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Hacking and Art => Armed Assault 3 => Armed Assault => Topic started by: Avatar on September 05, 2007, 07:58:52 pm

Title: BS Forums
Post by: Avatar on September 05, 2007, 07:58:52 pm
Well ill say it here as this is what the enemy are talking about.
This was on a topic in BIS forums
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Find the hosting company that hosts their website, and report their site for  violation of terms of service. Im quite sure what there site contains violates more tham one TOS from their host.

The more who report them ( in a sensable mature manor ) the more likely action will be taken.

Is there any problem with site getting shut down or is he just trying to be a hero?
Title: BS Forums
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 05, 2007, 08:22:15 pm
Well ill say it here as this is what the enemy are talking about.
This was on a topic in BIS forums
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Find the hosting company that hosts their website, and report their site for  violation of terms of service. Im quite sure what there site contains violates more tham one TOS from their host.

The more who report them ( in a sensable mature manor ) the more likely action will be taken.

Is there any problem with site getting shut down or is he just trying to be a hero?

as said later on in the thread the hosting company dont care lol  :icon_laugh and why should they?

I also love the statement from Chaos that "They cant make a constant ID changer". Oh well let the ignorrant believe what they like...  :icon_rolleyes2 
Title: BS Forums
Post by: Avatar on September 05, 2007, 08:29:38 pm
Yeh. They just come out with crap on there most of the time about things they could do to stop us and other stuff. If BIS REALLY Cared they would come up with somethign better or get PB.... But then obviously they don't care or are to cheap skate to design something and make some silly signed addons thign that doesn't seems to have helped at all as people with mods (even ones not loaded) get kicked off some servers lol.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 05, 2007, 08:56:13 pm
Topic has been split
Try to stay on topic guys
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 05, 2007, 09:23:19 pm
Well ill say it here as this is what the enemy are talking about.
This was on a topic in BIS forums
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Find the hosting company that hosts their website, and report their site for  violation of terms of service. Im quite sure what there site contains violates more tham one TOS from their host.

The more who report them ( in a sensable mature manor ) the more likely action will be taken.

Is there any problem with site getting shut down or is he just trying to be a hero?

They can contact me as often as they wish...I am never going to end hosting for TKC.
Currently TKC is allotted 40GB's of bandwith per day @ a yearly cost for them of only $89 USD and if paid for the full year up front I deduct another $15.54 USD.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 05, 2007, 09:26:36 pm
lmao ZOldude is leasing the hosting space???

LMAO they have NO chance then lololololol  :icon_laugh
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 05, 2007, 09:27:12 pm
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If BIS REALLY Cared they would come up with somethign better or get PB

First off they don't sale enough copies to PAY for PB..2nd PB is the most hacked anti-cheat program around.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 05, 2007, 09:28:20 pm
lmao ZOldude is leasing the hosting space???

LMAO they have NO chance then lololololol  :icon_laugh

None what so ever. :wink2
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: M. O. on September 05, 2007, 09:37:40 pm
We've had loads of complaints during the years. Once they even tried to bribe the host.

The thing is that we don't break any terms of service or laws. A forum about multiplayer "cheating" is not illegal. Software that can be used for "cheating" in multiplayer is not illegal. And what's cheating? Do I cheat when I break some imaginary rules? Can this webpage be accused of what I hypothetically do? Bribing hosts is illegal though.


Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Avatar on September 05, 2007, 09:39:07 pm
Well if i had known that i wouldnt have cared. I know pb isnt the best but pretty much all games anti-cheat systems are not worth it as most are bypassed. But atleast it might keep the moaners quiet :P
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 06, 2007, 12:17:26 am
haha I've always loved it when people try and get the hosting shut down, even if the host did care (and sometimes they did) theres always a new one.

but since those times we've had to tone it down a bit (no more fuck your site up for fun)



Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 06, 2007, 02:29:20 pm
I also love the assumptions on the BIS forum  that anyone with a fake ID is a pirate.  :icon_laugh

Ive got 2 copies of ArmA and therefore 2 valid game ID's, because i choose not to disclose them i am therefore a pirate? lol   


Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 06, 2007, 02:46:54 pm
I also love the assumptions on the BIS forum  that anyone with a fake ID is a pirate.  :icon_laugh
History could be just repeating it self here.
A few years after OFP was released people suddenly started having long 100XXXXXXX ID's
Admins kept banning them left, right and center then later it emerged that them keys where legit, the latest Czech re-release of the game produced them types of keys.   :smile
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Frank P. on September 06, 2007, 04:09:31 pm
I also love the assumptions on the BIS forum  that anyone with a fake ID is a pirate.  :icon_laugh
History could be just repeating it self here.
A few years after OFP was released people suddenly started having long 100XXXXXXX ID's
Admins kept banning them left, right and center then later it emerged that them keys where legit, the latest Czech re-release of the game produced them types of keys.   :smile
Hahaha, I could imagine that. Ban ban ban ban!..... Say what? The new Czech re-releases have these ID's... oh well BAN BAN BAN!
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 06, 2007, 05:17:12 pm
I think I already read that some guy has a legit 10 digit

unless that was one of you guys
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 06, 2007, 10:54:17 pm
I think I already read that some guy has a legit 10 digit

unless that was one of you guys
Lol, it could be true. I don't think BIS has given any official replies on the many "Are 10 digit ID's legit" questions.
This would throw a spanner in the works of their "?_userID > 999999999 then kick" idea.  :icon_laugh
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Avatar on September 06, 2007, 11:33:01 pm
Well im 85% sure Suma (ondrej) said 10 digit ideas were fake on BIS forums. But then again who cares i got 2 9 digit ID'S :D
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 06, 2007, 11:39:17 pm
Well im 85% sure Suma (ondrej) said 10 digit ideas were fake on BIS forums. But then again who cares i got 2 9 digit ID'S :D

No...he never said that,somebody claimed that he got a PM/email from him saying so.

He would have no idea anyhow as BI has NOTHING to do with the CD-KEYS...that and the ID's made from them is up to the many PUBLISHERS.

The on-line keygen provides 100% valid keys/ID's from 6-12 #'s long.

EDIT: See this thread:
http://tkc-community.net/forum/index.php?topic=6547.0
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 06, 2007, 11:59:58 pm
well, i keep trying to find the thread and it seems it was deleted or something...


it was a 9th infantry guy saying his clan guy bought it and cant play the game bc he keeps getting kicked form other servers

and was there any way around it w/o buying the game again lol

edit found it

http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?s=1fcd380c78498c35b698ad1ae8e639fb;act=ST;f=68;t=68043
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Avatar on September 07, 2007, 12:25:08 am
Lol that guy has confussed me he is saying its legal but stuff is happening to him? hmmm
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 07, 2007, 12:29:26 am
10 digit ID's are legal or the GS Master server would not allow them. Those on the BI forums saying otherwise are talking out their ass.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 07, 2007, 02:12:25 am
im sure if a hell of a alot more copies were sold 10 digit ID's wouldnt be an issue....
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 08, 2007, 03:58:19 am
well, i keep trying to find the thread and it seems it was deleted or something...


it was a 9th infantry guy saying his clan guy bought it and cant play the game bc he keeps getting kicked form other servers

and was there any way around it w/o buying the game again lol

edit found it

http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?s=1fcd380c78498c35b698ad1ae8e639fb;act=ST;f=68;t=68043


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HEllo guy's a clan member of me has a problem.. and i hope you guy's can help,
He has a 10 digit ID and he bought his game legally a Uk version downloaded from a link on the Official ARMA website..
But evrytime he joins, ouer server kicks him and say's Illegal versions will degrade or something... We heard some rumours that 10 digit ID's are illegal so we are filtering those ID numbers now...

1 question... Is 10 digit ID's legal? (please official people answer this question so we will al know it)
2 question... What can he do to fix this if 10 digit ID's are illegal. (and don't come with buy a new one)

Also he turned into a bird this last day's while playing. I heard that is because of illegal version also..
He is playing this game allready for about 6 months and al this stuff just happend in the past few day's after he downloaded the patch 1.5 to 1.8 after a total reinstall and got the new key from the page he downloaded it from (www.metaboli.co.uk). From this point this weird things started to happen.

Thanks for the time... hoping for an answer.

Edited by {9thInf}Winchester Delta1 on Sep. 05 2007,16:05 

Anyone notice it has NO OFFICAL ANSWERE?
The reason is twofold...
BI has NO control over either the CD-KEYS -or- the resulting ID# size.

To those ArmA Fanboys who say that the info on this subject posted on TKC should not be accepted...wake up and smell the coffee.

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Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: M. O. on September 08, 2007, 04:19:38 am
Well if they stop 10 digit IDs. We'll just publish a tutorial and then a tool on how to change the ID to whatever one wants. Besides 10 digit or even 100 digit IDs aren't illegal. Changing IDs or keys isn't illegal. key changing _can_ be used for criminal activities that we don't support. But the tool and the keys themselves aren't illegal.

We're also free to discuss anything we want here. That's free speech.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Avatar on September 08, 2007, 04:24:35 am
Will it ever be possible to take someone elses Id or get thee id and tur into key so then you have there ID?
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: M. O. on September 08, 2007, 04:27:11 am
You'll be able to use any ID you want. Turning it into a key is a bit problematic and I guess the algo doesn't use a one-to-one transformation ID->Key. But I could be wrong.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 08, 2007, 04:31:25 am
Well if they stop 10 digit IDs. We'll just publish a tutorial and then a tool on how to change the ID to whatever one wants.

True...but the fact remains what the facts are.
All the ID#s resulting from the keygen which uses the games algorithm of valid key vs ID...are valid.
BI has no control over either the KEYS or resulting ID#'s as that is in the hands of the many differant publishers...who use the SAME game embedded algorithm.

Anything a person could want to help "hack" a game COMES ON THE GAME DISK including any encryption/decryption information.
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Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 08, 2007, 04:40:04 am
Will it ever be possible to take someone elses Id or get thee id and tur into key so then you have there ID?

The short answere is yes.

Will TKC ever make the infomation public?
I doubt it.

Read post #17 in this thread for a link to the subject that talks about reversed keyS.
I think that is far enough information to be in public hands at this point...any coder could do it with the other tools already out in the ArmA threads here.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 08, 2007, 06:43:09 am
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i think bi have no control over the size of the digits... and the stupid keygen can also generate lower then 10 digits keys..


well i just cant beleave why people try to create cheats for arma.. its just stupid lame to create c cheat for a open-source game (every child can do it.. really) ... they should better try to do create stuff for games with a real anti-cheat protection, so they could learn something or just go to hell and die or whatever ^^

i think the MAIN problem is atm this command: disableUserInput

if you write a script which use this action, no one can stop the cheater and he can just fuck the server up! Also a big problem is that its too easy to write a script which allow you to spawn vehicle, buildings or every object you like... BI should really do something against this security problems or they community is just going down.

