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General Public Section => Off Topic => Section of Philosophy => Topic started by: Doolittle on August 28, 2007, 09:37:32 pm

Title: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Doolittle on August 28, 2007, 09:37:32 pm
Do you guys send your programs to BIS so that they can be warned of... problems with their game? And be given the chance to fix them?
Title: Re: SCP 1.0
Post by: M. O. on August 28, 2007, 10:00:38 pm
Nono, that's not our role. Other people, anti-cheaters, do that kind of terrible things.
Title: Re: SCP 1.0
Post by: Doolittle on August 28, 2007, 10:28:10 pm
I just know that some... security groups tell companies about issues with their software and give them a chance to fix it.
Title: Re: SCP 1.0
Post by: M. O. on August 28, 2007, 10:50:49 pm
Yea, but this is no security group. We're all about maximizing freedom, the necessity for unlimited fun and creativity. Soon ordinary users will be able to do whatever they want in MP for the first time in the history of multiplayer gaming.  :cheers

No bans, no admins, no rules, just loads of fun!
Title: Re: SCP 1.0
Post by: Evillor on August 28, 2007, 11:11:47 pm
Yea, but this is no security group. We're all about maximizing freedom, the necessity for unlimited fun and creativity. Soon ordinary users will be able to do whatever they want in MP for the first time in the history of multiplayer gaming.  :cheers

No bans, no admins, no rules, just loads of fun!

Amen to that.
Title: Re: SCP 1.0
Post by: Doolittle on August 28, 2007, 11:34:56 pm
Yes, well I'm sure the rapist has "fun" too... even as he clinks beer glasses and talks about no rules.
Title: Re: SCP 1.0
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on August 28, 2007, 11:52:30 pm
Yes, well I'm sure the rapist has "fun" too... even as he clinks beer glasses and talks about no rules.
That's a whole different ballpark. Rape is totally illegal, victims are often left traumatized from it.
How can freedom in a computer game and a real life rapist possibly be comparable?
Title: Re: SCP 1.0
Post by: M. O. on August 28, 2007, 11:58:49 pm
Yea, you have to be reasonable. We're talking about games here.
Title: Re: SCP 1.0
Post by: Doolittle on August 29, 2007, 12:01:25 am
Well, that is true. Wouldn't you agree though that your "fun" in a game might be reducing the "fun" for others?
Title: Re: SCP 1.0
Post by: eurofighter1 on August 29, 2007, 12:12:09 am
Have a look at there FAQ. It tells you about TKC and why they do it.
I have noticed in arma that people take it way to seriouse. So it can be fun to piss them off now and again lol.
BUT doesnt everyone agree that armed assault (well any game) will get boring at one point.
So add a few cheats / hacks into it can make it fun again.
IMO anyway lol
Title: Re: SCP 1.0
Post by: M. O. on August 29, 2007, 12:38:23 am
Well, this is no discussion about do's and don'ts in mp gaming (that is subject for another thread).

I'm very much aware that my fun might reduce the fun for others. But if we all were to think about the "common fun" in a game, then we all should stop shooting each other too, because it ain't fun to wait for spawn. We can talk, and sing merry songs instead! But hey, that will spoil the fun for some others... There's no universal solution. "Good" players "look" the same as cheats do to the other players. Same effect. Should we stop "good" players too, because they ruin the fun for others? I'm not the one to make sure all have fun. It's up to each and every person to decide and choose. Quit, or continue. The choice is free. There's no right or wrong when it comes to how a game _should_ be played.

But eurofighter speaks the truth.
Title: Re: SCP 1.0
Post by: Doolittle on August 29, 2007, 01:30:58 am
I apologize. I shouldn't have led you guys into monologuing. We've heard the Grand Statement before. I was just curious if you sent stuff off to BIS as I know they are currently working on a 1.09 version. Surely if they got a hold of your fun then all could have fun?
Title: Re: SCP 1.0
Post by: Evillor on August 29, 2007, 01:43:11 am
I apologize. I shouldn't have led you guys into monologuing. We've heard the Grand Statement before. I was just curious if you sent stuff off to BIS as I know they are currently working on a 1.09 version. Surely if they got a hold of your fun then all could have fun?

i just read your sig, you talk about respect. What about the people who dont want to play by "the rules", or want as much freedom as they can in a game. What about respecting those players, after all didnt they buy the game too?

Sending stuff into BIS would be counter-productive wouldnt it? spending all this time creating something for a game, then having it banned/blocked with a fast patch.

you have fun your way, others have fun theirs, if those clash then there always another server you can go to.
Title: Re: SCP 1.0
Post by: Doolittle on August 29, 2007, 02:21:22 am
The idea of going to another server... yes, I saw a server playing CTF but I like DM so I went to another server playing DM. Then I saw another server that said "No cheating allowed" so I went there because that's what I like, but for some odd, inexplicable reason there was cheating there! I was so shocked.

