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Hacking and Art => Armed Assault 3 => Armed Assault => Topic started by: ZOldDude on November 02, 2007, 07:48:16 pm

Title: Attention Server Owners
Post by: ZOldDude on November 02, 2007, 07:48:16 pm
On November 5th an updated SCP will be made public.

If you are a server owner and your server has been having issues with mass bombings that may be eating up all your CPU cycles...THIS IS YOUR CHANCE to do something about it.

Supply YOUR edited version of the bombing script before November 5th and it will become the new default script.You have to write it or get a scripter to do it for you...but TKC is willing to use a working script if you provide it.

The currant bombing script can be togled as needed....your "fixed" script should check to see if a time period has passed before the script can be used again.
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: Nutty101 on November 02, 2007, 09:35:22 pm
It's a nice offer but people will just change it back.
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: ZOldDude on November 02, 2007, 10:19:25 pm
It's a nice offer but people will just change it back.

They may be able to do that with the currant SCP...but how do you know if one of the changes do not allow that to happen?

If you are a server owner or wish to help one/all of them then start writing a script A.S.A.P....the next chance won't come until/after Xmas if at all.

I have been in contact with two game server resellers and have managed to have the lead programmer for the SCP agree to do this.
Now is the time to act swiftly...time marches on!
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: Doolittle on November 02, 2007, 10:35:12 pm
Sigh. Get ready for another day of server crashing thanks to TKC. That's all they're known for now.
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: ZOldDude on November 02, 2007, 10:47:23 pm
Sigh. Get ready for another day of server crashing thanks to TKC. That's all they're known for now.

Wrong...and an outright falsehood on your part.

I take it that just because your efforts to stop the SCP have been bypassed that your just too pissed off to bother contributing a script that might be of benefit to owners/resellers.
Shame on you.
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: Nutty101 on November 02, 2007, 10:52:30 pm
It's a nice offer but people will just change it back.

They may be able to do that with the currant SCP...but how do you know if one of the changes do not allow that to happen?

If you are a server owner or wish to help one/all of them then start writing a script A.S.A.P....the next chance won't come until/after Xmas if at all.

I have been in contact with two game server resellers and have managed to have the lead programmer for the SCP agree to do this.
Now is the time to act swiftly...time marches on!

If that has happened then all the better. I was hoping to get my stuff out there by the 5th; but due to a complete changeover of my computer and quite a few personal matters I have not been able to it done.
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: Oynky on November 03, 2007, 12:48:08 am
I stopped my ROSE ONLINE server.
After about a year players didnt apreciate it anymore, and got less donations.

I am bizy planning on setting up a WORLD OF WARCRAFT server.
If that will be succes full, ill donate to TKC.
Ill keep u updated when its running, i hope u will be able to vote for it :)
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: Doolittle on November 03, 2007, 02:35:49 am
Sigh. Get ready for another day of server crashing thanks to TKC. That's all they're known for now.

Wrong...and an outright falsehood on your part.

I take it that just because your efforts to stop the SCP have been bypassed that your just too pissed off to bother contributing a script that might be of benefit to owners/resellers.
Shame on you.
Um.. A) How's it a falsehood? You've had server operators come on here saying your program crashes them. Oh, you mean the "all they're known for"? Well people sure don't think giddy thoughts and warm fuzzy rainbows when they hear TKC.
B) First you say I made no program, that it's phantomware. Then you say it's bypassed. Why bypass a phantom? And if it's bypassed then why release a new version?
C) Why would I want to contribute a script to you that would depreciate the value of my product? I already mentioned all the money I'm making off of you guys.
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: M. O. on November 03, 2007, 03:01:38 am
We don't support server crashes. But we're not going to do anything to stop them. It's not our job.
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: Doolittle on November 03, 2007, 04:58:59 am
So, kinda like the analogy of a truck pulling into a playground and unloading firecrackers and guns. Okay, TKC is not known for crashing servers. Let's upgrade that to: TKC is known for empowering idiots to crash servers.
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: ZOldDude on November 03, 2007, 05:24:19 am
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Let's upgrade that to: TKC is known for empowering idiots to crash servers.

TKC has never released a program meant to crash servers...and I am tired of hearing falsehood's on the subject,more so from people that should know better.

If you want to help then do so.
If you want to stand around with your thumb up your ass then do that.
Whatever makes you happy.