Today, a guy called: MrMedic joined on our server (with a 10 digit key..), he locked our inputs and just spawned shit at the start... since that our server is running in privat mode again and we just give our friends the password..... and i think if no one do something against this friendless cheater bastards all the server will run public...

But the community is also not great atm, a lot of people are just playing evolution (the mission is not bad... but why EVERY day the god damn same map? ). Remember.. who like to cheat if there is no ranking?? just add some vehicle respawn to the missions, stop that ranking bullshit and find a way to close the securty problem (the  "spawn and input" bug)(the input problem is easy to "repair".. we just added some sweet script to our server which fix that bug, but we dont know atm how to fix the spawn problem.. but i think we will find a way asap..) and no one really need to cheat, because its just no motivation... you cant win anything....

(execept the player vs player missions..)

At least i just can say... only idiots create and write cheats for arma, because its just a open source game and so just a work for idiots with small dicks  Most of the commands are just local on your computer, that allows arma to give you this variety of different missions, addons, modifications and maptypes... but it also allows noobs, like this TKC guys to write stupid, lame scripts which "makes super-cheats". But in fact, these cheats are not more then scripts and i beleave that every mission creater is a better scripter as these cheaters...

and @cheaters... .sqf files are better then these .sqs files which you use :P --- LAAAAME 

greets
 

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i think bi have no control over the size of the digits... and the stupid keygen can also generate lower then 10 digits keys..
Correct on both points.

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well i just cant beleave why people try to create cheats for arma.. its just stupid lame to create c cheat for a open-source game (every child can do it.. really)
Incorrect.

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they should better try to do create stuff for games with a real anti-cheat protection, so they could learn something or just go to hell and die or whatever
TKC Dev's make cheats for all games even if TKC has no section for said game.
Many work for the same companies that develop said games at some leaval.
Many join TKC out of frustration of employers not listening to them about problems during software development.

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Today, a guy called: MrMedic joined on our server (with a 10 digit key..),
A 10 digit key IS a valid key...get that in your head.
MrM a.k.a. MrMedic is not just a section Mod here on TKC but a Mod/Admin on many coding sites.
He makes a pretty penny or two selling PunkBuster cheats and pays for his family's holidays with that "extra cash" a few times each year.

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But the community is also not great atm, a lot of people are just playing evolution
I agree.
Then again I myself LIKE Evolution.
I am still on patch 1.05 and use this map to allow me time to learn how to play the game fully...yes,without cheating.
When I feel that I can control every part of the game/map without "help" I may upgrade to patch 1.08 and play IN A SQUAD with Nic M. and the boys on the RN server(s).

Nic not only sales game servers he BUILDS and OVERCLOCKS each computer himself and hosts them in L.A. on the main western USA backbone (a dirrect Pacific O.C. line to AU from here as well as the L.A. DNS server...1 of 13 for the whole worlds internet).

Yes I also have contact with server salers/owners and give them the exact same amount of cooperation and respect they give me...both sides never talking about "what goes on" in the other camp...just fellow players having a few beers on TS and getting our game on same as on the TKC TS.
Fun shit...would not give it up for all the world.

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the input problem is easy to "repair".. we just added some sweet script to our server which fix that bug, but we dont know atm how to fix the spawn problem.. but i think we will find a way asap.
Easy?
Might seem so but all I can say is GOOD LUCK.
You will need it because I know better.

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only idiots create and write cheats for (insert game name HERE!)
They are far from idiots and the bigger the games anti-cheat system the more money they make with off TKC site sales.
Remember that many uppers inside TKC have or still do work for the software developers.

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it also allows noobs, like this TKC guys
Read the comment above this one...they are FAR from "noobs".

Z

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Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 08, 2007, 04:16:18 pm

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idiots with small dicks
I myself am not an idiot and have a 5 3/4" cock...but it is very fat.










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Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Evillor on September 08, 2007, 07:12:58 pm

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idiots with small dicks
I myself am not an idiot and have a 5 3/4" cock...but it is very fat.

Fat cocks FTW!!!!

Does that sound too ghey?










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Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 08, 2007, 10:18:14 pm
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I sent a member to infiltrate there clan to gather IP addys ect ect and this is what he found out.

ALL of the ArmA hacks( SPC havok, Mutihack, Wall hack) Run As a exe outside the ArmA folder itself. and the scripts that are initialized when the EXE runs is:
teleport.sqs, addscore.sqs spawncamel.sqs, spawngallery.sqs, spawnwire.sqs, spawnhonkman.sqs,
armdrivecarefully.sqs, rigvehicle.sqs, spawnkingsmenthere.sqs, spawnkamovthere, spawnah6there.sqs,
spawnah6rthere.sqs, spawnshilkathere.sqs, spawndarkforcesthere.sqs,  artybarrage.sqs, tkaidee.sqs,
tkaidew.sqs, select_object.sqs, damage_object.sqs, spawnah6.sqs, lock_player.sqs,
unlock_player.sqs,  blackout_player.sqs, unblackout_player.sqs,  target_object.sqs,
unlimitedammo.sqf,  ai.sqs, noai.sqs,  addtkeqp.sqs, spawnslathere.sqs,  spawngangstase.sqs,
spawngangstasw.sqs,  spawngangstasr.sqs, spawnboat.sqs,
spawngangstasthere.sqs, blowthere.sqs, spawnm1s.sqs, spawntkteamkgb.sqs,  spawntkteame.sqs, spawntkteamw.sqs,
spawntkteams.sqs, spawnlighthouse.sqs, spawntkteamzombie.sqs, spawnvehicles.sqs, 
spawntkteamraf.sqs, measureg.sqs,  spawnsniperthere.sqs, spawnATe.sqs,  spawnATw.sqs,
spawnATsqd.sqs,  spawnAAsqd.sqs, spawn AAe.sqs, spawnAAw.sqs, antilock.sqs,  deletethis.sqs,
deletemass.sqs,  spawncarbombw.sqs, spawncarmbombe.sqs, lock_vehicle.sqs, unlock_vehicle.sqs,  renegademe.sqs, pills.sqs,
godmode.sqs, worldtkccenter.sqs, tkctemple.sqs, allfly.sqs, evoalltojail1.sqs,
evoalltojail2.sqs,  removeallweapons.sqs, gunsforall.sqs

So until a program comes out like PB to wear it can detect over Applications and outside folder scripts are runned, it seems like there is nothing we can do    B UT I WILL TRy TO FIND A WAY!! these tards have to  be stoped
 

Big supprize to you that nothing can be done about the cheats?
I said long ago there was nothing that could be done about it.

PunkBuster?
Take a look around pal...PB is hacked all to hell and back.

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I sent a member to infiltrate there clan to gather IP addys ect ect and this is what he found out.
LOL!
That's about the best laugh I have had in a long time.

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Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 08, 2007, 10:18:59 pm
Quote from: Hyrax0740
I sent a member to infiltrate there clan to gather IP addys ect ect and this is what he found out.

And then he pastes a load of information that we made available to public  :icon_laugh.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 08, 2007, 10:28:10 pm
Quote from: Hyrax0740
I sent a member to infiltrate there clan to gather IP addys ect ect and this is what he found out.

And then he pastes a load of information that we made available to public  :icon_laugh.

That is why I was laughing.  :icon_teehee
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Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 09, 2007, 04:18:31 am
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Actually Stryda, we have

http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin....76;st=0

post 2, the original thread has been pruned i believe.
 

Come on Jack and get with the program.
Get out in the big wide world and learn a few things rather than quote unreliable information that the Dev's @ BI have themselfs not posted for obvious reasons (IE: they have no control over keys/ID's).

Z

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Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 09, 2007, 06:20:00 am

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idiots with small dicks
I myself am not an idiot and have a 5 3/4" cock...but it is very fat.

Fat cocks FTW!!!!

Does that sound too ghey?










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yea wtf i can make myself look gay enough
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Evillor on September 09, 2007, 11:37:23 pm
Total misunderstanding, i was the one who said:

Fat cocks FTW!!!!

Does that sound too ghey?

i just screwed up the quote markers. My bad
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 10, 2007, 03:27:22 am
NP....Warning lvl wares off after a few days automatically.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 10, 2007, 03:45:04 am
those red stars are really nice tho

oh and did i read that BS "legit players" had 2 other infiltrators?

im a bit to lit to explain the ways thats funny but i gotta say

OEH NOES M#NS MAN THE TURRETS
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 10, 2007, 09:07:13 am
http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?s=32779e5506a14898708bcfb32df0990e;act=ST;f=73;t=68177
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I'm not a lawyer, but when someone is using software/hacks to slow down, or even stop a server from working.. this causes server downtime. Which ultimately costs server owners money. This is illegal. I advise that server owners come together, and threaten legal action against those of TKC.

Causing servers to crash, or forcing them to reset is illegal. This is virtual terrorism. IP addresses will need to be found, and ISP's will need to be contacted. Server admins/owners need to get together on this matter and make a plan for action.  I'm just an admin who has no financial stake in this, but threatening legal action can stop this. If they want to take it to the next level, a class action lawsuit can be initiated, and the terms would ultimately force this TKC Mullah Omar, and Wesker to face the justice system. I advise server owners to start messaging each other and formulate a plan.

A case that suggests cheaters are ruining the experience of others, is (I believe) a open shut case as it (to date) has had no legal standing. But forcing servers to be shut down, reset, or have had experience down time because of the actions of certain individual(s) is illegal and they should be prosecuted.

This action will not only slow/halt the hacks being created for Armed Assault, but for ALL of TKC's hacks that cause server downtimes... and ultimately, people money. These games and their servers could ultimately be affected as this list is on TKC's website. So if you know anyone that is ether an admin, or server owner for any game in this list, they should be contacted, and this information carried over into other forums.

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---- Vietcong 1 & 2
---- Armed Assault
---- S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
---- Battlefield 2/2142
---- Call of Juarez
---- Counter Strike: Source
---- WarRock
---- Americas Army
---- Call of Duty
---- Soldner: Secret Wars
---- Jedi Academy
---- Grand Theft Auto (MTA)
---- FIFA 07
---- SOCOM 3
---- Splinter Cell 3


Links to current TKC Videos:
Super Cheat Pack Trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU_BP0-YeAY

TKC-Main YouTube Channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TKCChannel

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All Armed Assault players would really appreciate this tremendously. I understand that Armed Assault "is just a game", but when these TKC people are costing people money.. is when the gloves should come off and its no longer "just a game"..But only server admins who pay monthly for a server will have any credibility in a case such as this. Don't forget, this "SuperCheatPack" can take YOU (The server owner) and knock you out of your own server as they take admin rights.

