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« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2005, 05:17:37 pm »
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"Windows XP Professional, Build 2600 SP2" ...thats what every browser returns when you surf on a website, i dont understand what ur trying to say.
i have no firewalls or anything so when ur that much of a so called "computer expert" make a screenshot of my desktop and post it somewhere, if u can do that im impressed everything else is just boring and "snow from yesterday".


Hehe, sorry, but I have no need to prove you anything. I was just pointing out, that you are just a script kiddie without some knowledge behind. Or you really think that YOUR browser was browsing some site under my control, that I could read your browser's signature? What about thinking before writing?

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« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2005, 05:25:14 pm »
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I dont think its right to crasht he games of players or the server thats why there is no such option in the supercheatpack, but remember: the alsr guys where the first who introduced the crashing of games of players.


This is interesting...

1. the modified G36 which causes crash of all clients when used was first found on this forum if I'm right. I downloaded it using some link from TKC website.

2. the alsr guys were just crashing these clients, which doesn't respected the server rules, and they did it with the server's admin permission. No one has any rights to access the resources/services of a public server. It's the server admin who decides, to whom which services will be available...

You really see no difference between crashing/kicking the players not respecting the server rules by the server admin and between crashing/kicking the regular players by another player?

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« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2005, 05:46:23 pm »
So let's imagine a game with a button. The button is activated after you score a point and lets you close/crash the game for a few people connected to it. Is it illegal to push that button then? Of course it isn't.
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« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2005, 05:59:45 pm »
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So let's imagine a game with a button. The button is activated after you score a point and lets you close/crash the game for a few people connected to it. Is it illegal to push that button then? Of course it isn't.


Let's imagine an application with a button, which starts the DOS attack on some server. After you push it, the server or some services on it stops responding. Is it illegal to push such button?

In both cases it is NOT illegal to push the button. But it is illegal the action it comes after. And this in both mentioned cases...

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« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2005, 05:56:33 pm »
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This is interesting...


no its bullshit

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1. the modified G36 which causes crash of all clients when used was first found on this forum if I'm right. I downloaded it using some link from TKC website.


I find this BUG. I not use any special cheats, just one little modifiction of Gun. Serwer crash becouse its full of bugs, not my problem.

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2. the alsr guys were just crashing these clients, which doesn't respected the server rules, and they did it with the server's admin permission. No one has any rights to access the resources/services of a public server. It's the server admin who decides, to whom which services will be available...


Why admin can have right to decide who will go back to desctop and who will stay ? If admin can do that I can do the same.

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You really see no difference between crashing/kicking the players not respecting the server rules by the server admin and between crashing/kicking the regular players by another player?
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ofcourse not and noone will take this serious You Ysshole.
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« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2005, 05:59:06 pm »
yes and we all go to jail for crashing Yen poor on-line game.
Give me a brake....... u noob
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« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2005, 06:03:41 pm »
Two different cases. In the first one you play the game as it can be played, you don't attack any computers, you just play. The game closes itself. In your scenario you jam the server's internet connection and do nothing related to the features of the game.
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« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2005, 06:07:54 pm »
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I find this BUG. I not use any special cheats, just one little modifiction of Gun. Serwer crash becouse its full of bugs, not my problem.

Why admin can have right to decide who will go back to desctop and who will stay ? If admin can do that I can do the same.

ofcourse not and noone will take this serious You Ysshole.


1. your problem it will be as long as you know what is it causing and as long you keep using this

2. because its the admin's server you are playing on. Either you will follow its rules or you will not play there, so simple it is. On your own server you can do whatever you want.

Actualy point 2 is the reason, why your IP range is banned on our server. As soon as you will follow the server rules, you may play again...

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« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2005, 06:13:20 pm »
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Two different cases. In the first one you play the game as it can be played, you don't attack any computers, you just play. The game closes itself. In your scenario you jam the server's internet connection and do nothing related to the features of the game.


Not exactly. First the game has no such feature, you added this feature by yourself to disconnect other clients, you are using this feature with the knowledge of what it's causing.

Second, the results are all the same, other people can't use the servers services because of your actions...

I realy don't understand why you await that the server admins will not do anything against you when you are ruining their games on their servers. And you require the rights to play on the servers even when you are obiviously not following their rules. It wasn't so in the communism and it is not so in the democracy your country is trying to achieve (for Sniper).

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« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2005, 06:22:56 pm »
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yes and we all go to jail for crashing Yen poor on-line game.
Give me a brake....... u noob


Are you able to read? Who spoked about going into jail? I just said, that this kind of actions are above the level I would tolerate and that most ISPs are open to help even with "gaming" related issues. Firstly warning their client and if it happens again, cancelling the agreement with their client.

BTW: Why do you want a brake from me? You want to stop something? Who is here a noob?

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« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2005, 06:45:13 pm »
Wow, you guys really impress me with all these new ways to play the game.

Preventing other people from playing!  That is just plain genius.  It must be a lot of fun dwindling the crowd you come to heckle.

This "destructive" form of cheating makes no sense to me at all.

And since you attempt to "revamp" old games with new ways to play, are you just planning ahead for when BF2 is "old", or do you want to make it "old" as fast as possible by ruining it for fair players?

You'll probably have cheats for ArmA ready within the first week of its release.  That makes no sense if you're "revamping" a new game, without even exploring all the possibilities within the game that don't require modding.  You just can't wait to get your rocks off.

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« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2005, 07:20:43 pm »
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2. because its the admin's server you are playing on. Either you will follow its rules or you will not play there, so simple it is. On your own server you can do whatever you want.

Actualy point 2 is the reason, why your IP range is banned on our server. As soon as you will follow the server rules, you may play again...


2) You an prove somehow that Your OFP crash itself or it was crashed by GRU_Sniper bastard ? Or You will be checking logs every time your OFP will crash and call police that Your OFP crash propably becouse GRU do that :D

Yes I see this day when Malboeuf unbanning my IPs. hahaha Yes, in next life maybe
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« Reply #42 on: September 02, 2005, 08:24:03 pm »
We are not crashing your game. We are spawning a "smokesource"-object and then change its position. This causes a CTD if you dont know how to patch your exe file. Everyone can protect himself against the CTD cheat, and of course nobody will tell you how.
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