What kills me is this idea that it's morally okay to mess up other people's games. Would you not agree that everyone would be happy if there was designating cheating servers and a no-cheating servers. Then we could all go play the game the way we wanted with other people who wanted to play it the same.
Title: Re: SCP 1.0
Post by: M. O. on August 29, 2007, 02:42:34 am
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Surely if they got a hold of your fun then all could have fun?

Yea, that's our intention. All cheats will be released to the public when they are 100% done. There's no freedom if it isn't available for all.   :icon_thumbsup

Well, there are no cheating-servers. And some people might want to play with non-cheaters too. All players got to share their part of the sandbox.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: MrMedic on August 29, 2007, 04:44:54 pm
there is no way of stopping us doolittle so accept it and make the best out of a bad situation.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: d3dsh33p on August 29, 2007, 07:32:21 pm
they way i see if they make a shitty game and pass it on to me....


when i finally figure out that its shit, i typicly like to get my enjoyment out of fucking the game up

but to be fair i buy games so so i see it as mutual

they fucked me, i can do the same
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Doolittle on August 29, 2007, 11:17:32 pm
ds, why do you have to pass it on to us? Some people actually found the game acceptable. So you're saying you're not having fun at the party so you're going to make everyone else not have fun? You're going to spit in the punch bowl and break the stereo.. and then convince yourself it was okay because you paid $5 dollars at the door for a good time and didn't get it. Wouldn't it be much more reasonable.. productive.. morally good to write BIS about what you dislike, or to write a bad review, or to make a better game? I personally am writing up a CTI map that will make it a better game, in my mind. Plus, if you don't like the game, why continue to waste your time (and ours) by technically playing it?

MrM, I had thought maybe by talking it out reasonably with other human beings would make a dent. If there was a group that just said "we cheat and we know we're scum and it's wrong", then I wouldn't have bothered. But this group actually tries to make logical statements as to why they should be allowed to do what they do. If someone is reasoning like that then surely they wouldn't mind a little.. talk. MrM, also your avatar... something's wrong with it. Wouldn't the leg of the body lift away first, and then the whole body follow? I don't think rigamortis sets in that strongly.
Title: Re: SCP 1.0
Post by: ZOldDude on August 30, 2007, 02:20:58 am
Yes, well I'm sure the rapist has "fun" too... even as he clinks beer glasses and talks about no rules.

Get real.
Even -you- know that rape is a crime and cheating in a game is not so why bring up such an ass-backward idea while trying to make your piont?
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on August 30, 2007, 02:31:10 am
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working on a 1.09 version

Let them for all the good it will do as far as "cheating".

You do understand that according to the OFFICAL BI sales and product page that ArmA is STILL IN PRODUCTION.
Thats right fools....you all paid to become a beta tester.

My self I just never pay for software...and if it is a beta and they want my input on how to fix the game then they need to PAY me for that information.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: d3dsh33p on August 30, 2007, 06:27:12 pm
ds, why do you have to pass it on to us? Some people actually found the game acceptable. So you're saying you're not having fun at the party so you're going to make everyone else not have fun? You're going to spit in the punch bowl and break the stereo.. and then convince yourself it was okay because you paid $5 dollars at the door for a good time and didn't get it. Wouldn't it be much more reasonable.. productive.. morally good to write BIS about what you dislike, or to write a bad review, or to make a better game? I personally am writing up a CTI map that will make it a better game, in my mind. Plus, if you don't like the game, why continue to waste your time (and ours) by technically playing it?


hahahaha if only my wrath against arma was just against the developers, your forgetting the seriously screwed up community over there.

I helped make a few missions over there including a cti that most people would enjoy over others, but since the community is so closed minded we just wasted our time...

now im not wasting my time. join a server fuck it up, watch the little cry babies go complain about. job done, satisfaction at hand. also dont drag me or anyone else into these stupid fucking 3 page discusisons on something youll never understand.

if you really wanna know me take a look at the website i represent.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Doolittle on August 30, 2007, 10:20:12 pm
What CTI did you make?
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on August 30, 2007, 11:06:36 pm
if you really wanna know me take a look at the website i represent.
Word!
(http://www.newageempire.com/images/wurd.jpg)
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Evillor on August 30, 2007, 11:19:25 pm
In its current state, Arma IS just a beta. A beta which i paid in full for. I'm not going to walk away after paying my money because the game isn't finished. I am going to get my moneys worth out of it. If that means ruining servers, enjoying hearing people bitch and complain, then that has got me some satisfaction out of it.

If i went to some guys party, and it sucked, damn right id spit in the punch, throw up in a bed, piss on the couch and screw the guys mother, id say that was worth my 5$. Im creative enough to make my own fun out of something that just isnt fun. Thats the beauty of this world, i have total right to be an asshole if i wish, and the sooner you realize theres nothing you or anyone else can do about it, the sooner you will stop wasting your time.