This could be potentially fixed by BIS (to a degree) one day... but until that day, we wont have any protection. In my opinion, it'll be very far off before we see anything successful, incorporated that stops 95% or more of the hacks. Some of those games in that list are protected by Punk Buster, and obviously that program hasn't stopped them dead in their tracks.

It doesn't matter that they have that disclaimer on their website. Thats just like saying, "I'm OJ Simpson, this website has pictures of me killing people, you cannot use this against me in court" and have that website not be used as evidence as proof of a murder. Just like TKC saying they cannot be brought to justice because everything beyond that main page is not permitted to be visited by those who seek information on them for essentially costing people a lot of money.

If your a armed assault player, refer the admins from any game in that list to this post... and have them have a look at it and perhaps start an initiative. Unless, something in this post has no standing and it gets locked. But what else is to be done about this problem? Nothing... Coming together and resolving this TKC issue isn't just for Armed Assault players, but for the hundreds of thousands of players included in that list above, and for the potential of thousands of wasted dollars on people hacking into their servers.
 

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I'm not a lawyer
Everyone can see that.

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A case that suggests cheaters are ruining the experience of others, is (I believe) a open shut case as it (to date) has had no legal standing.
So you already know it is hopeless and a waste of time and money.
No lawyer will take the case knowing this unless some fool insisted on throwing money at him...he still makes his while you go broke...but they would never take the case even if paid 99.999% of a judgement.

P.T.B. said "A fool and his money are soon parted".
I think he was talking about idiots that go after TKC in Federal Court in L.A.,USA

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This action will not only slow/halt the hacks being created for Armed Assault, but for ALL of TKC's hacks
Yeah that will happen....when Santa screws the Easter Bunny.

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I'm just an admin who has no financial stake in this
So you can't be part of a lawsuit.

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but threatening legal action can stop this
No it can't.
In fact a threat of lawsuit if mailed to the correct persons here at TKC...followed by other threats/demands opens the SENDER up to suit.

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a class action lawsuit can be initiated
Sure it -could- as long as you pay the lawyer(s) and all costs up front.
Don't hope on ever winning however....just kiss your money by-by.

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the terms would ultimately force this TKC Mullah Omar, and Wesker to face the justice system.
Are you saying that THEY are the people crashing servers?
Hard words...bring it into court if you dare but be ready to face what happens when it can't be proved.

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Once the case is over, the case would have all legal fee's (including possible travel, lawyers, time compensation, and other misc. fee's paid in full by the defendants).
Wrong Mr. Im-not-a-lawyer.
The LOSER pays all cost for both the court,his lawyer/fees/costs AND the winners lawyer/fees/costs...as well as any COUNTER SUIT JUDGEMENT.

Pesonaly I say bring it on.
EA has not wished to do so and they have the Marina Del Ray office 5 minutes from me.
File suit in Fedeal Court here in L.A. California,USA and I will be there on behalf of TKC.
Be ready to make many trips months apart as court delays are very common and these things are known to often take years...many years.
Note that as the side that files,the first time your lawyer(s) fail to show up you have lost the case.

If you have an issue with TKC and the people who host it...send your complaints to me and I will drop them in the bin after laughing at them.
As long as I see no problem with TKC in regards to law here in the USA they will keep getting high daily bandwith at cut rate prices.

Z

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Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 10, 2007, 09:40:58 am
Same thread as above:
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.......I remmeber recieving threating emails from them, lol   That they know my IP, and they will beat me up

Neither the owner of the URL or myself (the admins) sent you any such mail.
Go in the garden eat worms and die.
The world could stand to lose one more liar...before they end up in politics!
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 10, 2007, 01:52:57 pm
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the terms would ultimately force this TKC Mullah Omar, and Wesker to face the justice system.
Are you saying that THEY are the people crashing servers?
Hard words...bring it into court if you dare but be ready to face what happens when it can't be proved.
Lol, this guy must think the court room is like kindergarten where you can just point a finger at the naughty boy to get him in trouble.
Another thing missed here is that it's against TKC rules to crash servers.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: M. O. on September 10, 2007, 07:40:36 pm
It looks like they got no other things to counter with anymore. So they resort to the encouragement of criminal activities like assault, DDoS and bribes. That's illegal and documented. We're not the criminals. The criminals are on their side and now they want to take legal action to "force" people follow some imaginary rules. Sounds very much like what the mafia would do.

Let them have their silly debates. What we say and do here is covered by the freedom of speech act, no more no less.
Lawsuits over multiplayer game rules is like sueing some sandbox friend for not following the rules set up by oneself and then wanting the assistance of interpol as if there were no other "crimes" to investigate.

Oh no, he shot me in an MP game, even on my server where it's strictly forbidden. My game experience is ruined. :( Let's sue the shooter and the game makers for allowing such a thing! I don't know what that crash-server crap talk comes from but I don't see how this webpage crashes other servers. We neither host any such tools nor do we encourage them. The only times I've heard of ArmA server crashing was due to memory leaks. Crashing servers is illegal. So let's sue BIS for bad coding and blame cheaters. Is it the fault of a player if he fires a gun and the server crashes? If so, good luck finding his guilt.

The SCP is an addon of ArmA. If people think it's offensive it's arma they got to sue not some ArmA addonmaker. Identity theft, haha, yea the command globalchat is very much illegal.

Talk to interpol about someone cheating in a multiplayer game. Send some evidence to CIA too while you're on it.
But let's say you get CIA to crash this webpage. What stops cheat makers from putting their cheats at gamecopyworld megagames rapidshare etc? We want to play our way, they want to play their way. There's no right or wrong way how a game should be played.

I think some people over at BIS Forums have played too many games. They basically live in a world of fiction. Bending their imaginary rules makes them realize this.

No matter how they try bend reality, what we do here is completely legal.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 10, 2007, 08:18:51 pm
and no one says you have to open your doors to anyone who comes in i.e. public servers

if BIS really cared they would try and fix it, I'm pretty sure their company is in a state of disrepair tho, and is just barely hanging on, dropping out anything they can to keep money coming in.

some in their in-the-clouds community can't seem to realize that tho

Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 10, 2007, 09:00:26 pm
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The SCP is an addon of ArmA. If people think it's offensive it's arma they got to sue not some ArmA addonmaker.

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some in their in-the-clouds community can't seem to realize that tho

Looks like TKC are the only people who have their heads screwed on correctly!

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Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 10, 2007, 09:07:39 pm
It looks like they got no other things to counter with anymore. So they resort to the encouragement of criminal activities like assault, DDoS and bribes. That's illegal and documented. We're not the criminals. The criminals are on their side and now they want to take legal action to "force" people follow some imaginary rules. Sounds very much like what the mafia would do. (and all the rest of the message)

AMEN!
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 10, 2007, 10:03:25 pm
LMAO watch out there gonna get interpol involved  :icon_laugh

Also check the post where Jerry Hopper states that he's heard that BIS AINT ever gonna comment on this situation.

http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?s=df26213fff4d042472e2dd727633cab0;act=ST;f=73;t=68177;st=30 (http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?s=df26213fff4d042472e2dd727633cab0;act=ST;f=73;t=68177;st=30)

Looks like there slowly coming round to the fact that ID's are out of the control of the developer...


Oh and thank you Jerry Hopper for the free publicity for my chat consoleer  :icon_thumbsup
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 10, 2007, 10:10:10 pm
I saw a good post where one guy said
"Maybe BIS is TKC"

Our cover is blown!
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 10, 2007, 10:15:17 pm
rumbled! and it took them this long to figure it out........  :icon_laugh
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 11, 2007, 03:46:06 am
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The SCP is an addon of ArmA. If people think it's offensive it's arma they got to sue not some ArmA addonmaker.

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some in their in-the-clouds community can't seem to realize that tho

Looks like TKC are the only people who have their heads screwed on correctly!

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heres a good video, pay key attention to the comment posted above it

http://nothingtoxic.com/media/1189221051/Dumbass_Tries_to_Pull_a_Mary_Poppins_Off_a_Bridge
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 11, 2007, 03:39:06 pm
lol wooHooo my first h8 shout on the BIS forum

Shashman said:

"Oh look! The little hackers have hacked the BI forums  :rofl:
Yeah Easy_tiger from T*K*C all happy cos he's cast a spell of "l337 chat consoleing" on us. Here's a girlfriend, some spot cream and a 6 pack of Stella. You are now a man. "

Lmao

let me clarify:

1. "Oh look! The little hackers have hacked the BI forums  :rofl:"
lmao if you call registering / posting on the BIS forum 'Hacking' then you really dont know much

2. Girlfriend
Women are a headfuck plain and simple , Oh i fuck em but have no plans atm to get a girlfriend, fuck buddys are better  :icon_thumbsup


3.he's cast a spell of "l337 chat consoleing"
l337? Well thank you for the compliment but theres nothing "l337" about my consoleer, infact the script is incredibly simple (a bit like you)

4.some spot cream
dont need it, im blessed with a clear complexion

5. 6 pack of Stella
Cant stand Stella, its chemical-brewed shit. They call it "wife beater" for a reason aswell you know, give me a bottle of old ROsie anyday
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 11, 2007, 05:54:01 pm
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Victor:
Oh hey, KFC, come in here and defend yourselves? Oh.. yea thats right, your stuck in your virtual little caves in a virtual Pakistan and wont face the general public... pathetic 15 year olds. 

fortunately B.S. forums are not the general public. and I don't think there are any 15 years olds here soo...

I guess it's time to go around using Victors name agian in the servers
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 11, 2007, 06:49:26 pm
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Victor:
Oh hey, KFC, come in here and defend yourselves? Oh.. yea thats right, your stuck in your virtual little caves in a virtual Pakistan and wont face the general public... pathetic 15 year olds. 

fortunately B.S. forums are not the general public. and I don't think there are any 15 years olds here soo...

I guess it's time to go around using Victors name agian in the servers

lol how can we defend ourselves when we will be banned after our first post?

use Victors name? sounds like a plan   :icon_razz2
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 11, 2007, 07:38:31 pm
yea check it  :icon_laugh from a few weeks ago
http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?s=83587f7c03d5918734437959c6821f21;act=ST;f=73;t=67172
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 11, 2007, 08:01:55 pm
lol i remember now, that post made me giggle!


