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Title: 1TB optical disc
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on March 10, 2008, 02:58:48 pm
Taken from
http://www.rlslog.net/tiny-huge-1-terrabyte-optical-disk/

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It is called the TeraDisk and it is really small, like a ordinary CD/DVD. But it?s really huge in terms of space. 1 TB (1000 GB). How can this be done? The process is easy (or not). All existing optical media record data on semitransparent layers. A regular CD has 1 layer and a Blu-Ray disk has up to 8. The reason nobody can add more layers on a regular CD/DVD/Blu-Ray disk is because when the light passes through these layers it becomes distorted and by the time it reaches the final layers it becomes almost impossible to read/write on the disk.

TeraDisk achieved the 1TB limit by using 200 layers, each storing 5GB of data. So basically the data support stay the same (TeraDisk will be made out of the same plexiglas like material used in other disks) but the write/read laser technology is completely new. They say it?s going to be cheap and it will be available for the public in 2010.

Looks good and sounds promising  :smile
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: MrMedic on March 10, 2008, 03:25:58 pm
this could be a fake m8 , im just wondering why they have porn adverts on the page as well ..

then again i do hope its possibley true as that kind of storage would be lets say 'more' than usefull.
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: MrMedic on March 10, 2008, 03:30:32 pm
btw this board is running incredibly slow again

Page created in 49.423 seconds with 24 queries.

@ mullah you really should start thinking about a upgrading to a professional host as the one you use for this board is impressively terrible.
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on March 10, 2008, 03:40:40 pm
this could be a fake m8 , im just wondering why they have porn adverts on the page as well ..
These are the guys developing it
http://www.mempile.com/Two-photon+optics/

These guys only spreading the news... with some porn ads.
http://www.rlslog.net/tiny-huge-1-terrabyte-optical-disk/
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: ZOldDude on March 10, 2008, 11:37:29 pm
Medic it is probibly the normal UK internet....again.

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Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: Vicious on March 11, 2008, 01:13:06 am
Yeah it's taking about 1.5-2 seconds to load a page for me.

Maybe someone should pause their P0rn torrentz?  :icon_laugh
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: MrMedic on March 11, 2008, 01:40:13 am
Medic it is probibly the normal UK internet....again.

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dunno maybe , but it only happens with this web , nothing on any others , remember m8 ive got a big one lol .. internet connection i meen ...
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: MrMedic on March 11, 2008, 01:41:35 am
Yeah it's taking about 1.5-2 seconds to load a page for me.

Maybe someone should pause their P0rn torrentz?  :icon_laugh

fo shizzle ..dizzle lol
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: ZOldDude on March 11, 2008, 01:44:58 am
Medic it is probibly the normal UK internet....again.

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Page created in 0.167 seconds with 22 queries
dunno maybe , but it only happens with this web , nothing on any others , remember m8 ive got a big one lol .. internet connection i meen ...
When it works it's like chips and beer.
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: Frank P. on March 11, 2008, 09:20:50 am
Taken from
http://www.rlslog.net/tiny-huge-1-terrabyte-optical-disk/

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It is called the TeraDisk and it is really small, like a ordinary CD/DVD. But it?s really huge in terms of space. 1 TB (1000 GB). How can this be done? The process is easy (or not). All existing optical media record data on semitransparent layers. A regular CD has 1 layer and a Blu-Ray disk has up to 8. The reason nobody can add more layers on a regular CD/DVD/Blu-Ray disk is because when the light passes through these layers it becomes distorted and by the time it reaches the final layers it becomes almost impossible to read/write on the disk.

TeraDisk achieved the 1TB limit by using 200 layers, each storing 5GB of data. So basically the data support stay the same (TeraDisk will be made out of the same plexiglas like material used in other disks) but the write/read laser technology is completely new. They say it?s going to be cheap and it will be available for the public in 2010.