In the meantime the clock is ticking and it was not easy to get the SCP people to agree to do this.
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: Doolittle on November 03, 2007, 06:20:22 am
Well your program is a "game wrecking" program. The only script I'll write for you is something to block it.

I don't want to help. I have a thumb... and I use it to press the spacebar as I write programs to stop you guys. And that doesn't just make me happy, it makes the community happy.

Please count down the clock and release and get this over with.

Doolittle

P.S. Even though you never meant to release a program meant to crash servers... now you know that people are using it to crash servers. And yet you still continue to work on it? Leave out the mass zombies and bombs and any other mega-object creating script if you are serious about this small tiny conviction you have.
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: M. O. on November 03, 2007, 06:40:42 am
"Game wrecking" from your point of view. From another it's pure improvement. It's an opinion, and no real argument if you want to convince anybody.

Sure people might have used the SCP, ArmA, Windows, their computer, their hands to crash servers. But it doesn't mean we're cutting any hands, destroying computers, adding limits to the OS, improving code for ArmA or changing the SCP.

People are free to do whatever they want. But we neither support illegal actions nor server crashes. What other people do is up to them. We're no nannys.

Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: ZOldDude on November 03, 2007, 07:43:03 am
Well your program is a "game wrecking" program. The only script I'll write for you is something to block it.

I don't want to help. I have a thumb... and I use it to press the spacebar as I write programs to stop you guys. And that doesn't just make me happy, it makes the community happy.

Please count down the clock and release and get this over with.

Doolittle

P.S. Even though you never meant to release a program meant to crash servers... now you know that people are using it to crash servers. And yet you still continue to work on it? Leave out the mass zombies and bombs and any other mega-object creating script if you are serious about this small tiny conviction you have.

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The only script I'll write for you is something to block it.
So far everyone on both sides knows that you have failed to do so.

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I don't want to help. I have a thumb...
If you decide you would rather sit around with your thumb up your ass then PLEASE don't go onto BI/TKC or any other fourm and CLAIM to be helping people.
Your now forever known to not just be a failure but a selfish person that only wants to "help" if it might earn them money.
IE:
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Why would I want to contribute a script to you that would depreciate the value of my product? I already mentioned all the money I'm making off of you guys

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Please count down the clock and release and get this over with.
It will be over when fools who think they can create "the perfect anti-cheat" learn that an hour after release they are defeated.
This happens with ALL games and ALL anti-cheat systems.

Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: Doolittle on November 03, 2007, 07:46:23 am
Okay, I will time myself next time and let you know if it takes more than an hour.
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: ZOldDude on November 03, 2007, 07:56:40 am
Okay, I will time myself next time and let you know if it takes more than an hour.
No need...it is a known fact that that in less than an hour all AC systems have been broken,for all games.

Now if you do not intend to HELP with a issue that can benefit server owners/resellers then PLEASE do not pollute this thread further.
Another way of saying the same thing is "shit or get off the pot".

This thread is for those that would like to help with an issue.
TKC is willing...if your not then be silent.
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: fartface on November 03, 2007, 08:06:01 pm
God this is such a fucked up thread lol.  Your asking admins to help build a better scp that doesnt chrash a server but allows game destroying scripts?  You lot are a bunch of fucked up tossers hahaha, you need help, seek it you twats!
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: Nutty101 on November 03, 2007, 09:28:36 pm
God this is such a fucked up thread lol.  Your asking admins to help build a better scp that doesnt chrash a server but allows game destroying scripts?  You lot are a bunch of fucked up tossers hahaha, you need help, seek it you twats!

ROFL! Thats the idea i guess.
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: strykir on November 03, 2007, 11:19:08 pm
Since nobody here has submitted a script, here's the new script you guys can use...
Bomb.sqs:
Code: [Select]
hint "boom"
exit
Since it's the only submission, I think you should use it :icon_razz2

But seriously, if you really wanted to fix your script you can do it yourself. You guys made a crappy script, it's not complicated to sort it out.
No server admin that hates TKC will write a script for TKC :icon_rolleyes2
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: ZOldDude on November 04, 2007, 03:29:42 am
Well I suppose they can just live with what happens then...is that what your trying to say?
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: Escobar_RN on November 04, 2007, 07:03:39 am
i was one of the server resellers that had input on this, i'll be honest i'm not bothered about a lot of the servers out there, they suck, celery's pentium D's, shitty old xeons etc etc 90% of the servers out there can't handle the CPU/RAM overheads of the spamming of LGB's, the service grinds to a halt and the server crashes.