Well i think i shall have a Victorious time 2nite hehe  :icon_biggrin2
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 11, 2007, 11:59:07 pm
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lol how can we defend ourselves when we will be banned after our first post?

I see they have a fascist for a PR/Mod.

I hate fascist pigs.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 12, 2007, 03:11:45 pm
Looks like weve got some beta testing to do on =SF= server guys.......

Hyrax0740 said....

OK i know All the Server Owners are tried of haveing their server go to shit  from haveing a full server for days on in then some fuckstick comes in and ruins the game for everyone. Leaving playes admins and server owner in stress and wasteing there own money .

I might have a working solution to block these retards from even connecting to the Server.

I will be Testing this out for the next few days to a week, And if all goes well i will make an announcement for the Server OWNERS or contact them myself on how to stop these fuck tards for good. WISH ME LUCK!!!

Whole thread here:

http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?s=230674910a0389bf91ab3bdad2fae5f4;act=ST;f=73;t=68231 (http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?s=230674910a0389bf91ab3bdad2fae5f4;act=ST;f=73;t=68231)


Server info here:
http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?s=80a63b4a83f5289820d89f7e75580a76;act=ST;f=73;t=68181 (http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?s=80a63b4a83f5289820d89f7e75580a76;act=ST;f=73;t=68181)
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 12, 2007, 05:26:57 pm
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Binksters comment

1.  I was thinking, could you set up a avatar on KFC forums with the pic on your server and log every IP that views your avatar?  And have a mass ip ban for servers?

2. Hotlink a image same way?

or

3. Lockpassword servers

4. Wait for 109 patch and see how the new mp cheating stuff works.

5. Send IP's to FBI with a little White lie attached??

Really there isnt ever going to be a 100% cheat free game.

I know it sucks ive had like 3 games ruined this week (placed in sky, disabled keyboard, server crash)....

hahahahaha
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: MrMedic on September 12, 2007, 05:41:46 pm
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Binksters comment

I know it sucks ive had like 3 games ruined this week (placed in sky, disabled keyboard, server crash)....



sounds like he's thinking about joining us lol
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: M. O. on September 13, 2007, 12:55:06 am
Lol, now they claim we're falsifying server input by using the scripts/cheats. Packet editing could be illegal in some cases. But this is not what we do. We're not faking anything. The client executable accepts what we do (comparable to shooting your gun in mp) and sends the information to the server. No packets have been altered.

Anyway, due to all this we've decided to release some new cheats for ArmA soon. One of them being the ID-Changer. We've also begun publishing our cheats to bigger audiences on bigger cheat databases like gamecopyworld.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Avatar on September 13, 2007, 01:00:09 am
Nice news. Can't wait for good id changer keep getting 10digit ids and get banned.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: MrMedic on September 13, 2007, 05:09:46 am
Lol, now they claim we're falsifying server input by using the scripts/cheats. Packet editing could be illegal in some cases. But this is not what we do. We're not faking anything. The client executable accepts what we do (comparable to shooting your gun in mp) and sends the information to the server. No packets have been altered.

Anyway, due to all this we've decided to release some new cheats for ArmA soon. One of them being the ID-Changer. We've also begun publishing our cheats to bigger audiences on bigger cheat databases like gamecopyworld.

they are all the prodigal sons m8 .. we are the wankers lol btw gcw is going to love that ,you know how much they get in advertising from those gamecopyworld ads ?
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 13, 2007, 05:24:10 am
thats the whole thing about this.... everything in this "hack" is allowed by the game

it's nothing more than a mod
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 13, 2007, 05:46:42 am
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Hyrax0740 said....

Just like Walker and Victor,Mr. Hyrax0740 is a compleat idiot and all who listen to them are fools.
Given "the best of the forum" along with the return of Placebo ( Offical PR and forum Mod employee ) who is well known as a Facist that edits posts and bans all who do not worship BI,it looks to me as the end of BI. They are following the same steps that lead to the folding Pterodon as a software developer.
Both are/had been CZ companies.

Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 13, 2007, 07:22:07 am
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I am sure people have checked this out, I post anyhow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybercrime

...

One of the activities could be "harassment" which is a crime when talking about cyber crime.

Enough software companies and consumers complain then the laws will be enforced and the kiddies will get back to some sort of social reality.

wow, liberal, leftist thinking at its finest
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 13, 2007, 02:30:23 pm
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Hyrax0740 said....

Just like Walker and Victor,Mr. Hyrax0740 is a compleat idiot and all who listen to them are fools.
Given "the best of the forum" along with the return of Placebo ( Offical PR and forum Mod employee ) who is well known as a Facist that edits posts and bans all who do not worship BI,it looks to me as the end of BI. They are following the same steps that lead to the folding Pterodon as a software developer.
Both are/had been CZ companies.



which honestly is a shame
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Frank P. on September 13, 2007, 02:58:40 pm
Lol, now they claim we're falsifying server input by using the scripts/cheats. Packet editing could be illegal in some cases. But this is not what we do. We're not faking anything. The client executable accepts what we do (comparable to shooting your gun in mp) and sends the information to the server. No packets have been altered.

Anyway, due to all this we've decided to release some new cheats for ArmA soon. One of them being the ID-Changer. We've also begun publishing our cheats to bigger audiences on bigger cheat databases like gamecopyworld.
I though GCW only handled SP cheats e.g Trainers etc & Patches/Fixes? Good site though, probably the safest that I know and trust me every game I have gotten (legitimately, of course) I have patched with a NO-CD patch so I don't have to stuff around everytime and damage my (legitimately bought) cd. But anyway, it sounds like a good idea to give it to GCW as it wouldn't surprise me if the weekly visitors went into 6 figures.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: M. O. on September 13, 2007, 03:05:18 pm
We think it's a good counter measure against their attempts. More cheats at more places. All future releases will be TKC exclusive for a few weeks though.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 13, 2007, 08:59:42 pm
We think it's a good counter measure against their attempts. More cheats at more places. All future releases will be TKC exclusive for a few weeks though.

That's right.
We piloted a plan about a month ago to make our cheats much more accessible. The results have been far better than what we expected.

MultiHack anyone?
GameCopyWorld (http://m0006.gamecopyworld.com/games/pc_arma.shtml#ArmA: Armed Assault v1.08 MULTIHACK v3.5)
MPC (http://www.mpcforum.com/showthread.php?t=205399)
Softpedia (http://games.softpedia.com/get/Cheat-Solutions/Armed-Assault-Multihack-35-for-108.shtml)
UnknownCheats (http://www.uc-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=367894)

Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 13, 2007, 09:01:37 pm
We think it's a good counter measure against their attempts. More cheats at more places. All future releases will be TKC exclusive for a few weeks though.

That's right.
We piloted a plan about a month ago to make our cheats much more accessible. The results have been far better than what we expected.

MultiHack anyone?
GameCopyWorld (http://m0006.gamecopyworld.com/games/pc_arma.shtml#ArmA: Armed Assault v1.08 MULTIHACK v3.5)
MPC (http://www.mpcforum.com/showthread.php?t=205399)
Softpedia (http://games.softpedia.com/get/Cheat-Solutions/Armed-Assault-Multihack-35-for-108.shtml)
UnknownCheats (http://www.uc-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=367894)



was just gonna say, someone just pmed me letting me know it was on other cheat sites
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 13, 2007, 10:08:01 pm
It is on allot more sites than just those four listed...all of them with paid advert income.

Only TKC has no ad's,no donation button and is funded completely by staff.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: M. O. on September 13, 2007, 10:24:01 pm
We've got a donation button.  :wink2
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 14, 2007, 12:48:21 am
We've got a donation button.  :wink2

Really?
I never knew we moved out of the Stone Age!
I should look at the Main page more often.

Anyone use it yet?
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: MrMedic on September 14, 2007, 01:11:51 am
We've got a donation button.  :wink2

Really?
I never knew we moved out of the Stone Age!
I should look at the Main page more often.

Anyone use it yet?

lol sack him for not knowing :)
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 14, 2007, 02:29:11 am
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lol sack him for not knowing
Just don't take away my daily beer rations...or let me drink 9 pints of it in one siting again!
(http://stonecompanystore.com/product_images/abapint.jpg)
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: MrMedic on September 14, 2007, 03:01:36 am
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lol sack him for not knowing
Just don't take away my daily beer rations...or let me drink 9 pints of it in one siting again!
(http://stonecompanystore.com/product_images/abapint.jpg)

lol you headcase z ..
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 14, 2007, 06:43:31 am
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Something i read in the KFC forums, Seems they do intend to use there tools for Harming/Destroying hardware.

junker since you checked these forums out...

 what he meant is that every person on the server dies at once... that wont crash the server you just go so high on the map that you hit the ceiling and your "crushed". and then you respawn
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 14, 2007, 07:12:50 am
As far as I care they can talk about KFC all they want....I like fried chicken.  :icon_rolleyes2
Idiots....from the Mods on down.  :icon_razz2
The biggest joke (other than Placebo) are the compleat morons quoting cyber crime laws,none of which apply to TKC.
Such fools deserve a fascist like Placebo to edit their posts and ban anyone that does not praise BI.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 14, 2007, 07:28:14 am
on the KFC thing, the best part about the KFC thing is thats a (and possibly the) major group involved with sa-mp...


so now they are getting a bad rap
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 14, 2007, 07:24:34 pm
sorry to double post but...

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walker:
No If buts or maybes; its a crime to alter data on a server without the server owners permission. The server owner has merely to state that is the case.

dude, your a fucking moron, what data is anyone altering on the server, have you taken the time to look at the cheatpack, if that is altering the data on the server than every single stupid ass mod the arma community comes out with is illegal. you dolt

you obviously have no clue wtf hacking is in the first place... I can assure you it doesn't involve video games

I can't wait for november 5th

hell, if you guys could get your head so far out of BIs's ass you could see
A. you dont have to host a server for a game thats infested with cheaters due to lack of support
B. your a very small community, and theres millions of other ones out there, your not the first to cry like this and you wont be the last
C. its a fucking videogame, you dont like how its gone change games then
D. report as many of these videogame crimes as you can possibly get out of your fat mouth, and still no one cares because...
E. ITS A FUCKING VIDEOGAME
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: M. O. on September 14, 2007, 10:08:58 pm
Lol well folks, let them do and say what they want. If they are going to take any legal action I've got full confidence in that the police and lawyers are unbiased and actually follow the laws and the facts involved.

The whole incident gives me perspective on how people like Hitler get to power. The majority always thinks it's right even if they count 3 for 1+1.

