I was planning on making a longer post, but most of what needs to be said already has. Still, I'll respond to a few of your comment Nane.
so, you think that because YOU bought a game, YOU may do ANYTHING you want with it on ANY server which ISN'T belonging to YOU?
For the most part, yes.
Right. Ok, here we go again. You buy a bike, you put it in my backyard, you say: it's my bike I may do whatever I like with it.. WRONG because you are putting in MY backyard.
You are comparing private real life property to a public online gaming server...poor comparison.
And I am getting quite annoyed at the moment about you guys so called philosophy.
Cry more n00b.
I repeat just once, I am the hoster (payer,builder,maintainer,etc), YOU are the player, and that makes me on MY server boss above you.
Wrong. No one is the "boss above me" on any server in any game, period.
You come on my property, you don't behave, I kick your ass, that's the way it works.
Fine, but I have ways of circumventing your kicks and bans, and I will...and
that too is the way it works.
It's your game...copy..
You payed for the game ...copy..
You want to do whatever you like with the game (like cheating) ...copy..
You want to do whatever you like with the game (like cheating) on a server who isn't your own or where the stuff you do isn't tollerated ...WRONG..
Your opinion...the ability to proclaim it with diehard enthusiasm doesn't make it a fact.
You can ignore this all, as much as you like, but wake up, open your eyes and see the truth
Just because the words are typed through
your keyboard, hardly makes them "truth".
you all make up some nice words and make it look nice, but still you are totally wrong.
Incorrect.
No matter if you are on a site, a server, a game, in somebodies house or club, you obey their rules, otherwise you get 'kicked out'.
Here you are correct, in general you will get kicked out for not obeying rules. But since we have the desire and ability to stay, we will do so for as long as we'd like and are able, despite your feelings on the matter.
You talk so much about people not respecting you, so you take actions... well, the problem is mainly that a few guys here do not respect 'us' as in how we play and what we do on our server, so you get kicked/banned.
Nane, trust us...we understand this simple equation even better than you do. The only problem is that this isn't the whole equation, things aren't always that simple...as previously stated, you admins won't always have the pleasure of getting rid of us.
And that is more valid than your point no matter what view you may have on this.
You couldn't be more wrong.
That's all I got to say, do whatever you like, run naked through your own home, go fingerpaint your own walls, but stay away from mine.
I'll go to any server I please. If it happens to be yours, I would appreciate it if you'd show me the courtesy of rolling out the red carpet and popping me a salute before I start having my fun.
oooh I love my ps'es so here's another one:
Besides the whole: "this is my server, and you have to respect my rules" part, the fact still remains that you guys put the pleasure of one man above any other or group of others. This is the highest point of selfishness and respectless behaviour and I hope you guys are so different in your 'reallives', like this head2000 guy states: I guess in reallife someone whould have already smashed your faces in...
Nearly incoherent, I won't bother with this one.
And hey, it's only pure immaturity that 'because you don't get direct
consequences by acting like this in the 'virtual world' ', you do it.
Ya got me...that's true. But just because you played forum shrink and called me out on it, doesn't mean I'm going to stop.
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Here's the bottom line on the "who makes the rules debate", it depends on who's got the power. Normally the admin has this power, so naturally he makes the rules...doesn't mean for 1 second we're going to follow them, but he can make them.
However, if I have a cheat/hack/trick that can bypass his ability to kick me off his server, then I make the rules. During my RtCW days, I often managed to turn a normal playing server of 32 or even 64 into a teamkill feast on both sides. I did this one night on a popular server when the admin logged on and saw what was going on. He discovered I was behind it and kicked me...but I of course just returned a minute later.
I was very good at tricking players/admins into kicking the wrong person with name smurfing. When I returned, I called a kick vote against the admin and successfully got him kicked from his own server (very funny and satisfying btw). Some players thought he was actually me and kicked him by accident, some just hit "F1" to get the annoying kick vote off their screen asap, and others were hecklers like myself who wanted to heckle the server. We managed to do this 3 times before he stopped trying to kick the hecklers and instead begged us to stop. I told him if he stopped trying to kick us, We'd let
him stay...he reluctantly agreed.
Since he was just about powerless to stop all the hecklers from causing havoc, his rules became null and void. He shortly thereafter left the server in disgust, then we took control. We had teamkill contests to see who could get the
lowest score...hide the documents somewhere on the map and make others hunt you down...teach others how to fly using the Lt.'s air strike trick, and other random acts of craziness. The result? Well there were a few players like yourself Nane who insisted we "play right", but they quickly left after they noticed how futile their efforts were. The majority of players stayed and had a blast...many thanked me for the fun they had when they were about to quit playing the game.
In short, our little venture
prolonged the gaming experience for dozens of players that night alone (and there were others, many others). And
that sort of game rejuvenation for gamers justifies our gameplay style, or at least certain aspects of it.
As far as the less altruistic motivations for why I do what I do?well simply put, I?m a selfish bastard.