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peppermint and techland
« on: June 05, 2007, 01:32:29 am »
Hi all, sorry for my bad english, i write from italy, where in this day many many usrs have recived a letter from peppermint about an illegal use of p2p plattform.In this letter the Pppermint company demand a compensation (about 300?) for some mp3 illegal download. The company assigned of the surveys is the Logistep, which use a software for the p2p plattform monitoring. On the italian p2p forum it is said that are many cases in Germany  and France. Another software company, the Techland (Call of Juarez), beginning to send more than 5000 letters for some PC game, for example CoJ. Someone know the situation of German and French?
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Re: peppermint and techland
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2007, 02:14:34 am »
I always use an IP block list when running P2P apps.
It will block many companies like Peppermint from ever connecting to your PC.

Some p2p apps have an IP block list built in. But if they don't just use Peergaurdian

My friend got a letter from Universal Pictures a long time ago for downloading The Hulk
I download from P2P 5 times more than he does (with my IP blocklists) and have never seen a letter.

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Re: peppermint and techland
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2007, 03:24:42 am »
as far as i know in france there is (or they're working on) a law that makes the use of P2P programs illegal. in germany however the use of P2P progs in general is legal. it is however illegal to download copyrighted material (of course) and users every now and then get tracked down when downloading songs from BMG's newest artist or whatever. for example when gothic 3 (german game) was released the devs tracked down some users who downloaded the game via P2P software and sent them this (page 1 of like 6) letter where they basically demand a 150? compensation.
one user however went to law and sort of won. he only had to pay the 50? the game would have cost if he bought it in a store. so the legal framework isnt clear.

very interesting german wiki about the logistep company the OP mentioned:

german: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistep
english: google translated (nevermind the delete suggestion, was prolly logistep itself :icon_thumbsup )

my advice for everyone is to never download new stuff, at least not from a public site/tracker. that's where the companys lose the most money and because of that they track down the users. they dont care about 10 year old albums or movies etc.
« Last Edit: June 05, 2007, 05:17:56 am by jazznas »

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Re: peppermint and techland
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2007, 06:03:23 am »
or, with all the time you spent trying to hide yourself you could get something called a "job", this requires you to go to an office or "job"site and do things, in return they give you "money"(stuff your parents have) and then you can go to the "store"(where they sell items) and "purchase"(exchange of money for goods) the song or game of your choice.

the up-side of these actions are
-no stress from the law
-technical help (some games)
-your own legit copy of a game (don't need to fuss for serials all the time)
-a sense of self pride for a job well done.

i hope this helps.
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Re: peppermint and techland
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2007, 08:58:11 am »
you sure have a point but there are two sides of the story. downloading copyrighted material without paying sure is illegal in the most countries. however, what those companys and lawyers do is, to some extend, illegal as well.
so logistep caught user xy downloading a movie, that means they're free to charge him whatever? the point of those mass charges is NOT to have a lawsuit, that's the last thing they want, it's to make you sign a omission explanation (which is a confession basically) and charge an almost random sum of money (around 150?-300?) (out of court of course). all that with almost no proof, and the little proof they have did they get illegally. in germany every ISP is forced by law to delete all connection data (unless needed for accounting reasons). most however save the connection data if requested by, for example logistep. probably to get rid of users that create lot of traffic, aka filesharers.
« Last Edit: June 05, 2007, 09:28:52 am by jazznas »

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Re: peppermint and techland
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2007, 01:45:13 am »
I wonder how they would prove that you sent any data without "permission".

If your using torrents then BOTH sides need to send data....and if a "company" is sending data it kind of shoots down the "your not supposed to do this" concept as the "company" is putting the data on the Net themselfs....thus giveing permission.

Tell them to piss off.

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Re: peppermint and techland
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2015, 09:18:43 pm »

Tell them to piss off.

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