The morning of the 6th of november will make them realize they've been stuck in cages their entire lives.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Avatar on September 14, 2007, 10:58:10 pm
whats happening on the 5/6th?
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 14, 2007, 11:03:36 pm
Some people get older but not wiser:

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LOL this is the Gathering's all over again. I recall KFC from Pterodon's Vietcong, where they also assigned a PRdude to spread misinformation to discourage company and gamers alike from taking action. They tried to undermind the anti-cheat development, by impersonating active members and crashing servers in their name. And when they got deply infiltrated, the laugh was finally on them for a change.

They do like the fame and it's obvious they're also present in this thread.
 

I was one of the few people that kept VC alive for as long as it was.
a) Ended the constant spam on Gathering of Developers.
b) Helped more people with hard/software issues to get their game going than the Mod for the tech section.
c) Helped admin the Black Watch servers as well as an officer.
d) CURRANTLY admin the only 50 player server which bans cheaters.

The day you kicked me from the GoD forums and I posted my disgust over it here was the downfall of Gathering of Developers as the forum was closed in -less than- a handfull of months.

Gathering is gone.
Pterodon is gone.
United Admin gave up.
People on the BOD for Take Two are gone.

TKC not only lives on but "new and improved".

Pterodon closed it's company VC server because unlike what Andrew Killham (aka Fate) ,yourself and others claimed (or outright lied to the public about) your anticheat system did NOTHING to stop ANY of the cheats made by TKC for more than an hour or two.

The very week it was posted that Pterodon closed as a company ALL the hacks/cheats that you claimed "success" at stopping were used non stop on the company's own 50 player server until even with a ARMY of admin they decided to close it in utter shock and shame.

Flying,ammo,wallhacks,passing threw rocks/walls/trees,speedhack,aimbots,under map,outside map,invisible....any thing and everything....just as I stated existed while you and other company shills called me a liar.

Well I have a news flash for you:
If BI allows it's employees,Mods and people using it's forum to keep posting false information about TKC crashing servers,or telling people to file FALSE police reports...it will end up regretting it...this much I am certain of.

Z

PS:
Too bad the fascists at BI won't let you say TKC and substitute KFC (another cheating group) because it makes your post look like more of a falsehood than what it is.
Try posting facts rather than company shill propaganda.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 14, 2007, 11:05:28 pm
whats happening on the 5/6th?

Don't they teach you Brittish history in school anylonger?. :icon_devil
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Avatar on September 15, 2007, 01:51:08 am
errr. Guy fawkes night? what has that got to do with us lol?
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 15, 2007, 06:17:44 am
On September the 9th Z said:
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If you have an issue with TKC and the people who host it...send your complaints to me and I will drop them in the bin after laughing at them.
As long as I see no problem with TKC in regards to law here in the USA they will keep getting high daily bandwith at cut rate prices.

Z

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Z said:
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Official game forums are filled with anti-cheaters bitching about TKC...
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x89/FIDDYOWNZ/pitchforkachievement.gif)

On September the 11th Lockie sent a complaint to "TKC's host" @ near midnight my local time.
When I showed up on September the 12th we went right to work on his complaint:
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09/12/2007 7:39 AM EDT  Ticket Created 
09/12/2007 7:41 AM EDT  Resolved

I am sorry that it took so long to deal with this and for faster service just PM me here on the forum next time because I don't work at night.

Z
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 15, 2007, 07:43:17 am
 :icon_laugh :icon_magician
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 15, 2007, 08:59:01 am
Lol, Lockie get owned as usual  :icon_laugh
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 15, 2007, 07:18:32 pm
Yea it took under 2 -full- minutes for Sonja to type and send the reply to him while we laughed our ass's off.

Ticket Created is when we start the reply.
Resolved is when we remove it from active status.

When managment looks into it...I read it and place it in the bin. :icon_devil
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: XX55XX on September 15, 2007, 08:20:28 pm
I don't even play ArmA nor do I plan to, but all these posts in the BIS forums (especially the lawsuit thread) is really cracking me up...

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Remember Remember the 5th of November
An action day where lots of people ask the police what is happening with the cases that have already been reported and lots of people CC their letters/emails to their local political representatives and the media raises the profile of the crime.

The police will largely ignore such. There are many more crimes out there with more gravitas than BS like "illegally modifying electronic data" that the police need to solve. Like money-laundering, drug dealing, murder, etc. And they can't even solve them all. November 5th will come and go, with no action on anyone's part.

If no servers are crashed, I doubt if the cheaters are breaking the law here. The cheaters in ArmA seem to largely using client-based scripts that BIS so foolishly allowed into the multiplayer aspect of ArmA. Those are hardly illegal.

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Raising the profile of the crime in these ways makes the police want to deal with the crime because like anyone they follow the path of least resistance.

I see. So where will that come from? "Hello, 911, I've come to report a crime. Some assholes are cheating in a video game called ArmA on my server. Please send someone over right away."

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Having letters from different Game Developers and Publishers asking what is happening with the reported crime raises the profile with the police. The games industry is the biggest of the entertainment industries.

I doubt if BIS will report anything to Interpol. Most of their revenue actually comes from military contracts, not commercial video games. I doubt if any of the publishers of ArmA really care. BIS has yet to respond to cheating/hacking in their games. Cheating hardly affects the revenue of the video game industry, as people will still continue to buy video games, and play them however they want.

As for other companies with video games where hacking/cheating is common, they simply leave it up to VAC and Punkbuster.

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The games industry can also lodge an Amicus curiae brief in support of any cases; this along with the TK/Cheater/heckleers own Youtube videos, fraps and witness statements from gamers, hard drive images taken from the TK/Cheater/heckleers impounded computers, the hard drive images taken from the TK/Cheater/heckleers website supporters and organisers impounded computers; all provide a weight of evidence that will drown the TK/Cheater/heckleers in their own criminal actions.

Where is this "evidence" coming from? Out of thin air? Will the police seriously launch expensive raids into the homes of suspected cheaters and confiscate their hard drives? Will the police even seriously actually take a look at server logs and call it evidence of a crime?

This "walker" guy is either trolling, because he is upset of the cheating, or he is a real idiot. I tend to think of the former.

Not even most of the anti-cheaters believe in his BS.

Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 15, 2007, 09:01:36 pm
You need to understand that Walker "claimed" to have took two years of class and did voluntary work...it clearly did him no good as he neither has a licence to practice law -nor- do those he did free work for want him around!
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: M. O. on September 15, 2007, 09:30:50 pm
They are free to report anything they want. They are referring to laws that don't apply to what we do, and think they are correct by wishful thinking and false assumptions. All the lies in their forum and other threats (of violence) sent to us could be classed as harassment of a minority. And the Bohemia Forum and its mods support it. That's a crime, a real crime for that matter too.

Some of them claim that money is lost. Might as well be so. But it doesn't make it less legal. It's not our job to make their money increase. Maybe they should outlaw competition too? BIS will lose revenues due to OFP2 and is already doing this due to other games on the market. But there are definately cases where people buy games just because of the public cheats and capabilities related to it (as seen here).

As the admin of this page I consider myself to have enough experience and knowledge of both what the law says in matters concerning what we do here and that what we do is alright according to it.

The only viable option in my opinion would be to make new laws against cheating and assign a part of the police department to it. It would be comparable to a small clique of spoiled kids who get to play hide their way only, under police protection. While the rest got to obey like slaves. I also don't feel it's worth the increased tax that would imply. And after that the situation would still look like the piracy situation on the net.

walker, our own Don Quixote, is just another foolish shepherd on a crusade against the windmills of evil. And the sheep follow him.
If taken seriously, he doesn't know what he's talking about. If you read his posts you'll find something else too.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 15, 2007, 10:21:45 pm
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All the lies in their forum and other threats (of violence) sent to us could be classed as harassment of a minority. And the Bohemia Forum and its mods support it. That's a crime, a real crime for that matter too.

Read post #82 in this thread to/about Dallas and BI allowing  posts dealing with false claims of server crashing and BI emploies allowing people to urge fileing false crime reports.
Now that places BI at risk as a company.

With the return of Placebo fascism again rules BI.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: XX55XX on September 16, 2007, 03:13:10 am
Well, we will see how this goes. November 5th will come and go.

They can't seriously calculate the so-called "monetary loss" of this "cheating", can't they? How many servers have been crashed through this cheat? At least a few, but it's not that hard for a server to come right back up.

Even though I lack a law degree or anything of that sort, I seriously doubt if the police will really check up on this. I've personally harassed people on the Internet myself, and have been legally threatened at times, but the most they could do was cut off my ISP service and force me to shop for another ISP. Even on Xbox Live, there are so many trash talkers throwing racial slurs all about, and yet, not even Microsoft bans these people from their service, despite the ToS, which seems to prohibit this sort of behavior.

Some people (people I've harassed on MySpace and such) claimed to have even filed a complaint to the FBI in order to get them to arrest me. That has yet to even happen! And it has been almost nine months since I've been addressed with that threat! The same will happen here. What this walker fellow is saying is fantasy. No laws are being broken here at all.

Cheating is not even the same as Internet harassment. The interpretation of the so-called "laws" that this walker cites are open. Laws regarding the Internet are still in their infancy.

Eventually, I can easily see this walker person eventually dropping this and playing Crysis instead when that comes out in November. I think it's time to move on from such childishness. I find this really silly. "ZOMG WE R GOING 2 FILEE A LAWS00T AGANST J00 CH3ATING ASSHOLES LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!"

Amazing that people take cheating in a video game so seriously. I can understand if and when real money is actually being lost (like when a business is constantly getting their servers DoS'd, thus preventing them from doing business and making money), but this is really, really, extreme. A purported lawsuit over cheating in a video game. Which isn't even really cheating, but simply using client-based commands and scripts that were already available.

Sorry from the long post, but these things I find incredibly funny...
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: M. O. on September 16, 2007, 04:15:18 am
Well, everything can be calculated. But their idea about less-profit => against the law is flawed from the beginning. No servers get crashed either. And the SCP is definately not designed to crash servers. We can't be responsible for what some users _might_ do according to anti-cheaters. That would be like outlawing windows because it can be used for malicious purposes.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 16, 2007, 04:54:00 am
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How many servers have been crashed through this cheat?
None...TKC has no such program for crashing servers on it's site.
Those making such claims are lying out their ass about it while BI and it's workers take the liability.

November 5th will be a day to remember but not for the reasons Walker wishes.  :icon_devil

BI's QC addon will be on P2P for all to d/l soon ( just over a week) as well so fight fascism by downloading rather than buying from them!  :icon_thumbsup
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: MrMedic on September 16, 2007, 07:17:31 am
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How many servers have been crashed through this cheat?
None...TKC has no such program for crashing servers on it's site.
Those making such claims are lying out their ass about it while BI and it's workers take the liability.

