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Title: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: HDMI Man on October 08, 2007, 01:27:43 pm
They all seem to keep crashing its such a pain in the ass
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: M. O. on October 08, 2007, 02:42:17 pm
Buggy scripts (esp the new anticheat ones, some mods like XAM) and bad error handling in the software.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Nutty101 on October 09, 2007, 12:34:58 am
Also seems to be quite a few people going to the unix server beta. Seem to be issues there.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: [TKC]Anothercheater on October 09, 2007, 02:16:03 am
oooooh they got a linux server released??
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: ZOldDude on October 09, 2007, 04:25:28 am
Also seems to be quite a few people going to the unix server beta. Seem to be issues there.

Beta...hehehe.
Lets wait and see how long it takes them to get that debugged to revision 1.0 

I wonder what it is the Dev's drink over there...and if they want to take on a few new apprentices who are willing to work for free?
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Doolittle on October 09, 2007, 05:06:24 am
Since when did you guys ever do anything constructive and beneficial to human society??

Also, we're not Anti-Cheat, we're Pro-Game and you're Anti-Game.

Just like Pro-Lifers don't want to be called Anti-Choice and Pro-Choicers don't want to be called Anti-Life or Pro-Death.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: ZOldDude on October 09, 2007, 05:51:42 am
Since when did you guys ever do anything constructive and beneficial to human society??

Also, we're not Anti-Cheat, we're Pro-Game and you're Anti-Game.

Just like Pro-Lifers don't want to be called Anti-Choice and Pro-Choicers don't want to be called Anti-Life or Pro-Death.



'You guys" as in -me-?
Hahaha.....you really don't know me that well I can see.

Don't worry about it and/or lose any sleep over it but the best and largest server resellers AND all the cheaters know me well enough....and they all love me.
I am pro-freedom by the way.

"constructive and beneficial to human society"
That is what TKC is all about.
Freedom is the most beneficial thing in the world outside of food and water.

Some people have also called me Zorro.  :wink2
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: ZOldDude on October 09, 2007, 06:04:38 am
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Also, we're not Anti-Cheat, we're Pro-Game and you're Anti-Game.

Mmmm....a bit incorrect.

You are a "want to be" anti cheat maker.
TKC -is- Pro-Game for the player and -does- what it sets out to do...you just don't want to admit those points of fact.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: ZOldDude on October 09, 2007, 06:35:16 am
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Anti-Game

Just to address this one term...use the SEARCH function and look for the game TKC is building which we will host FREE to the world.

All the best programmers we have found,working for free to give the world a top shelf all new game engine and the first disk hosted by us at our expense for all.

Of course the hook to that is it will be a demo...a very LARGE demo...and after "X" amount of free downloads (hosted and mirrored) we intend to reward those involved with profit from sales of a series of highest level games based on our "TKC Game Engine" for decades to come,which will be licenced for the bases of all the very best games for well over a decade from it's public debut....before we revise it to keep up with hardware.

Freedom draws talent.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Doolittle on October 09, 2007, 08:24:18 am
So you are making a game, putting time into it. Taking the time to debug it. Do the art and sound and all that other stuff.

Isn't that what BIS did too? Why are you destroying someone else's hard work? Why are you attacking their blood and sweat with your cheats? I would think someone who worked on a project over a long period of time would learn to appreciate other people doing similar things.

If you make the greatest game in the world, that still doesn't change the history that is being recorded here and now of you all being jerks to other people online. You've drawn out something allright... you've drawn out the bullies. Even if they are talented, they're still losers. Picking on other people who come home after working long hours to just sit down and enjoy a relaxing game when you guys show up, lock up Joe's keyboard, drop bombs and leave. Yeah, that's real talent. More like abuse.

Doolittle
(Signing my name because I'm proud of this rebuttal. But sad that it's such an obvious rebuttal that you guys hadn't even thought of because a conscious is beyond you.)
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: ZOldDude on October 09, 2007, 09:07:25 am
Well TKC is about personal freedom...period.
Some call it a "cheat site",some call it "a group of talented programmers" and then...some call it "devils children".

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Isn't that what BIS did too?
Not really.
BIS like most game developers strives to create a product that can be sold to a publisher and thus make their 'hopeful' fortune.
All errors in programming that require "patch's" are part of contract with said publisher who buys...and now owns the "product".
That is the end game for them.

