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Player Zone / Re: ArmA: Signatures cracked
« on: September 26, 2007, 07:18:00 pm »
Oh and you even try to pretend to be me while playing online, but you fail :icon_teehee
Hint - try getting the nick right first  :icon_razz2

I'm wondering why you add the 'H' at the end? Or is it someone else you're trying to impersonate?  :icon_rolleyes2
Will remember that. Anyway I'm sure it wont matter to the angry guys on the server.
Damn, you got my post before I edited it LOL.
Wasn't sure you would go that low. But oh well, now I know :icon_rolleyes2
What a sad loser.

But still, why the 'H'? You never answer my questions. No point replying to my if you're not gonna answer me! Can you please answer my other questions?

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Player Zone / Re: ArmA: Signatures cracked
« on: September 26, 2007, 06:17:41 pm »
I never said I didn't believe you about being able to do this, I just think that you used a workaround and didn't actually crack the sigs. Are you guys going to keep this to yourself or spread it in an attempt to screw up online play again?

Oh and you even try to pretend to be me while playing online, but you fail :icon_teehee

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Armed Assault / Re: Making money off of you
« on: September 26, 2007, 05:57:23 pm »
I know something about cryptography (I have already used it my job for some comm tools for my clients), and what you write seems strange to me. The addons seem not to be encrypted at all - they are signed. The difference here is for decryption you need a private key, but for signature authentication the public one is enough. You can reverse engineer the "signature" verification as much as you want, and you should find what algorithm is used (most likely some RSA or AES variant?), but unless BS implemented something very wrong (which is possible, jugding by how many bugs they have in their games), you will not get a private key, and you will therefore not get a way to re-sign the addon.

On the same principle all e-mail digital signatures are constructed, or web site authentication. If you are really able to re-sign the modified addon, you could proly apply for a Nobel prize or something  :icon_o_o, because on the fact this is not possible a lot of real-world security is based on this, and nobody was able to beat it so far (which is why most attacks are based on exploiting SW bugs unrelated to the crypto algos, or by exploiting human factor, which is most often the weakest link).

Just my 2 cs.

Thanks. That is why I think they're just using some workaround. Of course they refuse to say anything  :icon_rolleyes2

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Armed Assault / Re: Making money off of you
« on: September 25, 2007, 03:55:21 pm »
Bypassing protection when the TOOLS that make the protection are free to d/l is an easy thing to do and no harder than "encrypted software" that a game is able to read...the tools or the game disk hold all needed information.
So you are saying that the encryption is cracked and you can now sign addons with anyone's signature, using only their public key/existing signitures? That's pretty damn serious if you can. I just got the impression that you couldn't do that from Suma's post and that makes me unsure.

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By the way I was 72 this July.
Had no idea you were that old. Makes it even more surprising that you're here.

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Armed Assault / Re: Making money off of you
« on: September 24, 2007, 11:44:34 pm »
It seems you're also pretty stupid for your age.

Lol, sometimes I wounder how I got through Uni.
:icon_fluut
As if that makes you cool  :icon_rolleyes2

 :icon_razz2

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Armed Assault / Re: Making money off of you
« on: September 24, 2007, 10:20:31 pm »
Childish?
I have only laughed at the silly things you have wrote, that's all.
I wasn't just referring to what you said, but the whole cheating thing. It seems you're also pretty stupid for your age.

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Anyway I'm done with back and forth talking with you.
:icon_laugh
I thought you losers liked attention
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Video is almost done.
I'm so excited, I can't wait to see a video of you joining a server. Probably with gay music playing  :icon_rolleyes2  :icon_razz2

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Armed Assault / Re: Making money off of you
« on: September 24, 2007, 10:09:07 pm »
Lol, now now Matty no need to get upset, it's only a game.  :icon_laugh
I'm not really upset - hell, I've got much more important stuff to deal with right now. I just think it's kinda sad. Instead of making a small mod for ArmA that people could enjoy, I could have made cheats. Without the sig system ArmA has no cheat protection whatsoever. It's easy to make those little scripts that spawn crap, or alter weapons. But I didn't, and I never will make cheats to give me an unfair advantage or ruin the game for others. I know it's just a game, but a game should be fun and not have the experience ruined by assholes.

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You can claim I waste my life on hacking but the truth is it took less than 20mins of looking at the protection & it was broken.
Good for you.

You seem a bit old to act so childish. Man, you're older than me. I've seen worse, but still  :icon_rolleyes2

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Armed Assault / Re: Making money off of you
« on: September 24, 2007, 09:28:42 pm »
Well since you wont answer me I'll just assume that I'm right :smile
Only time will tell.

I predict
1.08 = sigs cracked
1.09 = sigs cracked
1.10 = sigs cracked
1.11 = sigs cracked

No matter how many ArmA updates or security fixes the answer will be the same.
I'm saying that because that's how confident I am. If I'm wrong you can always come back here in the future and say "Haha, Wesker was wrong"  :icon_laugh
Technically it's not the sigs you cracked, but a way around the verification system I bet. And yea, I'm sure you will dedicate you sad little life to make game cheats :icon_razz2
I'm not so sure there will be many, or any, patches after 1.09. It just doesn't seem worth it for BIS. Would be nice, but I don't expect it. That's going to make your little obsession pretty easy.
Now, are these hacks going to be released? And if so, when? This kind of stuff should never be released IMO, except to the devs.
It's sad that someone can be so desperate just to ruin a game.