November 5th will be a day to remember but not for the reasons Walker wishes.  :icon_devil

BI's QC addon will be on P2P for all to d/l soon ( just over a week) as well so fight fascism by downloading rather than buying from them!  :icon_thumbsup

it does not matter if you crash or anything else the only time you can get prosicuted is if you cause loss of data intentionally.....

i have crashes played with owned 100#s of dickweeds in my time and not once have i ever been prosicuted for it , its it too much expense and too much hardship , dont worry about it , and half of the time the police are too busy with other stuff anyway to care.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 16, 2007, 06:02:17 pm
omg they got our mug shots... not from stickam tho, its our private vidchat , stickam is when we update our personal

 lololol

(http://www.dedicatedamericansex.com/pics/lolmugshots.JPG)

they still didnt get my pretty face tho (its not that hard to find)
im the cute little black guy in my avatar

i figured i would add gary's face to the mix to with a little msg

(http://www.dedicatedamericansex.com/pics/gajjjrycop2yjj7wi9.png)

(http://www.dedicatedamericansex.com/pics/murder.JPG)

oh heres the pic he got our faces from... wonder why he couldnt find me im pretty obvios

http://myg0t.com/d3/d3/funnies/wehighandcrunked.JPG  <-- had to link the image wont show using  myg0t hosting

as you can see i aint no little boy, so if someone wants to come see me around my town, you better either have a full beer to down, or some friends depending on what you wanna do.

(http://drunkenvidchat.com/pics/d3.gif)
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 16, 2007, 08:09:23 pm
Here is a picture of the KFC leader!
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/7094/12ceo8.jpg
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 16, 2007, 08:19:05 pm
So not only does the BI forum have idiots that think they know about Law,wanna be for programmers,fascists for Mods but also lying seal clubbers for spy's.

Interesting.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 16, 2007, 08:22:08 pm
The leader of KFC says "Remember remember the 5th of November".
(http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/7094/12ceo8.jpg)
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Doolittle on September 19, 2007, 04:16:30 am
What also remembers is Google and other stuff that captures everything from here to the end of the world. Aren't you guys worried about all this "evidence" that's being captured each day of your wrong-doings? Don't you consider, years from now, when you try to apply for that Orphanage Manager position, you will get denied because they realize you are morally deficient?
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 19, 2007, 04:33:58 am
What also remembers is Google and other stuff that captures everything from here to the end of the world. Aren't you guys worried about all this "evidence" that's being captured each day of your wrong-doings? Don't you consider, years from now, when you try to apply for that Orphanage Manager position, you will get denied because they realize you are morally deficient?

Why would anyone put their internet alias on their resume?
It wouldn't surprise me if you wanted to be a manager of an orphanage just so you could DooLittle kids.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: M. O. on September 19, 2007, 11:46:54 am
"Morally deficient". You're again comparing real life with game actions. Oh no, he shot guys in a computer game - he's morally deficient. According to my "morale" it's completely right to do so.

What we do here promotes knowledge, and that is more or less a merit in most branches.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 19, 2007, 05:51:13 pm
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Why would anyone put their internet alias on their resume?
It wouldn't surprise me if you wanted to be a manager of an orphanage just so you could DooLittle kids.

touche!
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Doolittle on September 19, 2007, 10:10:31 pm
You might not put your alias on your resume, but someone else might post your real name next to your alias.

Employers are looking up people's names online to see what they've been up to. Like their MySpace page or whatever.

In fact, why not post your real name if you feel so right about your actions?

You understand people are coming here and saying, "Please stop this, you are being a pain and causing us grie f." If that alone doesn't make you stop then the situation is hopeless, unless BIS gets their act together or the good guys can find a way to kick out all cheaters.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 19, 2007, 10:35:23 pm
You might not put your alias on your resume, but someone else might post your real name next to your alias.

Employers are looking up people's names online to see what they've been up to. Like their MySpace page or whatever.
Lol, this is getting kinda stupid now.

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In fact, why not post your real name if you feel so right about your actions?
The same reason why most people never put their personal information on the internet.

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You understand people are coming here and saying, "Please stop this, you are being a pain and causing us grie f." If that alone doesn't make you stop then the situation is hopeless, unless BIS gets their act together or the good guys can find a way to kick out all cheaters.
The last time I got told to "please stop cheating" was on an ArmA server and I did stop. I actually left shortly after bidding everyone a good game. It goes to show that sometimes being nice and polite can actually get you things.

Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 20, 2007, 05:54:45 am
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Aren't you guys worried about all this "evidence" that's being captured each day of your wrong-doings?

Wrong doing?
What wrong doing?

"Evidence" is something that is shown in court and I fail to see any crime or base for a tort suit.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: bando on September 20, 2007, 08:28:04 pm
rofl i would love to hear of a international court suit for cheating on a open server.
tell me asap when it happens , i ll make sure to take vacations to see it.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 20, 2007, 08:51:56 pm
(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8325/hahafu6.jpg)




lol i can so see "The International Online War Crimes Court" opening up next to the Hague  :icon_laugh

I put it to the jury that on Sept 19 the defendent known as TKC Wesker dropped multiple M1A1 battle tanks on this fellow team mates.....

FFS get a life

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The last time I got told to "please stop cheating" was on an ArmA server and I did stop. I actually left shortly after bidding everyone a good game. It goes to show that sometimes being nice and polite can actually get you things.

anti cheaters are so rude even when your being nice, you give them a little promotion in evo and the verbal abuse is shocking in some cases !
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Crossmol on September 20, 2007, 11:48:37 pm
lol i can so see "The International Online War Crimes Court" opening up next to the Hague  :icon_laugh

I put it to the jury that on Sept 19 the defendent known as TKC Wesker dropped multiple M1A1 battle tanks on this fellow team mates.....

I'll bring my camera to shoot the footage. Only a 15 minutes drive for me  :icon_biggrin2
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 20, 2007, 11:54:24 pm
TKC Wesker dropped multiple M1A1 battle tanks on this fellow team mates.....
Lol, that was hilarious. Even the pilot that got flattened was laughing.
"I do not regret doing it Your Honour"
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: MrMedic on September 21, 2007, 05:22:02 pm
TKC Wesker dropped multiple M1A1 battle tanks on this fellow team mates.....
Lol, that was hilarious. Even the pilot that got flattened was laughing.
"I do not regret doing it Your Honour"

lol ..
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 28, 2007, 06:20:47 pm
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bratty:
I have no time to waste either..I just took on a 3rd shift job asides till running my own business.
I been just downloading some SP missions and tinkering here and there.
And I am sure Bis is concerned
What gets me is that Arma players are mostly a different breed, I have met some real smart people and the people that are interested in games like Arma are different.
They are going to mess with the wrong people at some point ...like me.
I've considering hopping on IRC and recruiting some ol friends of mine. Some takeover groups that would shutdown these webpages and kill the perps connections,could get nasty.I know how it works.It will catch up to them in time.
I'm gathering info's (pm me info please)
Their is always someone better and they are messing with wrong crowd.I know more experienced people.Just hate to use them.In the past problem stopping them too.

well bratty since you're not the first to say this and surely not the last, I'll help you out in the future

saying ill go get my friends on the net to go fuck someone elses shit up, doesnt sound all that tough
its actually laughable bc guess what, we know the same "type" of people and I don't need to log into irc to get them I'm already doing it daily.
your more than welcome to come check it out if you even know how to use it
guess what else, they don't just go fucking with other groups like tkc or myg0t for very simple reasons, we play back and online embarrassment for some isn't an option. Luckily I and most of us dont give a shit... its just the internet

second, you've already discussed illegal activities on their behalf on a public forum... good job man, now they are really gonna want to help

third you're completely full of shit, so prove me wrong :icon_cool2

take your i-net tough guy attitude back to arma where it belongs... in a game
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 28, 2007, 06:44:41 pm
 :icon_laugh
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: bando on September 28, 2007, 07:21:17 pm
sounds like a e-side e-thug  warning

[img=http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7181/crips02ue4.th.jpg] (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crips02ue4.jpg)
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 28, 2007, 10:10:51 pm
Bratty is a liar and has no such friends,in fact he has -no- friends at all other than his right hand.

I could imagine it now if it did happen:
All servers/websites/clan pages involved along with BI for allowing such posts all suffer the same -FATE- (that's a pun son!) as Pterodon,only this time myg0t members add to the fun!
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: XX55XX on September 29, 2007, 03:10:39 am
I believe that they are all full of shit.

It's easy to bullshit anything these days. Just read Harry Frankfurt's "On Bullshit".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_bullshit

These people know that November 5th will come and go... They merely deluding themselves that they have connections with the authorities and the police... when they have even less connections than your average high school kid with a 4.0 GPA.

I can't believe that these people do not wish to admit defeat and move on to other games with decent cheat protection. But then again, propaganda always stirs the soul - at least until it is revealed to be false.

Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 29, 2007, 03:29:55 am
What do they expect website attacks are going to do against TKC?
Do they think TKC will be gone just because the site is temporarily down?

All it will do is provoke a bigger reaction.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 29, 2007, 03:32:21 am
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These people know that November 5th will come and go...

Oh it will however what -happens- on November 5th will be more in keeping with the reason the day came about in the first place.

A day of riot and revolt while freemen rise up together!
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 29, 2007, 03:38:13 am
What do they expect website attacks are going to do against TKC?
Do they think TKC will be gone just because the site is temporarily down?

All it will do is provoke a bigger reaction.

Anything that effects hosting comes to my attention.
First I have the offending IP's blocked and then have an official complaint to such hosting company's sent from my office.

Remember last week how fast I dealt with the complaints from AU?
Less than two minutes to close that case file.  :icon_thumbsup

As long as this site does not violate US law I will see to it that it keeps getting special hosting rates and bandwith.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 29, 2007, 03:32:55 pm
I've never seen so much bs come from one forum

or let alone one game with so few people

so who is getting queens gambit?
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 29, 2007, 11:01:43 pm
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so who is getting queens gambit?
It's been on the internet via torrent for some time already.
The non-cloned version came out 2 days ago:
http://tkc-community.net/forum/index.php?topic=6770.0
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on October 03, 2007, 07:01:10 pm
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walker:
We need to speak to police on how they want the evidense presenting. Usualy they will want a sworn afidavit where you swaear the relevant log files such as packet sniffer files in to evidense as being a true and acurate record. They will want Nutty_101's explanation of what his tools do basicly his technical readme put into laymens language.

lol the "e-police" dont need it in lamens terms unless its just some cop
and by the time the "e-police" figures out its only a game your actually talking about they are gonna be pissed

I'm assuming you made it sound like someone was actually attacking your server and probably never even mentioned it was a game (that no one plays)
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Easy_tiger on October 03, 2007, 09:20:19 pm
so who is getting queens gambit?


picked it up today  :icon_biggrin2
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: XX55XX on October 03, 2007, 11:59:05 pm
This walker person is an idiot. What he is trying to achieve is actually impossible on legal terms.