Looks good and sounds promising  :smile
Page created in 0.179 seconds with 23 queries. The internet in the UK is just as bad as the weather IMO. Going back on topic, I don't think a 1TB disk is all that good because what are you gonna do when you lose the disk?
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: ZOldDude on March 11, 2008, 11:20:12 am
Lose the disk?
What are you going to do when the HD becomes corrupted?
(Run SpinRight 6.0 and recover it!)

A bigger issue is when the caps in the PSU or MB dry out and die....then you need to rebuild the system.

The good news is the top MB makers are now moving away from electrolytic caps and using solid capacitors....bad news is they are charging more for what every circut maker is going to start doing.
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: Oynky on March 11, 2008, 06:22:15 pm
I suggest everyone gets a external HD instead.
The boyfriend of my sis, works for TV production, he is using a IPOD to store like 20gig of sound and video files. Just one small disk would be handy to carry tho.
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: Vicious on March 12, 2008, 02:03:38 am
I've got 2 500 gb externals and a 160 gb that's USB only. Very nice, fits in pocket too.

Seriously thought,  what good is a 1tb disk besides long-term storage? I guess it would be a great multi-move/TV series disc though. . .
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on March 12, 2008, 03:03:16 am
Seriously thought,  what good is a 1tb disk besides long-term storage? I guess it would be a great multi-move/TV series disc though. . .
Every divx movie you have on your computer all on one disc... getting a hardon talking about it.
Also forget multi DVD hard drive backsups.
The computer world would be a better place with these 'cheaply produced' discs.
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on March 12, 2008, 03:37:51 am
Furthermore imagine game consoles that run on these tera discs...
Bye bye Blu Ray
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: Frank P. on March 12, 2008, 08:52:39 am
Furthermore imagine game consoles that run on these tera discs...
Bye bye Blu Ray
Never thought of that. Wow...
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: hoax-ravenheckler on March 12, 2008, 07:53:21 pm
Lets just see and wait. Maybe it turns out not to be so reliable or not that cheap.
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: Vicious on March 12, 2008, 10:00:56 pm
Lets just see and wait. Maybe it turns out not to be so reliable or not that cheap.

Well looking at the entire human history of technology, eventually something of that size will be both. Just depends on what has to be done to make it feasible.

As for games being run off of Terabyte discs that would be something interesting. I'm surprised PC Game studios arn't getting behind this. I mean with all their whining about piracy, a tereabyte sized disc at least now won't be pirated alot  :icon_laugh

I'm trying to imagine the download time off of mininova for that  :icon_o_o
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: ZOldDude on March 12, 2008, 10:24:34 pm
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a tereabyte sized disc at least now won't be pirated alot
Wanna bet?
I have seen dual layer DVD games that have a shitty "protection" that just -fills- all the blank areas of the disk...when the game it's self is ripped from the "protection" it is less than a single layer DVD.
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: Vicious on March 13, 2008, 01:17:02 am
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a tereabyte sized disc at least now won't be pirated alot
Wanna bet?
I have seen dual layer DVD games that have a shitty "protection" that just -fills- all the blank areas of the disk...when the game it's self is ripped from the "protection" it is less than a single layer DVD.

I'm not talking about the "protection" that companies come up with, it's simply a matter of size and time. Unless there's a massive boost in writing speed it would take hours to write a terabite sized disc. Downloading a copy wouldn't exactly take 10 minutes like CDs take. Realistically years down the road it will be where we are today in CD speeds, but it'll take a few years for the hardware to catch up
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: ZOldDude on March 13, 2008, 03:04:23 am
Well I was just thinking of the "protection" part of it...with most of the disk filled with nonsense data.

Some game I d/l and checked out in the past 4 weeks took up a full dual layer DVD for D1 and almost all of a regular DVD for D2...point is that it is a -large- game and I d/l it overnight.

I personally don't know anyone with a blu-ray as it is and they still cost a mint...the blank disks must not be cheap either.

