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Hacking and Art => Vietcong 1 & 2 => Topic started by: Rav3n on September 28, 2008, 01:12:47 pm

Title: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: Rav3n on September 28, 2008, 01:12:47 pm
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1700/spaderageim7.png) (http://imageshack.us)

LMFAO!
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: [TKC]cptnhankey on September 28, 2008, 01:43:50 pm
Thats an old pic (*Mr.Hankey*) is my way old name that i used when i started to play vietcong.

And wow i mean you love me that much to have then old photos.

Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: ZOldDude on September 28, 2008, 10:03:05 pm
Nobody uses Detox...it was hacked.
Nodody a few use that other system that kicks you out if your not running it...but most of them had somebody crashing them.
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: Jimmy on September 29, 2008, 01:27:11 am
I'm wondering why you removed (i assume) your own stats?  :smile
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: Berger on October 01, 2008, 04:13:44 pm
I'm wondering why you removed (i assume) your own stats?  :smile

I guess he played with some Clantag  :icon_magician
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: ZOldDude on October 01, 2008, 11:54:04 pm
All fear the Giant Midget!
Those in AU that have played with me know that the server admin all know my IP/ping and will tell anyone that asks to "STFU...he is NOT cheating,I know it for a fact!"
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: Rav3n on October 07, 2008, 02:22:55 am
this pic was passed to be my a friend
he wanted his name removed as hes a "clean" player.

was for a laugh not meant to upset anyone lol

Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: niaboc on October 07, 2008, 04:31:39 am
pretty sure thats why all of you need hacks... come on you know some one had to say it!
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: ZOldDude on October 07, 2008, 07:41:41 am
pretty sure thats why all of you need hacks... come on you know some one had to say it!

I don't need hacks.

BTW do you work for J&J?
Don't answere here send me a PM so it's out of public view.

Z
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: niaboc on October 07, 2008, 07:52:57 am
pretty sure thats why all of you need hacks... come on you know some one had to say it!

I don't need hacks.

BTW do you work for J&J?
Don't answere here send me a PM so it's out of public view.

Z

I don?t know if that?s completely true ZOid. One would think if the TKC members didn?t need the hacks they would make them all publicly available filling in with the freedom to game however they want to philosophy especially now since the anti-cheats forces are non existent not that they really stoped you guys anyways (thankfully you guys don?t  release the hacks publicly that would pretty much destroy public servers (example Counter Strike)) now days it appears the old members have less control on what is released as we currently have kids who couldn?t program to save their lives are crashing Vietcong servers and using VCHOOK 4 ? 5. Bit of a shame really I never had any issues with TKC due to the majority of their senior members had control and only released outdated hacks.

Not that it really matters Vietcong Community is pretty much destroyed pretty much newbies who found the game in the local bargain bin or newbies who have some how gained public access to TKC hacks.

I have PM ZOid but for all else who are interested yes I work at JNJ.

Love Always
Cobain



Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: ZOldDude on October 07, 2008, 08:00:39 am
I bet if you check your server logs you will find that -all- the people crashing AU servers are in fact inside AU (and 1 ass and his boy toy in NZ).
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: niaboc on October 07, 2008, 08:03:21 am
I bet if you check your server logs you will find that -all- the people crashing AU servers are in fact inside AU (and 1 ass and his boy toy in NZ).

Yep, pretty much : )

One thing thou how did they get them cause there is no way they created them! Unless they are a lot smarter then they sound : )
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: hobovampire on October 07, 2008, 08:56:49 am
lol u suck :icon_laugh :icon_laugh :icon_laugh :icon_laugh :icon_laugh :icon_laugh
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: niaboc on October 07, 2008, 09:06:25 am
not as much as you
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: [TKC]cptnhankey on October 07, 2008, 09:07:49 am
Lol Hobo you crack me up so much Ohh Cptn Hankey can you give me some hacks please i wont tell any1 can i please i want that hack ur running now vchook 5 please and even on msn you beg and beg.
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: Baaljato on October 07, 2008, 09:11:52 am
How can u blame the destruction of VC on tkc newbies(I believe u r referin to me),The game is old numbers are declining neway and if u believe i am out to destroy ur precious VC,then u r mistaken.I say for most members here server crashing is never done on purpose.

Hobo is fine as long as you ignore him most times lol
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: niaboc on October 07, 2008, 09:50:18 am
How can u blame the destruction of VC on tkc newbies(I believe u r referin to me),The game is old numbers are declining neway and if u believe i am out to destroy ur precious VC,then u r mistaken.I say for most members here server crashing is never done on purpose.

