Thanks for the info Mullah, i'm going to check into that prog you mention and see what i can try to learn about that. Although, I don't really have any idea where to begin working with the hradba, or even what i'm trying to do exactly... lol , gotta start somewhere though, so I'm going to check out that prog and see what I can figure out. Any tips or ideas would be a big help , and I'm sure i'll be back here posting more after I learn a little more about all this. I feel I should try to educate myself a little before I start tossing out a bunch of ignorant questions at you guys. LOL Anyway, I appreciate your help, and honestly i'm a little suprised that no one else noticed the Demo hradba trick. It actually works best if you play through the extracted FA demo though. I've played for long periods of time without a boot on the demo. BUT, only two maps available... and NO i have yet to implement retail maps into the demo and get them to WORK. In should, in theory, but i haven't done it yet. Then again, i wouldn't want that info to get out there, cause I still think people should buy the game if they really wanna play. Here's an idea for you guys though, perhaps one of the more sophisticated admins could make a debugger tutorial for bypassing hradba.... I have a feeling that'd be pretty intense though. ANYWAY, if anybody has some ideas or suggestions on all of this PLEASE post here.