not because TKC intentionally designed a script to do that, but because BIS open scripting allows it to be done and the hardware can't handle it.

after a conversation with ZoldDude i suggested that if there was a time limit between uses it would allow those servers of a lesser spec to at least have a chance to deal with the script.

this offer has been made public, and if i could script for toffee i'd be working on it, not for my servers particularly, but for the good of the ArmA community.

if u can't see that this is a good idea and we should take up this offer then we are allready lost.

can't be more than an hours work to add some "count 300" code into somewhere and disable its repeated use

not for me obviuosly as i'd have to learn to script in that hour as well, but there are some hardcore coders out there that could do this i'm sure

i think its worth a shot

Esco
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: ZOldDude on November 04, 2007, 09:15:54 am
Voted 1+ karma for being the only person thus far that gives a shit about the servers...besides myself.

It's just sad that those who have done all the smack talking really don't care what happens to the ArmA community when it come down to the bottom line.

No matter what the outcome is in a bit over the next 24 hours it won't effect either of us...and the rest can live with the outcome of their willfull inaction's.

I notice that not a ONE of them bothered to inform anyone on the BI forums of this wonderfull offer.
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: Doolittle on November 04, 2007, 10:55:54 am
You guys are mental. And -1 karma for Escobar for siding with the enemy. There is no "good idea" here... just one good analogy about the stuff coming from this place, something about a pot...
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: fartface on November 04, 2007, 04:43:52 pm
As for reasons BI have coded a game that is script friendly the reasons were for it to be used for good reasons within the modding community, you all know if you put too much strain on a processor it will chrash a system so just dont be plebs and produce scripts that strain systems. Duh!  I really wish i could meet up with you guys in beat it into you!  Pointless trying to point you in the right directions
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: strykir on November 04, 2007, 06:01:46 pm
Escobar, what the hell? Are you really that stupid?

So you just want a script that screws up the game without crashing the server? It still ruins the game, so it doesn't do much good.
If the server is getting ruined with cheats and people have their keyboards locked - it may as well crash.

Maybe TKC should have stuck to TK'ing and cheating, instead of going for game destruction.

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It's just sad that those who have done all the smack talking really don't care what happens to the ArmA community when it come down to the bottom line.
This doesn't help the ArmA community. All TKC wants is to destroy it anyway. Otherwise there would be no SCP with an installer that tries to keep it undetected.

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I notice that not a ONE of them bothered to inform anyone on the BI forums of this wonderfull offer.
Because Escobar seems to be the only one here who doesn't realise that this is just an attempt at a joke from TKC.

So basically: Fuck you TKC, including you grampa zoldude. If you don't like what I'm saying, then just ban me.
Oh yea, you don't ban people because you think it makes you better than the BIS forums, you prefer to edit posts and use post moderation to control what people post. Fascist bastards :icon_laugh
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: Nutty101 on November 04, 2007, 06:32:15 pm
It will be over when fools who think they can create "the perfect anti-cheat" learn that an hour after release they are defeated.
This happens with ALL games and ALL anti-cheat systems.

That is not really true. There are systems out there that are quite passive in just detecting the cheaters and knocking them off. In the case of the SCP it really can be defeated quite easy in the detection area; and not just the SCP itself. 

   The cheats you are talking about are wall hacks and other items that use memory along with injection. That is a bit more difficult but there has been quite a bit of progress made in stopping it server side. with the advent of more powerful computers and faster internet connections we are getting to where the wall hacks will not be handy anyway as the servers will soon stop sending info on units you cannot see. hit detection is also starting to get processed on the server's and not clients. Thus removing the sniper knife or other crap. That leaves us with aim bots and some other items. Dunno where the progress is with that one.

Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: ZOldDude on November 04, 2007, 09:28:34 pm
Less than 15 hours to go local server time. :icon_pirat
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: Doolittle on November 04, 2007, 09:38:51 pm
Wait, if this is to defeat my DACS, then why is it fifteen hours? I thought it took you guys less than an hour to defeat it...??  :icon_rolleyes2
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: Escobar_RN on November 05, 2007, 02:50:40 am
fine don't bother to add a time delay, lets all sit back and watch servers crash.

siding with the enemy, yes i'm a traitor, i have actually bothered to suggest ways in which the SCP can be altered to stop servers crashing, best hang draw and quarter me.

i don't give a shit what u think about me, i know i'm trying to do something, whether u see it this way or not is up to you.