No servers are actually being crashed, and when you mention that it's about a video game, the case will be thrown out of court.

I can understand why people are trying to crack down on cheating in MMOs, largely because real money is actually involved, but in a first person shooter game? How stupid.

I admire the attempts to curb cheating that have been set out by people like Doolittle or Nutty, who are more realistic in their approaches, but apparently this walker person is taking the anti-cheating movement to another level... Filing false reports via the internet to get attention from law enforcement? Bullshiting the community with vague legal terms and obscure laws that not even walker himself actually understands?

That is morally questionable.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Nutty101 on October 04, 2007, 01:01:57 am
This walker person is an idiot. What he is trying to achieve is actually impossible on legal terms.
   I have said it to em over and over. Dunno some people seem to think the law will help. WOO! Yeah, whatever. No one is forging anything to the server so far as i know so that is out of the question.

I admire the attempts to curb cheating that have been set out by people like Doolittle or Nutty, who are more realistic in their approaches, but apparently this walker person is taking the anti-cheating movement to another level... Filing false reports via the internet to get attention from law enforcement? Bullshiting the community with vague legal terms and obscure laws that not even walker himself actually understands?

That is morally questionable.

Gotta love the legal advice. What i am doing could be seen as worse than the cheats to some people. Cause i do modify the game on one program and some other items will modify the packets. So I guess everyone should go after me. Laugh.. People just need to get their heads on straight. It's a game if you don't like what is going on then learn how to help solve the issues. Everyone has the resources and ability to learn. Oh well eh.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on October 04, 2007, 03:23:06 am
People just need to get their heads on straight. It's a game if you don't like what is going on then learn how to help solve the issues. Everyone has the resources and ability to learn. Oh well eh.
I have to agree with you here. I'm not really gonna say anymore about this law crap because I'd only be repeating things that we've already covered.

The sooner the people on BIS forum shake off their false sense of police protection the better for them really. Less tears when all their efforts amount to nothing.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Nutty101 on October 04, 2007, 03:44:06 am
People just need to get their heads on straight. It's a game if you don't like what is going on then learn how to help solve the issues. Everyone has the resources and ability to learn. Oh well eh.
I have to agree with you here. I'm not really gonna say anymore about this law crap because I'd only be repeating things that we've already covered.

The sooner the people on BIS forum shake off their false sense of police protection the better for them really. Less tears when all their efforts amount to nothing.

sadly though for a few over there I don't see that happening.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: XX55XX on October 04, 2007, 06:33:01 am
Meh, we'll see in a month.

I'm not going to repeat myself anymore, but I will note that either that Walker guy is delusional, or maybe he is simply trolling because he is angry at the lack of efforts from BIS to curb cheating.

But anyways, life will go on...
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Easy_tiger on October 04, 2007, 05:55:04 pm
Oh btw Nutty nice work on your sniffer/firewall thats a fine app you've built.

w00t?? the forum readers shout! lol

Seriously though its a nice idea and well implemented, I just hope no over zealous admins misread whats being logged and ban innocent users lol. We both know that it wont catch EVERYTHING but i can see it being effective in preventing the more destructive cheats getting thru

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Gotta love the legal advice. What i am doing could be seen as worse than the cheats to some people. Cause i do modify the game on one program and some other items will modify the packets. So I guess everyone should go after me. Laugh.. People just need to get their heads on straight. It's a game if you don't like what is going on then learn how to help solve the issues. Everyone has the resources and ability to learn. Oh well eh.

good god man watch what your saying, it wouldnt surprise me if a few fickle members of the BIS forum DO turn you if they come here and read that lol  :icon_razz2


Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on October 04, 2007, 06:47:55 pm
would it really be that bad if they did?

Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Easy_tiger on October 04, 2007, 07:06:54 pm
lol it wud be bad for them   :icon_laugh Especially if they pushed Nutty over to our side  :icon_biggrin2
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on October 04, 2007, 07:35:20 pm
I really could never understand how people could enjoy those forums

arguing over how a soldier hits the dirt while running for pages and pages (i did my time with the military and its never the same thing). the animations arent even close anyway

the addiction to BIS was a discusting trait of so many of their users, I had no clue why

mods  :icon_cool2

infact the only sections worth checking out was the user missions and now the multiplayer (thx walker, victor, and arma vids "my favorite little stalker")

You would be suprised who cheats in arma anyway, with the modding ability people can add anything they want like radar in tanks for vehicles and people, keeping the engine off while using the turret, increased bullet speed, better sights, color changing crosshairs, no reload...

I think it would be hilarious if nutty got his tool well enough made to see who is doing the above "skills" cheats,  buti got a feeling tho someone is gonna start bitching about its legality.

It is nice to see that another person over there has realised that lawsuits and crimes against our type of gamers is a joke. ever since i foun online gaming on the pc i have been the same way. its a videogame, sometimes harrassing the shit out of someone and getting away with it is what i feel like doing.  it is only a game not irl

Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Doolittle on October 04, 2007, 10:14:58 pm
I just realized you people that cheat are also the name callers and bullies at school. The ones who say, "It's only words, I'm not hurting you."

So I say again: yes, it's a game. But you're annoying and need to stop cheating. Thanks! Glad we agree and it's all fixed now.

Note, please don't read my sig. That doesn't count.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Nutty101 on October 04, 2007, 10:51:16 pm
Oh btw Nutty nice work on your sniffer/firewall thats a fine app you've built.

w00t?? the forum readers shout! lol

Seriously though its a nice idea and well implemented, I just hope no over zealous admins misread whats being logged and ban innocent users lol. We both know that it wont catch EVERYTHING but i can see it being effective in preventing the more destructive cheats getting thru

Quote
Gotta love the legal advice. What i am doing could be seen as worse than the cheats to some people. Cause i do modify the game on one program and some other items will modify the packets. So I guess everyone should go after me. Laugh.. People just need to get their heads on straight. It's a game if you don't like what is going on then learn how to help solve the issues. Everyone has the resources and ability to learn. Oh well eh.

good god man watch what your saying, it wouldnt surprise me if a few fickle members of the BIS forum DO turn you if they come here and read that lol  :icon_razz2




Yeah, there is no way to catch it all. Really all I am trying to do is stop the map destroying cheats. Rest the stuff ehh I don't really care all that much. We can't stop the wallhacks and other junk, I am leaving that to the dev's or someone else.

At first when i did DSTS people thought i was trying to help cheat. Laugh, if that was the case then why did i add all the extra features so admins could really lock the tool down. Whatever, my latest stuff will not modify the game outside one plugin that might not ever surface anyway due to it changing packets. So if people want to make a big deal with it then woohoo! Laugh.

Funny part is when Wow was in beta i had written two bots for gold farming and then started playing with teleporting and what not. But i got banned and was bored out of my gord with that stupid game anyway. So i quit gaming until Arma and decided to try and make an MMO with it. Then the cheating got so bad i was like umm yeah this isnt gonna work. heh
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Easy_tiger on October 05, 2007, 02:00:12 pm
The thought of a ArmA MMO sounds very interesting (if done properly of course), I reckon you shouldnt give up so quick on that one!

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I think it would be hilarious if nutty got his tool well enough made to see who is doing the above "skills" cheats,  buti got a feeling tho someone is gonna start bitching about its legality.

Lol so what do ya say Nutty?  Would be funny to see a few high profile 'anti-cheaters' caught out especially now ArmA competition ladders are emerging. 

Of course you have to avoid the community turning on you first over the 'legality' of DSTS :icon_rolleyes2. If that happens then i think you'll understand why we are over here and they are over there.......

p.s watch out for Walker, it wouldnt surprise me if he tries to discredit you and/or your tools  in light of you not agreeing with his deluded campaign  :icon_thumbsup
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on October 05, 2007, 05:16:34 pm
watch out its walker the guy whose not even a lawyer telling everyone whats legal and what isn't

that guy is the biggest joke i doubt he even realises that everyone else doesnt

A) give a rats ass about his 5th of november

B) think anything any of the cheaters have done have broken any laws

he keeps pointing out the exact laws for cyber crime but have yet to once show anyone which one we've broken

typical moron wanting to bring the law into something bc a company wont do it for him...

Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on October 06, 2007, 06:48:07 am
I just realized you people that cheat are also the name callers and bullies at school.

I cheat (but not in fair contests).
I never called people names (unless they are descriptive and true).
Perhaps because:
I was bullied in school due to my easy going attitude...until I got fed up and kicked the ass of each schools toughest bully AND all his piss ant followers often at the same encounter.
I had to repeat this in each school and grade...and every few years after school.
I took up martial arts and in my youth (I am 72) was also an instructor.

My father/uncles all fought Fascists and I hate that mindset with a passion if on a global or locale scope.
I follow that same mindset both in front of me or on a political level.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Doolittle on October 06, 2007, 09:03:56 pm
ZOldDude, you don't see cheaters as being like bullies? I remember earlier I said I had played a game and someone came on, locked all our keyboards up and left. Another time someone had come on and blown the whole island up after we had played a mission for a few hours. This kind of behavior is just bullying. And you support it? You've joined the wrong side in your fight for freedom from rules. Cheaters are picking on the wrong people if they think they are trying to fight some crusade against game laws. Leave the innocent every-day game players alone and let them have fun without interruption.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: bando on October 06, 2007, 09:50:32 pm
in this case , you are the bully doolittle!
not letting players having fun the way the want by dictating a server and trying to make some crap program to stop them!
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: M. O. on October 06, 2007, 10:11:27 pm
Bando is right.

And didn't you, Doolittle, say we were the ones who were bullied earlier? Now we're bullies too.  :icon_biggrin2 It's true that what you say with locked keyboards etc may happen, but it's very rare. That's the price for and effects of freedom.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: fartface on October 06, 2007, 10:28:26 pm
God you really do speak a load of shit!  I just cant help getting over how much crap you do speak, its the biggest pile of shit i have heard since Blair was given the job of middle east peace envoy!  Hahahaha you guys are seriously fucked up beyond belief!  Do you seriously believe the shit you are going on about?  Lets put this in big letters for you, as you really cant understand









 WE THE ARMA COMMUNITY DONT WANT YOU WANKERS FUCKING OUR GAMES UP, YOU ARE NOT WELCOME ON OUR SERVERS

 Hope thats clear enough for ya   :icon_laugh
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on October 06, 2007, 11:22:58 pm
Dearest fartface,
Learn to live with it!
Hope thats clear enough for ya...fool.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: fartface on October 06, 2007, 11:47:51 pm

Hope thats clear enough for ya...fool.

