All im doing is asking a few questions and having a bit of fun in the process.

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Your staying because our replies make you laugh so much?, i find your responses amusing too. Trying to come off all intellectual and enlightened when if you were, you would know that you are wasting your time, but hell, you are amusing to read. The more we reply makes you believe you have hit a nerve, very delusional, see theres your problem right there. It is a computer game, nothing about the game gets to me, nothing the players can do or say gets to me, yet you believe you are fulfilling some crusade or something and annoying all the cheaters, you fail.

Im so sorry if my vocabulary harms your brain. It was never intended that way, its just the way that ive been brought up  :icon_o_o 

What else can I say apart from, my mummy and daddy gave me the attention that I needed to succeed in life, knowing the difference between right and wrong, learning how to become independent, and respecting others for what they have achieved.

So once again, I apologize to anyone that has been offended by my intellectualness.

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I have owned a number of servers (which i paid for with my own hard earned money, oh noes a cheater that works 2 jobs, he must be lying)  . Dealing with people who use cheats is something that comes with owning a server, theres always someone who uses cheats.  Its a fact of life, you are always going to have a group of people that don't follow the mainstream. Everything you have (and probably will) to say, i have heard 100000 times before. You believe you have  struck a nerve and annoyed us, no, its the other way around. You are the one annoyed, otherwise you wouldn't be here. Above all else, knowing this, makes everything you say irrelevant, but ill feed you a little.

I like the words "I have owned a number of servers"

What stopped you from keeping them? Was you not strong minded enough to stop the cheats ruining your gaming experience? That you had to become one yourself?

I know cheating is a fact of life, once again I will elaborate just for you...  :smile "Im not here to stop your actions" So why am I here? Who knows.  :wink2

"You believe you have  struck a nerve and annoyed us, no, its the other way around" No mate, you haven't struck anything, well not that I know of  :icon_thumbsup

"You are the one annoyed, otherwise you wouldn't be here. Above all else, knowing this, makes everything you say irrelevant" You keep telling yourself that, dear boy.  :wink2

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I cheat because it makes me enjoy the pile of crap game that arma is. Sure cheaters can be an annoyance, but they are out there. You either accept that, or go crazy when they fuck up your game. Ive played games on my own servers, 40 hours into a campaign and someone jumps on and takes the server down, nukes it or something equally bad. Its annoying, but it happens. I cheat because i enjoy it, i don't need to justify my actions (except to my wallet). If it harms other peoples  games, that's simply too bad. Selfish, probably, but my enjoyment of a game is more important than other peoples.

Ermm sorry to burst your bubble. Did anyone force you to buy ArmA?

" i don't need to justify my actions (except to my wallet)." Once again, did anyone force you to buy ArmA?

"I cheat because i enjoy it" Good for you, try it without the cheats, play without cheaters, then see how much satisfaction you get out of it.

" If it harms other peoples  games, that's simply too bad. Selfish, probably, but my enjoyment of a game is more important than other peoples." True, very true, if you owned a server before, why not get one again? Just for the TKC, that way you can all enjoy ArmA in a cheat filled environment. Or can you not afford it? Have you wasted all your money on ArmA? Awww...

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fuck the anticheaters because they actually think we are different from them .. wierd init lol

Oh we are the complete opposite to cheats. Thats why we have word "Anti" so we are separated from one an other. Then theirs always this respect issue, that you seem to lack, selfishness and so on....



I have an idea for you lot, maybe its worth a little think  :icon_thumbsup

Yes you make your cheats available to the public, but why not charge the public for the privilege of using them? Then donating the proceeds to charity? Why not get some good from your bad doings? Hopefully you will have a good think about that, as it makes a lot of sense to me  :icon_thumbsup
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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #100 on: September 14, 2007, 08:42:20 am »
Oh btw, sorry ZOldDude, totally forgot about your reply  :smile

After reading your reply, I had a quick check to see whats been said, and if im honest... I can only laugh. Yes I am an Anti-Cheater, but I feel that their wasting their time. Its not up to the community to sort this mess out, its up to the developers/publishers.

But if anything does come of it, then I can only say, you have got what you deserved. But thats very unlikely.

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I saw no excuses...I saw reasons and if replies seem immature to you as a whole then perhaps it is -your- outlook that makes them seem thus.

Of course not, you may say you don't use the cheats, whether or not that is true, its not the point here. You are a part of TKC, so of course your not going to see them as excuses  :wink2
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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #101 on: September 14, 2007, 09:47:12 am »
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you may say you don't use the cheats, whether or not that is true

No I never said I have not used cheats -or- that I do not cheat.
Like most people...we tend to read into things what we 'think' was said or reported.

I said (many times) "I do not cheat in contests".

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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #102 on: September 14, 2007, 07:26:24 pm »
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on the other hand, I'll join your clan and when it comes time to the contest ill cheat and represent the whole clan good and proper :icon_laugh

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« Reply #103 on: September 14, 2007, 09:31:53 pm »
Respect IS earned, yet your telling us to "respect" other people, does putting up a server earn respect? In your book, yes. In mine....not at all. What has the Arma community done to earn my respect, other than a few mission devs (and the TKC / myg0t guys for what they do), not a great deal. So in your own words, they haven't "earned " my respect.  How do you respect a community that believes they can file a lawsuit against people for cheating.