By the time Nero supports this newer 1TB disk I will have died of old age.
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: Vicious on March 13, 2008, 05:47:03 am
That's just idiotic for a company to do that to "protect" their game. It's a waste of their time and money, as well as probably slowing down our drive when it reads the disc.
And you downloaded a 2-dvd game overnight? What kind of bandwidth is available to you :icon_o_o?
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: Frank P. on March 13, 2008, 10:28:37 am
By the time Nero supports this newer 1TB disk I will have died of old age.
Ah, so we don't have to wait that long. Joking Z, you'll live to be at least 200. Hopefully. Otherwise I have no American correspondent (other than Symantic). In a video shop close to my house, there's a small section of Blu-ray DVD's. What's interesting is that the DVD's there aren't all newly released... Some being over a decade old. But other than that one video shop, the only time I've heard about Blu-ray discs was either on here or on another forum.
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on March 13, 2008, 01:02:58 pm
Seriously guys, I don't think the disc protection software is anymore than 1-2 MB... If it was much bigger than that we'd have to wait long time for the drive to read as well as process it all (since disc protection mechanisms often use encryption).

This console idea is way ahead of it's time anyway because how big a game can be will always be subject to the size of the consoles memory, GPU & CPU speed/size. Unless of course they are just cramming loads of HD movie cut scenes onto the thing.
The average PS3 game only takes up 6GB of the 25GB disc.
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: Oynky on March 13, 2008, 06:52:22 pm
Blue Ray was always a fail imo.
Go to a store, look 1 movie thats new: 1 Normal one, 1 with bonus, 1 Full HD, and a Blue Ray one.   :heckler1
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: MrMedic on March 13, 2008, 09:27:21 pm
Seriously guys, I don't think the disc protection software is anymore than 1-2 MB... If it was much bigger than that we'd have to wait long time for the drive to read as well as process it all (since disc protection mechanisms often use encryption).

This console idea is way ahead of it's time anyway because how big a game can be will always be subject to the size of the consoles memory, GPU & CPU speed/size. Unless of course they are just cramming loads of HD movie cut scenes onto the thing.
The average PS3 game only takes up 6GB of the 25GB disc.

you can 'load on the fly' remember swiv for the c64 ? , it had a 1 mb game map with enemies equaling 2 mb and the whole computer had a maximum memory of 64 k with os stripping , lda 00 , sta 01 .. but anyway , it has not much to do with the size of memory , never did so long as the os can load quick enough which most consoles can load 34 megs of data from the dvds in 1 milisecond strips , so you would never notice it reading unless you looked at the light , this new 1 tb storage will open up virtual reality in real time most likely , all they need to do is develope the suit and vision shades .
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: Vicious on March 13, 2008, 09:42:16 pm
Blue Ray was always a fail imo.
Go to a store, look 1 movie thats new: 1 Normal one, 1 with bonus, 1 Full HD, and a Blue Ray one.   :heckler1

I'm guessing you're not from the US (Correct me if i'm wrong) but Blu-Ray has all but won, there are whole racks of them for sale here. HD companies have thrown in the towel, I think there's only one company that still supports it (Once again someone correct me if i'm wrong), so essentially Blu-Ray has the market for Hi-Def movies. . .
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: Frank P. on March 14, 2008, 05:30:04 am
Blue Ray was always a fail imo.
Go to a store, look 1 movie thats new: 1 Normal one, 1 with bonus, 1 Full HD, and a Blue Ray one.   :heckler1