We can all see how this model has come up vastly lacking for the end buyer...while at the same time screwing the developer.
More so if they contract with the assholes at Take2 or any publishers that they own and control.

The model I put forth to the owner of TKC's URL avoids the Dev/Publisher/buyer-user-player pitfalls and comes up with what I myself think is the best possible product and at the same time the most rewarding to those involved in production.
No patches ever needed on an engine level.
All publication of demo controlled by TKC.
An engine that will power games for 10-15 years or longer with very few upgrades to handle new hardware.

Sure I help admin and protect a cheat site.
Sure I have no problems with certain server owners/resalers.
Sure I tell fascist/stateist minded people to kiss my ass (like all the time!)
Where is the problem?
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: ZOldDude on October 09, 2007, 10:07:02 am
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Why are you destroying someone else's hard work?
Who?
Me?
The Staff of TKC?
The Mods of TKC?
The posters of TKC?
The millions each month that visit and read TKC?

Just who the hell are you referring to when you claim "you" are "destroying" people works?
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: fartface on October 09, 2007, 05:55:46 pm
Your abusing other peoples freedom to play a game with a set group of strangers who also want to also play it that way, you may argue about the locked servers but i have little time for clans!

Doolittle mate, it seriously isnt worth wasting the energy you use typing to these morons!  They contradict themselvs with the feeble excuses they always seem to think they are outsmarting you with.  They seem to think your free time spent online just doesnt physically take place due to it being online.  Those countless hours ranking yourself up is just nothing to them.  They are just selfish morons who think its amusing to watch peoples fun get ruined by their inability to actually comprehend the negativity that their involvment is having within the community!  Saying that, im guessing that in thier ideal world there would be no order or rules, just people generally doing what ever they want to do.

 "Oh look ive just smashed my car into next doors house, oh well, as long as my house is ok i dont give a shit!

Advice for you plebs!  See a head doctor yeah?
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on October 09, 2007, 07:14:58 pm
Advice for you plebs!  See a head doctor yeah?
If I did see one, what makes you think he's gonna question me about my online play style?
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Doolittle on October 09, 2007, 09:23:29 pm
ff, you're right. Their response just then was pretty dense too. I suppose for the Justice System they don't talk the criminals out of doing crime, they just lock them up. I suppose putting up protective measures is the only way to deal with these losers.

I think when my script thing detects a cheater I'll have it say, "Shouldn't you be programming your egg game?" before it locks them.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Doolittle on October 09, 2007, 10:00:39 pm
When I talk about being productive, not destructive... have a look at http://armedassault.info/... here's a bunch of talented people moving the game forward. You all are just making poison.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: ZOldDude on October 09, 2007, 10:17:11 pm
I think when my script thing detects a cheater I'll have it say, "Shouldn't you be programming your egg game?"

I like that idea!
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: M. O. on October 09, 2007, 10:21:17 pm
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"Oh look ive just smashed my car into next doors house, oh well, as long as my house is ok i dont give a shit!

Advice for you plebs!  See a head doctor yeah?

Lol, again you're comparing real life with games. Think about it. Is it really us that need a "head doctor"?
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: fartface on October 09, 2007, 11:12:43 pm
Yawns  :icon_laugh
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: XX55XX on October 10, 2007, 12:54:13 am
Some of you guys obviously take video games a tad too seriously... That is all I will say.

And are cheaters really poisoning a developer's work? No, as long as the developers get proper compensation. Maybe if one is a mod developer, he can say that, but for people making games to earn their paychecks, it hardly matters, as long as they get that paycheck. Video games are controlled by the big media these days. They could care less about online cheating, as long as the cheaters buy their product!
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: ZOldDude on October 10, 2007, 06:52:44 am
Doolittle,
I was looking at Gnat's Navy mod's today.
Really looks interesting.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Doolittle on October 10, 2007, 09:25:13 am
Why are you telling me this?
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Evillor on October 10, 2007, 09:54:28 am
As XX55XX said, do you really think that BIS or any other game company cares about the player? once they have sold their game, they dont care what happens as long as the cash rolls in. I thought Wesker's response was pretty good actually, so if a sane response is "dense" to you doolittle, that says more about you than him.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: ZOldDude on October 10, 2007, 11:00:26 am
Why are you telling me this?