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Armed Assault / Re: Making money off of you
« on: September 24, 2007, 08:45:46 pm »
I'm sure you are just using some kind of exploit to do this, instead of actually being able to sign addons with other people's signitures.
Regardless of what you may think the video will show modified files running happily on a signed server.
What more is there to discuss?
I just wanted to know how it was done, that's all. If it's just an exploit, then it may not exist for much longer. If you really cracked the sig system (unlikely based on Suma's post), then it would be more serious.
Well since you wont answer me I'll just assume that I'm right :smile

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Armed Assault / Re: Making money off of you
« on: September 24, 2007, 08:22:12 pm »
Lol another pitiful attempt for inside info. You really don't need to know how.
:icon_rolleyes2

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Anyway later I'll demonstrate in a video me joining a BI signed server with maybe some nuke nades & super damage bullets.  :wink2
Yipee  :icon_rolleyes2
As long as some of the more major exploits are solved and we can admin servers properly, I'll be happy  :smile
I'm sure you are just using some kind of exploit to do this, instead of actually being able to sign addons with other people's signitures. I just want to know if I'm right. Or is this really a big secret?

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Armed Assault / Re: Making money off of you
« on: September 24, 2007, 07:36:49 pm »
:icon_rolleyes2
So you don't know any more or don't want to say anymore then?
If you really are able to get addons past signature checks, then it must be by some other way, not by duplicating someone else's signature. Then if that is released, it should be possible for BIS to fix the exploit. Am I getting close?

Or are you just going to keep this all a secret?

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Armed Assault / Re: Making money off of you
« on: September 24, 2007, 05:54:16 pm »
Suma's post: http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?s=bf875bd4eae1fa06f6a88c244460a0ab;act=ST;f=67;t=68468;st=30

 :icon_laugh

ZOldDude, I'm wondering if you are actually telling the truth about cracking the signatures. Or is it done a different way?

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Armed Assault / Re: Making money off of you
« on: September 23, 2007, 11:51:16 pm »
Yeah...he is just acknowledging the fact that -any form of encryption- that a program uses that needs to be read is a waste of time as the program it's self has the information to decrypt it.
Not a complete waste of time, since if it is made well enough then it can take time to crack. That time can still be useful. Although most copy protections for games are a complete waste of money since they get cracked in no time, it's just a failed attempt by publishers to get a few extra sales.

My point was that the Sig tools can now be used to spoof the "Sig key" of any part of the game,mission,map,mod and all cheats could be placed into any of these while "protected servers" accept them as -genuine-.

As the ArmA community is under 1,000 on-line players on a weekend I hope this modded tool set is not made public for a few months.
That's pretty sad IMO. Releasing those sig spoof programs would do some serious damage to ArmA MP.
How would a server then be able to stay cheat-free? And I'm still wondering where exactly you get this info?

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Armed Assault / Re: Making money off of you
« on: September 23, 2007, 03:50:26 pm »
Anyhow back to the Sig tools being used as a way to make cheats "official" Suma said:
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Suma
ArmA Lead Programmer



Group: BI Forum Team
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Joined: June 2001  Posted: Sep. 22 2007,21:13 

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Given no game developer was able to come up with a reliable copy and reverse engineering protection for their own games, I afraid expecting to get this for user content is simply not realistic, and I am convinced it will not become possible until some trusted computing platform (like MS Palladium proposed some time ago) will be widely adopted. As the trusted computing faces a lot of opposition, I think you will have to wait very long for this.

Currently no reliable encryption is possible, because the game needs to be able to decrypt the data, and as long as anyone can reverse engineer the game, anyone can get the decryption key. Hacking any such encryption is so easy it is simply not worth implementing it.

 

So as it is not -worth- trying to -protect- maps/mods/core .exe I wonder why they even bothered to try.
All they have done is provide a way to make cheats undetectable on server with the "Sig Protection System" being used.

That topic wasn't about cheat prevention, Suma wasn't referring to cheats. Read it again  :icon_razz2
Yea I know what you're trying to say though. No perfect way to get rid of cheats. But at least it has the potential to slow them down enough for the rest of us to enjoy the game. If they didn't try to slow cheats down, the situation could be worse (hell, it is already terrible!).

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Armed Assault / Re: Making money off of you
« on: September 22, 2007, 07:00:00 pm »
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I realise you all know who I am, that doesn't bother me.

Doesn't bother me either and I would be the last person to rat you out.
Rat me out? For what?  :icon_razz2
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Myself I would like to fish the area near you.
Starting in July I've doing my work via the internet while I have been traveling California fishing. Last week the salmon started to reach Lake Oroville (highest dam in the USA) at the top of the Feather River.
I got a 23 lb'er....rather small for this type of fish but I am using ultra lite tackle with 4 lb test line.
LOL man whatever. You want to fly all the way here?  :icon_teehee

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