Hobo is fine as long as you ignore him most times lol

Since the various more malicious hacks have been released and used aka by you and other youngens what was left of the VC community has all but left. i can count around 15 - 20 active people at least 5 of those are hackers.

The real question is why do you hack? In a game which means nothing to you why do you attempt to cause problems, many hacks have been released which allow unskilled people, people who do not wish to actually practise play at an acceptable level. I have no issues with these hacks as often they add a bit of flavour and challenge to the game. My major issue are the hacks which you yourself have been using removing people from the server, server crashing, freezing players. These hacks are in no way acceptable perhaps this is long before your time however I believe TKC had policies to stop people from using and especially releasing said hacks.

Several months ago previous to the latest run of malicious hacks were released the Vietcong Community was actually starting to grow again so I can say quite confidently that you had a hand in stoping people from playing the game thus destroying an aspect of the game. As for your comment about server crashing did you not state inanother topic that you were banning people from a server. Explain the real difference between Banning people from the server & from crashing the server either way the users cannot play on said server.. may as well be crashed at least the users will not have to track down an admin have themselves unbanned etc.
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: Baaljato on October 07, 2008, 10:09:44 am
I didn't perma ban or ip ban them just a short 20hr ban,alright maybe i went a little to far but there was nothin untoward about my actions.The difference between server crashing and banning ppl is a huge difference.I was once a normal member of the VC community in AUS but when u have two clans ruling with an iron fist,VL and SCA it makes the game less enjoyable cause the amount of politics.The admins there where quick smart to ban me even if I mentioned this.Thats why I started to hack and that is my reason also the look on their face is priceless  :icon_biggrin2 .Hackers are VC alot more than 5 hack that r regulars anyway apple's new project should stop all this anyway  :icon_laugh
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: Crossmol on October 07, 2008, 01:28:27 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong: is someone developing a new kind of anti-cheat system for VC?

Every anti-cheat has been bypassed in the past, also on the new games. Game hackers are getting more skilled and learn from the best nowadays. I remember the time that an anti-cheat group made a cheat public so everybody could use it. This works the other way around too. Piss off a developer big time and he will make the hack public (just an example). I know for a fact that there are several cheats only available to a very small group to prevent the majority to use them (including my own 'cheats') so the game will not be populated by 99% 'cheaters'.


As far as the servercrashing goes: TKC will never support it and has never done that in the past. Even we (staff) state that a crashed server is no server at all. No server means no game, with or without some extra features (cheats as you call them).
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: MrMedic on October 07, 2008, 01:43:26 pm
anyway apple's new project should stop all this anyway  :icon_laugh

lets see then

Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: niaboc on October 07, 2008, 03:17:20 pm
alright maybe i went a little to far but there was nothin untoward about my actions.

That just shows how stupid you really are, as for the difference between server crashing and banning people from the server..

Server goes down - people move to another server
Banned from server - move to the next server spend the next 2 days trying to track down an admin to get the ban lifted..

thats a big difference and alot more annoying for everyone to fix then just rebooting a server.
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: niaboc on October 07, 2008, 03:19:37 pm
extra features (cheats as you call them).

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cheat

you might want to read that mate.
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: Baaljato on October 07, 2008, 03:40:21 pm
There is a hell of a difference between crashin the server and bannin ppl Johnny.If u can't get past a VC ban ur a cripple and server crashing is an illegal activity even if not policed.I may be ignorant,stupid definitely not
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: Berger on October 07, 2008, 03:55:43 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong: is someone developing a new kind of anti-cheat system for VC?

Every anti-cheat has been bypassed in the past, also on the new games. Game hackers are getting more skilled and learn from the best nowadays. I remember the time that an anti-cheat group made a cheat public so everybody could use it. This works the other way around too. Piss off a developer big time and he will make the hack public (just an example). I know for a fact that there are several cheats only available to a very small group to prevent the majority to use them (including my own 'cheats') so the game will not be populated by 99% 'cheaters'.


As far as the servercrashing goes: TKC will never support it and has never done that in the past. Even we (staff) state that a crashed server is no server at all. No server means no game, with or without some extra features (cheats as you call them).

I agree with Crossmol,

you have to devide cheat devs and cheat users......Imo you can count the people that are able to crash servers on one hand, maybe two....