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Doolittle,
I was looking at Gnat's Navy mod's today.
Really looks interesting.

I thought that you like myself and others had an interest in the game.
After all is that not the purpose for all the mods and cheats in the first place?
If the game was total CRAP then nobody would care one way or another.

Personally I enjoy this game so much I don't bother to play all the others (I have everything...even stuff not out yet).
 
I do plan on joining in some sort of ladder contest when I return to L.A.,probably with some people who are not really liked allot by some of the TKC old timers from the OFP days.
I don't have a problem with cheating and fair play...each has a place for me to enjoy.

Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Hamma_Kavula on October 13, 2007, 11:04:12 am
Maybe they don't care but they probably should. Think about it, are you likely to buy a multilayer game in the future from a developer that has proved they could give a shit about securing the enjoyment for the masses who purchase their product? It's bad business and very short sighted.. AV devs on the other hand love it everytime a new virus hits critical mass striking terror into their consumer base and bolstering their sales.

Come to think of it maybe you guys should get some kickback from CodeMasters  :icon_laugh
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: ZOldDude on October 13, 2007, 11:07:35 pm
Well,
1) I have not had to buy software for over 30 years.
2) Get a AV/trojan/rootkit system that never needs a "definition" update.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: MrMedic on October 13, 2007, 11:28:38 pm
Why are you telling me this?

because you are an idiot ?
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Hamma_Kavula on October 14, 2007, 12:01:32 am
Right, but you're one of the special people. Not really part of the target demographic
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Junkz on October 20, 2007, 10:40:40 pm
Well TKC is about personal freedom...period.
Some call it a "cheat site",some call it "a group of talented programmers" and then...some call it "devils children".

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Isn't that what BIS did too?
Not really.
BIS like most game developers strives to create a product that can be sold to a publisher and thus make their 'hopeful' fortune.
All errors in programming that require "patch's" are part of contract with said publisher who buys...and now owns the "product".
That is the end game for them.

We can all see how this model has come up vastly lacking for the end buyer...while at the same time screwing the developer.
More so if they contract with the assholes at Take2 or any publishers that they own and control.

The model I put forth to the owner of TKC's URL avoids the Dev/Publisher/buyer-user-player pitfalls and comes up with what I myself think is the best possible product and at the same time the most rewarding to those involved in production.
No patches ever needed on an engine level.
All publication of demo controlled by TKC.
An engine that will power games for 10-15 years or longer with very few upgrades to handle new hardware.

Sure I help admin and protect a cheat site.
Sure I have no problems with certain server owners/resalers.
Sure I tell fascist/stateist minded people to kiss my ass (like all the time!)
Where is the problem?

ZOldDude this dream of your perfect game with no patching or updates..  Its abit far fetched whether man mad or completely machine made it will still have bugs and stuff people dont like about it.
10-15 yrs ...? no one will ever use an engine for more than 5 years or if they did it would prolly be upgraded or even  PATCHED   ;)
Dude you dreaming, wake up and smell reality cus it stinks.

Why are you telling me this?

because you are an idiot ?

Like most comments from a 15 yr old kid, cant answer the question and has to go offensive.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Junkz on October 20, 2007, 10:48:04 pm
They all seem to keep crashing its such a pain in the ass

If you didnt cheat on the servers the anticheats wouldnt crash them out, Simple answer really.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: yankov_vich on November 02, 2007, 11:59:15 am
This thread is misinformation completely, c'mon, oldest trick in the book. "uh, you said there was a bank robbery officer?" while still stuffin the cash into ya pants.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: MyMonkeyisMad on November 27, 2007, 03:43:38 pm
A little help from the "gentlemen" that know how to do what people like you do.

I rent a server - its not got a lot of slots but it allows us to host our own missions etc... :icon_laugh

Now i have a theoretical question - is it possible for a "hacker" (i use the term unless you guys prefer something else) to crash a server through a script?

If guys want to enhance their time through manipulating scores being invincilbe etc then good for them - but a maliciuos hack to crash a server is not popular especially as i pay for the server rental.

So is it possible and is this one of your scripts or from a competitor? LOL.