its not like its gonna be my servers that suffer from this anyway, sit back and relax, let other people do the work, and when it fails who will u cry too???

come back on here, whining about cheats and servers crashing and doing nothing to stop it.
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: fartface on November 05, 2007, 03:26:32 am
Id rather a server chrash to be honest then have these muppets running around ruining a match and them laughing at how clever they think they are.  Cant you lil haxor boys move onto to crysis now that its out in demo form, its more your type of game with aimless shooting and running at stupid speeds, dont even need to engage your lil brains  :icon_laugh
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: ZOldDude on November 05, 2007, 06:02:24 am
fine don't bother to add a time delay, lets all sit back and watch servers crash.

siding with the enemy, yes i'm a traitor, i have actually bothered to suggest ways in which the SCP can be altered to stop servers crashing, best hang draw and quarter me.

i don't give a shit what u think about me, i know i'm trying to do something, whether u see it this way or not is up to you.

its not like its gonna be my servers that suffer from this anyway, sit back and relax, let other people do the work, and when it fails who will u cry too???

come back on here, whining about cheats and servers crashing and doing nothing to stop it.

No point in argueing with them...they really only care about themselfs and nobody else in the first place.
Like you say...it won't effect the servers you guys rent out!

I also offered to test Doolittles "phantomware" and never one time was told a single server it was running on.
He could of had real talent go and test and he could have then debuged.

This BI Supporter tells the truth as he really sees it here:
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Id rather a server chrash to be honest


Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: strykir on November 05, 2007, 01:56:19 pm
Why should the server owners have to fix a problem caused by TKC? This really just seems like a joke. Adding a limit could easily be done by the SCP developers.

Or maybe they don't know how to script because they just steal other people's work.
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: strykir on November 05, 2007, 02:46:30 pm
Escobar, what the hell? Are you really that stupid?

So you just want a script that screws up the game without crashing the server? It still ruins the game, so it doesn't do much good.
If the server is getting ruined with cheats and people have their keyboards locked - it may as well crash.

Maybe TKC should have stuck to TK'ing and cheating, instead of going for game destruction.

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It's just sad that those who have done all the smack talking really don't care what happens to the ArmA community when it come down to the bottom line.
This doesn't help the ArmA community. All TKC wants is to destroy it anyway. Otherwise there would be no SCP with an installer that tries to keep it undetected.

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I notice that not a ONE of them bothered to inform anyone on the BI forums of this wonderfull offer.
Because Escobar seems to be the only one here who doesn't realise that this is just an attempt at a joke from TKC.

So basically: Fuck you TKC. If you don't like what I'm saying, then just ban me.
Oh yea, you don't ban people because you think it makes you better than the BIS forums, you prefer to edit posts and use post moderation to control what people post. Fascist bastards :icon_laugh
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: Escobar_RN on November 05, 2007, 05:20:59 pm
why repost your entire post?

whats the fucking point in that?

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Why should the server owners have to fix a problem caused by TKC?

they don't, they can lock their servers, use verify sigs and lock out just as many players as if they'd passworded their servers, make some sort of player database and tie it in with packet sniffing software, pay someone else to do this, use IP tracing software to track the IPs used by cheats and IP ban (range ban) the offenders, all sorts of options are open for server owners.

but maybe spending 10 minutes talking to the guys that make the cheats, would have some of the worst elements of those cheats removed b4 public release, therefore meaning that only those in the DEV group ( a limited number) have the full range of server killing power availble (not intentional i know its BIS shit coding), as oposed to the any halfwit that happens across the DL link being able to have the full SCP and rain LGB's without limit.

for want of a nail...........the war was lost

Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: ZOldDude on November 05, 2007, 08:24:20 pm
Well they all had a chance and decided to bitch/moan/complain rather then act.

It is now the 5th even in the mid Pacific and this offer and thread is closed.

Setting this as a STICKY so others from BI can see just how much their leaders care about them...and the ONE they should rent servers from.

Idiot fanboy programmers: 0
TKC: 1
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: ZOldDude on November 05, 2007, 09:23:06 pm
New cheats both scripts and memory will be released in a few hours.
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: ZOldDude on November 25, 2007, 08:30:42 am
@ fartface:
- 1 karma for being a selfish asshole.

@ strykir:
-1 karma for me remembering you called -me- a fascist.
Punk.
Title: Re: Attention Server Owners
Post by: ZOldDude on November 22, 2009, 11:58:39 pm
What wonderful memories this brings up.  :icon_razz2