I'm guessing you're not from the US (Correct me if i'm wrong) but Blu-Ray has all but won, there are whole racks of them for sale here. HD companies have thrown in the towel, I think there's only one company that still supports it (Once again someone correct me if i'm wrong), so essentially Blu-Ray has the market for Hi-Def movies. . .
Ahh, now you see it's totally the opposite here in Australia. Blu-ray is just starting to emerge (as per my previous post) and HD is still the in-thing. My father recently bought an 83cm LCD tv. Noticing blur, only a week after buying it he bought a Set top box (I think thats what they are called, correct me if im wrong). It greatly improved quality and it makes watching NASCAR's SO much better (especially with the surround sound). Well with the box we got extra channel, HD channels. They feature some good movies and these channels are still and "innovation" here in Aust. I know it sounds like we are behind in the world but I like to believe that we are only second, behind (yes you guessed it) America.
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: ZOldDude on March 14, 2008, 11:42:26 am
Seriously guys, I don't think the disc protection software is anymore than 1-2 MB...
Well believe it or not a -really crappy- "protection system" is out and being used (not often) that does in fact simply FILL a disks blank space with total CRAP and does -nothing- but check to see if the "crap" is there.
No encryption...no double checks. No "crap" between sectors = no running the game.
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on March 14, 2008, 02:31:05 pm
Well believe it or not a -really crappy- "protection system" is out and being used (not often) that does in fact simply FILL a disks blank space with total CRAP and does -nothing- but check to see if the "crap" is there.
No encryption...no double checks. No "crap" between sectors = no running the game.

Ah true, but the most popular protections like Safedisc and Securom don't use dummy files.
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: Vicious on March 14, 2008, 09:13:45 pm
Ahh, now you see it's totally the opposite here in Australia. Blu-ray is just starting to emerge (as per my previous post) and HD is still the in-thing. My father recently bought an 83cm LCD tv. Noticing blur, only a week after buying it he bought a Set top box (I think thats what they are called, correct me if im wrong). It greatly improved quality and it makes watching NASCAR's SO much better (especially with the surround sound). Well with the box we got extra channel, HD channels. They feature some good movies and these channels are still and "innovation" here in Aust. I know it sounds like we are behind in the world but I like to believe that we are only second, behind (yes you guessed it) America.

Well there's two different things here. I was talking about High Density-DVDs, which have all but lost the HD VS Blu-Ray war for the next DVD format. Hi-Def TV channels are taking off here, and it sounds like in Australia too.
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: Frank P. on March 15, 2008, 06:20:39 am
Ahh, now you see it's totally the opposite here in Australia. Blu-ray is just starting to emerge (as per my previous post) and HD is still the in-thing. My father recently bought an 83cm LCD tv. Noticing blur, only a week after buying it he bought a Set top box (I think thats what they are called, correct me if im wrong). It greatly improved quality and it makes watching NASCAR's SO much better (especially with the surround sound). Well with the box we got extra channel, HD channels. They feature some good movies and these channels are still and "innovation" here in Aust. I know it sounds like we are behind in the world but I like to believe that we are only second, behind (yes you guessed it) America.

Well there's two different things here. I was talking about High Density-DVDs, which have all but lost the HD VS Blu-Ray war for the next DVD format. Hi-Def TV channels are taking off here, and it sounds like in Australia too.
Ahh, conflict of abbreviations. Speaking of Blu-ray, they have actually surfaced here upon closer inspection. I had a look in a couple of catalog's (not looking for anything specifically) and I found Blu-ray players. I think they won't be that popular for another half decade here anyway as the prices are WAY too high. Bout 1 grand for a Blu-ray player. Only rich people will buy it (rich people here HAVE to have everything, no matter how useless, if it's the in-thing its a must-have). But, the conservative shoppers will wait a couple months (possibly even years) for the price to come down and for more Blu-ray dvd's to come out then they might buy it.
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: ZOldDude on March 15, 2008, 06:48:49 am
When the Blu-Ray ROMS/burner sells for $24 USD at Fry's I might buy one...untill then I have no use for them.
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: MrCamo on September 21, 2015, 08:10:12 pm
I got 4 terabytes fk off.
Title: Re: 1TB optical disc
Post by: mReURO on September 21, 2015, 08:30:00 pm
lol 7 years old post :P