And yes my monkey really is mad.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: d3dsh33p on November 27, 2007, 05:32:02 pm
i have never once been able to crash a server with the hack available here...

i was accused of purposely crashing their servers but i found out later it was due to the XAM mod...

some people will say that the scp hack crashes servers, but i for the life of me couldnt crash my own running every script in it untill my own game crashed... come back to the server and its still running at its normal horrible fps
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: mReURO on November 27, 2007, 05:51:33 pm

Now i have a theoretical question - is it possible for a "hacker" (i use the term unless you guys prefer something else) to crash a server through a script?


yes



So is it possible and is this one of your scripts or from a competitor? LOL.


maybe
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: MyMonkeyisMad on November 27, 2007, 07:48:12 pm
Is that a slightly subtle hint? :icon_razz2

Any ideas of who has this type of script and how it can be prevented? I'm all for cheating to make things interesting..  :icon_teehee just dont like ones that crash servers as it spoils it for the other players, and gives my server a bad rep.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: ZOldDude on November 28, 2007, 12:51:07 am
Nothing in the SCP is there to crash servers nor will it cuase a server to crash becuase the code in it is buggy.

One version of the XAM mode does crash servers...and this mod has d/l links all over the BI forums!

When SCP 1.1 scriting was being done TKC asked server owners/resalers if -they- wanted to "edit" one of the scripts...if so TKC was willing to use it as a replacement.

Read the thread here:
http://tkc-community.net/forum/index.php?topic=6887.0
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: MyMonkeyisMad on November 28, 2007, 01:05:51 pm
Thanks guys i guess i missed the boat on that one lol. :icon_cry2

love the forum though, keep up the oustanding work :icon_razz2
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Easy_tiger on November 28, 2007, 01:13:03 pm
A little help from the "gentlemen" that know how to do what people like you do.

I rent a server - its not got a lot of slots but it allows us to host our own missions etc... :icon_laugh

Now i have a theoretical question - is it possible for a "hacker" (i use the term unless you guys prefer something else) to crash a server through a script?

If guys want to enhance their time through manipulating scores being invincilbe etc then good for them - but a maliciuos hack to crash a server is not popular especially as i pay for the server rental.

So is it possible and is this one of your scripts or from a competitor? LOL.

And yes my monkey really is mad.

No script in the SCP i'm aware of can crash servers. We do not condone server crashing, theres just no point to it..

Most server crashes are caused by dodgy mods (i.e XAM pushed a public var out to ALL players, as all players didnt have XAM the server keeled over and died) In game VOIP is also a problem it can even crash out PLAYERS!
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: ZOldDude on November 28, 2007, 02:27:24 pm
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In game VOIP is also a problem it can even crash out PLAYERS!
QG official BI add-on causes issues.
On TS even the RN guys and server Sellers bitch about it!

Point here being that the only code for this game -without bugs- is made by TKC.
Even the RN guys and server resellers have said both in public and on TS that BI should have employed TKC to debugged QG add-on if not code it in the first place!!!

Personally I think that part of TKC's advanced staff/programmers goals (as in our EGGARADO project) should be to prepare programmers to work in/become separate professionals in the software/game field.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Doolittle on November 29, 2007, 07:36:39 am
MyMonkeyisMad, send me a PM of your e-mail. I have made an anti-SCP mod.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: ZOldDude on November 29, 2007, 10:51:15 am
MyMonkeyisMad, send me a PM of your e-mail. I have made an anti-SCP mod.

Right...and it does not work worth jack shit.

You had -ONE- chance to help the ArmA community that would never have been bypassed and rather than help everyone you decided to stick your thumb up your ass.
http://tkc-community.net/forum/index.php?topic=6887.0

Look forward to ArmA patch 1.09 and have a merry Xmas Mr. Dooverylittle.

@ Monkey...
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but a maliciuos hack to crash a server is not popular especially as i pay for the server rental.
As I and others have already stated BI forum mods are the #1 cause of server/client crashes.
If you are renting from -squad servers- just ask Big John what mods you need to have or not have and all your problems will end.

PS: he has been using Doonothings program on all his servers the whole time. A lack of issues on his property -may- be a good word from a friend.
Or not.
You can never tell for sure.

Z
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Easy_tiger on November 29, 2007, 12:46:51 pm
MyMonkeyisMad, send me a PM of your e-mail. I have made an anti-SCP mod.
your anti cheat mod is no good im afraid. I was on a server last nite and it made no difference to me antics.