Contrary to popular belief, not all cheaters cheat because they suck, that's just a misguided idea that most anti-cheats believe. Its your security blanket. "id pwn them if they didn't cheat", yeah yeah heard it before.

I bought Arma because of flashpoint. OPF had its share of problems, but no where near as bad as Arma. But again you misunderstand, You make it out that people are unhappy because they "spent all their pocket money" (which again, shows your ignorance, either that or you are obsessed with "kiddies"). You don't buy something and never use it, especially if there is a way to have fun (which is what cheating is to me). You don't seem to grasp this, and i cant be any plainer.

You clearly don't understand this method of cheating either, on arma, i don't cheat to win. Its pointless. I cheat to have fun. Calling artillery on people, car bombs, suicide bombers (which are awesome BTW), see how many people i can get kicked for cheating who are innocent. Its not about winning, its about enjoying the game. I don't cheat because people are better than me (which some people are, its natural, i don't care if I'm defeated in a game), i cheat to have fun whilst i play. Any while on the subject of me, if i wrote a book it would be an AUTO biography, dumbass. Oh and I'm not trying to prove a point, just poke holes in yours so hopefully you will see how little you understand, as you are oblivious to your own stupidity, yes i have a vocabulary too, and id bet my right arm I'm higher educated too, theres your "Kiddie" cheater for you.

To answer some of your questions, why i stopped owning servers :  there are numerous reasons. Clans disband so the server is no longer needed, games die (or get horrible patches that changes everything you love about the game, like DoD 3.1 into DoD source), I moved to a different country, not as much time for gaming to justify a server. Did anyone force me to buy arma, no they certainly did not, you are correct there. But because i made a decision to buy a game that is broken (which i didn't know when i bought the game), does that mean i have to stop using it in a way i find fun?. The stock game is not fun for me, no where near as good as OPF was (which i never cheated in BTW, and my clan finished 2nd in the 2003 European flashpoint league, which is now called the European combat league), but add cheats to arma and you have one hell of a fun time. I bet you use mods, Scope fix, remodeled guns and new sounds, that's all "cheating". Anything that modifies your game and gives an advantage over others is a "cheat".

"True, very true, if you owned a server before, why not get one again? Just for the TKC, that way you can all enjoy ArmA in a cheat filled environment. Or can you not afford it? Have you wasted all your money on ArmA? Awww..."  See, here you go again. did you read my last post? at all? Yes i lied, i am broke, i live in a cardboard box (the one my PC came in) at the bottom of someones garden, all because i bought arma. Why don't YOU buy your own server, password it and never have to deal with cheaters again seeing as you hate them so much. You seem to like to tell others what to do with their money, so YOU buy a server, problem solved, or are you to tight fisted to pay for a server. You are the one with the issue here, I'm not telling you how to play the game, you have the problem. Why should anyone change the way they play just because you have a problem. If you don't like it, do something about it, really theres nothing more that needs to be said other than that   : If you are not happy, do something about it. Find a way to play the game that makes you happy. If that means buying a server and passwords, so be it, but I'm happy with the way i play, so i don't need to change a damn thing.

I have a very busy weekend ahead of me so i probably wont respond anymore, there you go , you have "Won"

Edit: what just happened is a prime example why i dont respect server admins. An admin on FUIAA server (or something like that) just tked me 3 times. First time its because he wanted to pilot the blackhawk (which i had earned the right to fly WITHOUT cheating, sucky EVO), then when i complain he tells me to STFU (big talk cos he had 3 clanners on with him). So the guy waits in spawn and TKs me again for "complaining". So i let it go, took the next Heli and flew in to the warzone. Then im on a hill sniping with him and his 3 clanners nearby, he runs out of ammo. Boom im dead with a pistol shot for my weapon, i complain and he said "tough shit, i needed ammo". He then banned me. Quick ID change later and i decide to destroy his server. Promptly lock him and all his clans keyboards and annihilate the server with arty, carpet bombs, suicide bombs, throwing thim up 3 meters in the air. He relogs and comes back on, so i try out a script ive never used before. "BYE BYE i have to go to the TOILET!!" made me laugh so hard. His server with 34 players currently playing on it is reduced to 5 (all his clan quit too). Respect people just because they put up a server, THIS is the reason i dont. Server admins generally treat people like shit, unfortunately he picked the wrong person, as i had more power on his server than he did. I dont normally destroy a server like this, but this guy deserved it.
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Re: Let BIS have your stuff
« Reply #104 on: September 15, 2007, 12:47:30 am »
Well spoken. However, I see a lot of people use words about servers. Both anticheaters and cheaters. Destroy, Crash, Ruin etc. It's understandable that outsiders (like some on BI) think it's actually what's happening.
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