And they are able to do it cause the found out how to do it which the normal cheat users will never find out....
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: Crossmol on October 07, 2008, 04:20:11 pm
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cheat

you might want to read that mate.

All examples are based on rl. In videogames however there's no law saying that you can't/may not use extra features. We've had this disscussion(s) before so opinions of all those people are readable for the public. I suggest anyone whois interested in that should use the search function on the forum. You can even reply to these other forumtopics if you like. There's no need to restart it in this topic.
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: MrMedic on October 07, 2008, 05:15:44 pm
All examples are based on rl. In videogames however there's no law saying that you can't/may not use extra features.

i honestly doubt there ever will be a rule to say the opposite m8

it would be too time consuming for the courts to deal with. eg take a look at glider bot.
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: Crossmol on October 07, 2008, 07:04:59 pm
I there's going to be somekind of law for this, what are they going to do? Ban me from going to coart? l0l  :icon_biggrin2
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: niaboc on October 08, 2008, 01:58:51 am
All examples are based on rl. In videogames however there's no law saying that you can't/may not use extra features.
eg take a look at glider bot.

Games have taken to righting up agreements which allow them to 1 take you to court and win within minutes, 2 ban you when ever they want... you mention glider bot you might want to read the WOW LUA EUA more or less court cheating they can take you to court generally thou you wouldn?t have created the cheat so they will just ban you.
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: MrMedic on October 08, 2008, 02:02:31 am
^'writing' second time ffs


mullah change the word filter so if anybody types cobain or cobain backwards it reads

daddy banned me from the internet because i was a naughty wikkle bwoy..

, cobian .. just stop typing and stop making yourself look simple ,the glider will survive no cheat in the history of games has ever been stopped 100% , all blizzard are taking him to court for is publicity you triffid.. and its making the bot more popular and their game known even more in the public eye they both are winning you are not lol ...the bot will eventually go underground and he will pay the court costs through underground money and still live on a caribbean island with your mum :) ( btw the mum joke is optional see if he takes the bait )

edit ..

pic of a triffid

(http://triffids.wuthering-heights.co.uk/images/triffids/triffid0.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: niaboc on October 08, 2008, 03:54:08 am
^'writing' second time ffs


mullah change the word filter so if anybody types cobain or cobain backwards it reads

daddy banned me from the internet because i was a naughty wikkle bwoy..

, cobian .. just stop typing and stop making yourself look simple ,the glider will survive no cheat in the history of games has ever been stopped 100% , all blizzard are taking him to court for is publicity you triffid.. and its making the bot more popular and their game known even more in the public eye they both are winning you are not lol ...the bot will eventually go underground and he will pay the court costs through underground money and still live on a caribbean island with your mum :) ( btw the mum joke is optional see if he takes the bait )

edit ..

pic of a triffid

(http://triffids.wuthering-heights.co.uk/images/triffids/triffid0.jpg)

runescape?, most online flash games. hacks can be stoped : ) the company just has to want to do it enough
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: ZOldDude on October 08, 2008, 07:58:19 am
Too much to read.
Too old and near bedtime.
Too much for Old Mind to take in.


Dude(s),TKC will never host any program in violations of -US Law-.
Other countries can go screw off.

Z
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: niaboc on October 08, 2008, 09:12:57 am
Too much to read.
Too old and near bedtime.
Too much for Old Mind to take in.


Dude(s),TKC will never host any program in violations of -US Law-.
Other countries can go screw off.

Z

You know i'm only here for shits and giggles. i never attacked TKC even when you guys were a force to be rekoned with
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: Subsky on October 08, 2008, 11:55:32 am
runescape?, most online flash games. hacks can be stoped : )

I agree.  Anti-cheating possible; but AC clients well never work because they are fundamentally flawed.

If a majority of the AC is written in user-mode; hackers go ring 0.  Want to even the playing field?  Turn the AC into a system driver; risk portability and loose a large majority of customers.  Still not good enough?  Layering is your friend; just go lower into the OS; modify system objects directly etc etc. 

Gameguard is the perfect example of a catastrophic failure- if the server has a poorly designed cheat detection strategy a rootkit won't save anyone.  Just like the idiots who thought rootkit was the answer to DRM; it simply does not work.