That "XXX has caused a flagrant error" msg was funny tho"
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: ZOldDude on November 29, 2007, 01:21:23 pm
TKC is like the hammer of the honkeytonk gods:
Born at the junction of form and function!
(http://b7.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00729/75/24/729814257_m.jpg)
http://www.myspace.com/billkirchen  Hammer Of The Honkytonk Gods.
All anticheats against TKC are like Rocks Into Sand (same link)
Most on-line payers Working Man (same link)
One thing we can all get together on...Hot Rod Lincoln (again same link).
Viva California!
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Doolittle on November 30, 2007, 01:30:16 am
MyMonkeyisMad, send me a PM of your e-mail. I have made an anti-SCP mod.
your anti cheat mod is no good im afraid. I was on a server last nite and it made no difference to me antics.

That "XXX has caused a flagrant error" msg was funny tho"
Easy_tiger, what cheat were you using? Stock SCP is totally busted and a lot of the new cheaters are being caught/IP banned because youz guys won't let them know what's up. You just hand them a cheat and they run off and get caught 'cause no one told them it can be detected. But I guess that's good for us... the good guys. The mighty side of right that is nice and clean and fair.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: ZOldDude on November 30, 2007, 02:40:49 am
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Stock SCP is totally busted
Sounds like somebody is way behind the times and can't handle the fact he is a crap programmer.

Tell you what...move to CZ and get a job with BI.

Or if you want to be a anti-cheat programmer move to Texas and help program PunkBuster.
They could use some help as each update is bypassed in an hour.

Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Junkz on November 30, 2007, 08:03:10 am
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Stock SCP is totally busted
Sounds like somebody is way behind the times and can't handle the fact he is a crap programmer.

Tell you what...move to CZ and get a job with BI.

Or if you want to be a anti-cheat programmer move to Texas and help program PunkBuster.
They could use some help as each update is bypassed in an hour.



ZZZzzzzzzz You TKC guyz bore me im moving on, Dont wanna play good games that get trashed by scum like you.

Cya  o/
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Junkz on November 30, 2007, 08:07:14 am
BTW, SES are shutting down soon due to your cheat antics, so think yourself HERO's if ya like cus this is where most of the server are gonna end up.
Is this YOUR MISSION ..?   shut down as many servers as you can ..?  Free gaming my ass - stop talking bollocks - put a nade where your mouth is  ;)

I couldnt give shit anymore.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Nutty101 on November 30, 2007, 09:14:59 am
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Stock SCP is totally busted
Sounds like somebody is way behind the times and can't handle the fact he is a crap programmer.

Tell you what...move to CZ and get a job with BI.

Or if you want to be a anti-cheat programmer move to Texas and help program PunkBuster.
They could use some help as each update is bypassed in an hour.

Nothing new. PB is pretty much crapo anyway might as well call it securerom.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: MyMonkeyisMad on November 30, 2007, 05:36:39 pm
Strange thing is about all this cheating lark is when did it move from being hamless to othe players - i.e making yourself invunerable to actually messing up other players?

Yesterday i got well and truely done by a hacker :icon_cry2 which was funny coz if someone was that crappy to me in real life they'd be sucking through a straw about now.
But since they can hide behind the numerous wires and electronics and distance i guess its tantermount to terrorism really.

Consider yourself terrorists TKC. :icon_devil.

But then this is a game which makes it quite funny. If this were real life i'd be ramming some 9mm rounds into your peverted heads.

Long live TKC.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Easy_tiger on November 30, 2007, 06:06:38 pm
Strange thing is about all this cheating lark is when did it move from being hamless to othe players - i.e making yourself invunerable to actually messing up other players?

Yesterday i got well and truely done by a hacker :icon_cry2 which was funny coz if someone was that crappy to me in real life they'd be sucking through a straw about now.
But since they can hide behind the numerous wires and electronics and distance i guess its tantermount to terrorism really.

Consider yourself terrorists TKC. :icon_devil.

But then this is a game which makes it quite funny. If this were real life i'd be ramming some 9mm rounds into your peverted heads.

Long live TKC.

You summed it up well when you said "But then this is just a game which makes it quite funny" :icon_thumbsup.