How about you aint getting on no arma servers now fool

Hahaha i love it!
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on October 06, 2007, 11:54:56 pm

Hope thats clear enough for ya...fool.

How about you aint getting on no arma servers now fool

Hahaha i love it!


How about you back that statment up...somehow.

I play when and where I wish and nobody that runs the server(s) bothers me.
Then again I don't bother them.

If you want just ask the guys that run the RN servers or the guy that rents those servers out to people...they all have my IP both from game,TS and forums.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: XX55XX on October 07, 2007, 12:25:41 am
Doolittle, no one is right here, nor is anyone wrong. It's opinion. Maybe cheating is wrong, but cheating = fun, right? So why do you try and limit our fun? We are limiting no one's fun here, it's just that you are limiting your own sense of fun.

If you feel that your fun is being ruined, why don't you download the SCP and give it a spin? Maybe it might give you more fun than coding crappy anti-cheats for no salary for the developers (or so you claim to).
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on October 07, 2007, 12:39:34 am
Dearest fartface,
Learn to live with it!
Hope thats clear enough for ya...fool.

I forgot to add that everyone in the TKC ArmA section are also "we the ArmA community" and they will cheat if you like it or not.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: bando on October 07, 2007, 02:22:19 am
Dearest fartface

rofl
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on October 07, 2007, 07:17:21 pm
WE THE WANKERS DO NOT CARE IF WE ARE NOT WELCOME NOR DO WE CARE ABOUT YOUR SO CALLED COMMUNITY, IF YOU WANT TO STOP US FROM COMING INTO YOUR GAMES LOCK THE SERVER
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on October 07, 2007, 11:10:40 pm
WE THE WANKERS DO NOT CARE IF WE ARE NOT WELCOME NOR DO WE CARE ABOUT YOUR SO CALLED COMMUNITY, IF YOU WANT TO STOP US FROM COMING INTO YOUR GAMES LOCK THE SERVER
Or alternatively you can give us one hundred billion dollars.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: fartface on October 07, 2007, 11:33:29 pm
zzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: M. O. on October 08, 2007, 04:51:31 am
WE THE WANKERS DO NOT CARE IF WE ARE NOT WELCOME NOR DO WE CARE ABOUT YOUR SO CALLED COMMUNITY, IF YOU WANT TO STOP US FROM COMING INTO YOUR GAMES LOCK THE SERVER
Or alternatively you can give us one hundred billion dollars.

Yes. Those terms would be more than acceptable  :icon_laugh
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Doolittle on October 08, 2007, 05:25:47 am
Less talky talky, more ping pong!
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on October 08, 2007, 05:29:53 am
Less talky talky, more ping pong!
Oh!
I forgot I want that movie for my Xvid collection!
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: bando on October 08, 2007, 05:41:52 am
WE THE WANKERS DO NOT CARE IF WE ARE NOT WELCOME NOR DO WE CARE ABOUT YOUR SO CALLED COMMUNITY, IF YOU WANT TO STOP US FROM COMING INTO YOUR GAMES LOCK THE SERVER
Or alternatively you can give us one hundred billion dollars.

Yes. Those terms would be more than acceptable  :icon_laugh

rofl
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: d3dsh33p on October 10, 2007, 02:03:00 am
hahahayh bando thats an awesome avatar
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on October 10, 2007, 07:22:33 am
Yeah...a bit of nipple just before the photo flash always makes a nice "Kodak moment".
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: bando on October 10, 2007, 07:31:22 am
haha , thanks , i like it too :)
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Doolittle on October 10, 2007, 09:26:35 am
I can almost see ds's nipples.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: bando on October 10, 2007, 09:28:45 am
i am looking for some persons for a porn site , if you re interested Doolittle?
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on October 10, 2007, 10:51:04 am
i am looking for some persons for a porn site , if you re interested Doolittle?
I already have two year old templates for 17 "adult content" websites that I never put on-line because the US has an asshole for an Attorney General.
Now that the fascist has left office I will be putting up flyer's at the collages and universities around L.A. for "models,actors and other talent".

Because I can get hosting allot cheaper than most people/companies I will be breaking the 99 cent mold and only charge 49 cents per month for membership!
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: bando on October 10, 2007, 10:59:11 am
lol , in California , you have a lot of beautifull girls , won t be difficult fo find some
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on October 10, 2007, 11:19:11 am
Yeah we have the "Bay Watch" girls here in Santa Monica.
I was thinking more along the line of "talent" with -real- boobs rather than Pamela Anderson fake tits for my sites.

Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: bando on October 10, 2007, 01:29:54 pm
she used to be hot , she s starting to get old now
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on October 10, 2007, 08:04:25 pm
She has Hepatitis also...tramp.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: bando on October 11, 2007, 08:00:26 am
yes , she s kind of syphilitic
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on October 17, 2007, 06:45:11 am
From the lead programmer of ArmA:
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Maruk
ArmA Project Lead



Group: BI Forum Team
Posts: 520
Joined: June 2001  Posted: Oct. 16 2007,10:41 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Most detailed available information about usage of ArmA Dedicated Server software can be found at
ArmA Wiki Page

New beta of dedicated server for Windows version 1.08.5169 is available from
BI ftp server.

Quote 
5164  - Fixed: Handling of invalid keys on dedicated servers improved
5164  - Fixed: Signature verification timeout significantly relaxed.
5164  - Fixed: System audio mixer settings no longer changed by ingame volume options.
5164  - Fixed: Vehicle channel no longer transforms to a side channel when not in the vehicle.
5164  - Fixed: assignToAirport did the same as landAt. Now it assigns for purpose of future getout commands.
5164  - Fixed: MP: Player driving motorcycle could die suddenly with no apparent reason.
5164  - Fixed: Building ruins were not visible for JIP-ed players.
5164  - Improved: UI - better detection of focused buttons
5164  - Fixed: spinning in select() on Linux Dedicated Server
 
 

Note:
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5164  - Fixed: Handling of invalid keys on dedicated servers improved
As not ONE of the many publishers has posted/made public any range of keys/ID's they use let me be the first to wish you the best of luck.

Note that any range of cd-keys or game ID's effected will of course be circumvented withen an hour.

PS: You have a few spelling errors in your post.

Z
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: strykir on October 17, 2007, 06:06:56 pm
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5164  - Fixed: Handling of invalid keys on dedicated servers improved
As not ONE of the many publishers has posted/made public any range of keys/ID's they use let me be the first to wish you the best of luck.

Note that any range of cd-keys or game ID's effected will of course be circumvented withen an hour.
They probably just set it to block the obvious ones, like over 10 digits or something.
And you also have a spelling error, "withen"  :icon_razz2
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on October 17, 2007, 10:08:24 pm
Hmmm...spellchecker says it's good and an online seach shows both spellings for the same idea.
Must be like "color" is also spelled two ways in english.
Anyhow thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Easy_tiger on October 19, 2007, 01:32:20 pm
 :icon_laugh

check this thread out

http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?s=2da4e2c73b6002c853ab99c71108767c;act=ST;f=73;t=69165 (http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?s=2da4e2c73b6002c853ab99c71108767c;act=ST;f=73;t=69165)


The morons think the key check in the new dedi server works and now "means something"  :icon_rolleyes2

Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Junkz on October 19, 2007, 09:39:48 pm
Hmmm...spellchecker says it's good and an online seach shows both spellings for the same idea.
Must be like "color" is also spelled two ways in english.
Anyhow thanks for the tip.

UK = Colour
US = Color

;)
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Junkz on October 19, 2007, 09:41:33 pm
:icon_laugh

check this thread out

http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?s=2da4e2c73b6002c853ab99c71108767c;act=ST;f=73;t=69165 (http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?s=2da4e2c73b6002c853ab99c71108767c;act=ST;f=73;t=69165)


The morons think the key check in the new dedi server works and now "means something"  :icon_rolleyes2



Its means something until you can prove you can get passed it ;)
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on October 19, 2007, 10:18:33 pm
Hmmm...spellchecker says it's good and an online seach shows both spellings for the same idea.
Must be like "color" is also spelled two ways in english.
Anyhow thanks for the tip.

UK = Colour
US = Color

;)

Right.
One thing will always remain the same world round...a pint is a pint.
I think when I go into town to see what the casino has for lunch I will have a pint as well!  :wink2
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 01, 2008, 11:04:42 pm
Boy oh boy....new idiots to have some fun with!
(http://stgclan.eu/banlist/armabanlist_button.gif) (http://stgclan.eu/banlist/indexEN.php)
http://stgclan.eu/banlist/armabanlist_button.gif
http://stgclan.eu/banlist/indexEN.php


I hope they enjoy banning server owner and clan members ID#'s becuase that is all this list is...and it is easy to use another persons ID. :icon_laugh
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on March 19, 2009, 01:00:03 am
I have noticed a rash of people who don't want to log in reading this post in the past few weeks.
I wonder if this is an indication that ArmA2 is about to go Gold?
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: MrMedic on March 19, 2009, 01:22:05 am
lol its probably that if they play arma they cant find the login button m8 , i get some fast internet in ( quote 2 to 14 working days ) so it will be game on again soon thank god this dongle internet is making me scream ! .. 320 k download its laughable
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Bellend on April 18, 2009, 11:50:40 pm
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RELEASE
26th June 2009
http://505games.co.uk/Games.aspx?ID=128 (http://505games.co.uk/Games.aspx?ID=128)

Possible release date.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: Bellend on April 25, 2009, 09:12:02 pm
Now it says "To Be Announced". :icon_confused2
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: M. O. on April 26, 2009, 04:05:20 pm
It said end of may very recently at some german sites.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: MrMedic on April 26, 2009, 11:07:53 pm
Arma 2


Despatched in time for delivery on release day.

Release Date: 26/06/2009
Pre-order
61days to go!
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: ZOldDude on September 21, 2014, 06:11:19 am
Re-reading this post from 2007.
Rocket (leader of the BI project Day Z) from BI has joined this forum since that date and fully welcomed and respected.
Search for his posts.
Title: Re: BS Forums
Post by: gamer123 on October 11, 2014, 05:12:29 am
lol