As a game programmer- I know it is possible to prevent most forms of cheating server-side- using the game engine itself.  Mathematics is key here.  Let the client send off whatever packet it wants; and have the server do all the internal validity checking.  Shoot through walls, teleport, superjump, speedhack, noclip style hacks can all be detected this way.  Wallhacking, ESP can be preventing by aggressive serverside occlusion culling code (w.g. don't let the clients know where the other players are unless they really are visible).  Aimbot detection is harder- what set of rules will determine a talented player from a subtle aimbot?  Removing the obvious aimbots is important- they disrupt the game; but what's the harm in letting those subtler aimbots (that display the skill of a talented player) from working?  Everyone can benefit from a more challenging game.

Red dots can't really be prevented; so even the playing field- let everyone use crosshairs if they desire.  What about chams?  Well, if you can't see the player behind the wall anyway; they're not going to turn a regular cheater in a superstar.

These rules are obvious- but game companies outsource the anti-cheat system to 3rd party companies (and pay big money too).  It's a shame.  A near perfect system is possible and it will earn companies big $.
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: MrMedic on October 08, 2008, 05:32:25 pm
that kind of thing has been done on a old game , i cant remember the name of it
i did it eventually , but it was difficult.

btw i noticed you mentioned gameguard , i seen all the babble about how to beat it .. theres a dead simple way , it fell on its arse because it was built on a shit system to start with.
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: ZOldDude on October 09, 2008, 03:19:26 am
EULA?
Those things have never been enforced by court in the USA,every case brought was shot down.

You can NOT force a CONTRACT on a person in order for them to use a product that they have bought and own...after they pay for it.
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: niaboc on October 09, 2008, 06:09:25 am
EULA?
Those things have never been enforced by court in the USA,every case brought was shot down.

You can NOT force a CONTRACT on a person in order for them to use a product that they have bought and own...after they pay for it.

sure you can as generally you return it to the company directly at which point you get a refund... cannot happen with wow due to the fees for playing you wouldnt be refunded those and the EULA changes every patch etc.

: )
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: ZOldDude on October 09, 2008, 07:35:34 am
EULA?
Those things have never been enforced by court in the USA,every case brought was shot down.

You can NOT force a CONTRACT on a person in order for them to use a product that they have bought and own...after they pay for it.

sure you can as generally you return it to the company directly at which point you get a refund... cannot happen with wow due to the fees for playing you wouldnt be refunded those and the EULA changes every patch etc.

: )
No.
Wrong.
Not in my country.

Why would I return it for a refund?
Go back and read what I said,then go look up US Contract Law's.
Title: Re: Is this why Cpt.Hankey needs hacks?
Post by: MrMedic on October 09, 2008, 03:08:02 pm
EULA?
Those things have never been enforced by court in the USA,every case brought was shot down.

You can NOT force a CONTRACT on a person in order for them to use a product that they have bought and own...after they pay for it.

sure you can as generally you return it to the company directly at which point you get a refund... cannot happen with wow due to the fees for playing you wouldnt be refunded those and the EULA changes every patch etc.

: )
No.
Wrong.
Not in my country.

Why would I return it for a refund?
Go back and read what I said,then go look up US Contract Law's.

we have a rule in this country , its the same as yours z , we short hand it to : buy as seen or bought as seen on the reciept , if that is on it .. then it may look good but it may have no working parts inside .. but your still stuck .. because you Bought it as SEEN! .. the only major difference between yours and our laws are one thing .. we have no statute of limitations for a crime .. we can be tried and found not guilty then ten years down the line be retried again with new evidence then banged up for 60 years.. which is a good thing actually because the crime rate in england is not that bad .. and there are almost no shootings and the ones that do commit the shootings are almost NEVER english this is mainly because there is a severe punishment for firearms .. especially concield .. you even have a bullet on you and its a minumum 2 year sentence .. per bullet and on top of that 8-10 years for the weapon if its a replica .. 15 - life if its an active fire arm and life if its loaded and could be actually fired , life no chance of parole if its loaded and is semi or fully automatic.

anyway this is about game eulas ..  eulas will never be inforced unless the company has a bad attitude and wants to be greedy , but if they lose they lose big .. we wont , at best we will get a slap on the wrist and be told to stay away from a pc .

which will never happen as eulas are very difficult to inforce once the product has been purchased and whos going to sit there and read a fucking 20 page eula in a store then sit and sign it to be locked into it for a game before they buy it ... at best the shortest eula would win ..which in turn would have the least rules of the game and not be able to cover everything so there would be loop holes .. its a no win situation for them.. any way lets get back on topic..

cobain no offence ment but you really do type about complete shit just to get a response .. at least think before you post next time please .