Long Live TKC!
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Doolittle on November 30, 2007, 09:49:58 pm
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Stock SCP is totally busted
Sounds like somebody is way behind the times and can't handle the fact he is a crap programmer.
I'll say this as slowly as possible: download SCP, connect to DACS protected server, notice you are caught.

You rebuttal people by saying they should go to English class? You tell people it's their fault the servers crash because they won't take the time to submit scripts which fix your cheat program? Once I finally saw what mental world you lived in, I decided to spend more time far away from youz guys.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Frank P. on December 01, 2007, 04:51:31 am
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Stock SCP is totally busted
Sounds like somebody is way behind the times and can't handle the fact he is a crap programmer.
I'll say this as slowly as possible: download SCP, connect to DACS protected server, notice you are caught.

You rebuttal people by saying they should go to English class? You tell people it's their fault the servers crash because they won't take the time to submit scripts which fix your cheat program? Once I finally saw what mental world you lived in, I decided to spend more time far away from youz guys.
SCP V1.0 HAS been detected but not the later versions.
And yet here you are, spending more and more time as ever with us :D Welcome to the family.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: ZOldDude on December 01, 2007, 06:41:07 am
Perhaps I will adopt him...then I will have another son to take fishing.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Frank P. on December 01, 2007, 07:42:13 am
Perhaps I will adopt him...then I will have another son to take fishing.
You can adopt me...
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: MyMonkeyisMad on December 03, 2007, 07:18:42 pm
i guess the moral here is if you want to stay hack free and want a "serious" game then join a clan and play on passworded days on private clan servers like ours.

If you play on a public server then you run the gauntlet and take the chance of getting pwned.
I only play on a private passworded server now when i want to put some serious game time in.

If i'm gonna mess about then ill take the chance on a public server and if i get hacked then i get hacked - im not going to suffer for it because:

A. I can reconnect afterwards and carry on.
B. I can just disconnect and play on another server.
C. I can play on our passworded server.
D. I can go play something else.

Its a shame your antics get guys banned who have been "ghosted" i'd though it more honourable to admit that this guys has been hacked by a message on screen to other players after a set amount of time?

but then again i guess the whole idea is to hack and get away with it?
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: ZOldDude on December 04, 2007, 01:20:51 am
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i guess the moral here is if you want to stay hack free and want a "serious" game then join a clan and play on passworded days on private clan servers like ours.

Unless it is a game "protected" by PunkBuster...then a passworded server does no good and also opens it to ALOT of abuse even a reformat.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Frank P. on December 04, 2007, 11:02:11 am
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i guess the moral here is if you want to stay hack free and want a "serious" game then join a clan and play on passworded days on private clan servers like ours.

Unless it is a game "protected" by PunkBuster...then a passworded server does no good and also opens it to ALOT of abuse even a reformat.
How so? What's wrong with PB's pws?
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: ZOldDude on December 04, 2007, 05:06:56 pm
I am never going to say how.
It's best that those who know never tell the public and the same with the GameSpy browser exploits.

In the poll for a CoD section I said I might make the tools for PB up for d/l but some of those tools would lead to destruction so I have changed my mind.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Frank P. on December 05, 2007, 09:20:56 am
I am never going to say how.
It's best that those who know never tell the public and the same with the GameSpy browser exploits.

In the poll for a CoD section I said I might make the tools for PB up for d/l but some of those tools would lead to destruction so I have changed my mind.
Your only one man Z. Well at least I hope your a man. I'm not relieved nor disappointed that don't wish to share some of your Anti-PB tools as I never play with PB on nor have it on my system as I personally think it's a waste of space. But I am sure that some cheaters will be sighing and some anti-cheaters will be celebrating about your decision to not release your exquisite tools ;)
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: ZOldDude on December 05, 2007, 11:53:38 am
The tools need to also come with a list of PB function,calls,commands etc....and useing part of that you could do real damage to any server useing PB.

You don't even need to connect to the game or even own the game...just know the address and port of a server.

No PB tools from me.
Title: Re: What is up with these damn servers???
Post by: Frank P. on December 05, 2007, 12:00:49 pm
The tools need to also come with a list of PB function,calls,commands etc....and useing part of that you could do real damage to any server useing PB.

You don't even need to connect to the game or even own the game...just know the address and port of a server.

No PB tools from me.
Probably in the best interest of the public (and yourself?).