If BIS gave everyone who wanted it a full refund, that would be a start, rather than making an expansion instead of fixing the game we already paid for. But as D3 said, its also the community. I was on a server last night with the multi hack, the admin is giving everyone shit about someone cheating, i kept quiet to see what was going to happen. Then i see the admin speedhack to the front lines. I said something and he replied "its my server, i can do what i want" and banned me. Quick ID change later and im back on and EVERYONE was speed hacking. It was so cool, carpet bombs and tower buildings (i guess it was my first look at the SCP in action :P)

Ill say again, i paid my money, if what I'm doing disrupts your enjoyment of the game, its tough shit. Deal with it. Because there is NOTHING you can do about it.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: [TKC]phranz on August 30, 2007, 11:28:58 pm
if you really wanna know me take a look at the website i represent.
Word!
(http://www.newageempire.com/images/wurd.jpg)


rofl  :icon_biggrin2
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: eurofighter1 on August 30, 2007, 11:50:08 pm
not sure if this is the correct place to post it so here goes anyway.

I was onj a server about 2 hours ago, went in and great no admin. So i start speed hacking and ran past a chopper and then...
"you have been kicked" message appeared. So its got me thinking, if u got SCP then how in the world do u find the admin and lock him?

BTW i didnt even know arma was in beta! ANOTHER bloody company who rips people off. MAN ill show them when i get SCP!!!!!!!

GREAT i posted in the wrong thread. srry  :icon_cry2
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on August 31, 2007, 12:01:16 am
not sure if this is the correct place to post it so here goes anyway.

I was onj a server about 2 hours ago, went in and great no admin. So i start speed hacking and ran past a chopper and then...
"you have been kicked" message appeared. So its got me thinking, if u got SCP then how in the world do u find the admin and lock him?

BTW i didnt even know arma was in beta! ANOTHER bloody company who rips people off. MAN ill show them when i get SCP!!!!!!!
What's likely to have happened there is
A player on the clans TS snitched on you to a server admin who was on TS too.
Then admin kicked you via the ArmA server remote console.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Doolittle on August 31, 2007, 12:25:45 am
Evillor, you're the first one in this thread who sounds beyond hope and reason... over the edge. It would be pointless to talk anything over with you, right? And I'm sure you're proud of that. If you did that physically at a party you would get popped in the face by everyone around you. It's called living with other people. Evillor "wins". Sorry you feel that way.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: d3dsh33p on August 31, 2007, 01:02:56 am
What CTI did you make?

id be more than happy to show you except i think the guy that did the scripting doesnt want to be affiliated with me...

not bc im a bad person but bc of the name that comes along

hers the run down

evolution style point system
full autonomous ai
3 working sides to play as
populated cities
car bombs
hire soldiers up to 30
large open scaled capture points or small close to each other captures you choose
persistant world that will never end

basicly non stop action and you dont have to have players to to play against or you can leave it running all day and the ai will change the game status while your gone

and it was all a big waste of time

we maybe had 6 people most at one time to play it with

its more fun to hack the shit out of this game, or maybe make a movie with

all the rest is a boring
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Evillor on August 31, 2007, 03:52:07 am
Evillor, you're the first one in this thread who sounds beyond hope and reason... over the edge. It would be pointless to talk anything over with you, right? And I'm sure you're proud of that. If you did that physically at a party you would get popped in the face by everyone around you. It's called living with other people.Evillor "wins". Sorry you feel that way.

I totally agree, apart from been popped in the face by everyone around. so really the only part i agree with is "Evillor wins". If the guy "popped" me in the face (can tell if you mean shoot me or hit me, but im going to assume you mean hit) then that would be more fun for the money (you dont earn the nickname "Evil" for being a choirboy, or are you one of those people who assume all cheaters are harry potter look-a-likes) . If the party was THAT bad im sure people would cheer me for brightening up the thing. They wouldnt give a fuck as it isnt their house or whatever :P

But your whole "at a party" analogy is flawed, hacking a game is nothing like ruining a party. Ive been to plenty of parties where someones gone too far. They get thrown out and its over (if someone dares to throw them out). Hacking a game and listening to people like you cry over it is way more fun.

Bottom line is, ive been screwing around on games for long enough to hear almost every possible reason or argument you could come up with to tell me im doing something wrong. and you are right, there is no point in talking it over with me as your not going to make me stop (although you are welcome to try).  But your also not going to make ANYONE on here, or any other cheating board stop. They find amusement in listening to you complain in the same way countless other have complained.

Cheaters are out there, they are everywhere. Get used to them. If you dont want them in your game, then make your own server, password it and only invite people you want to play. Problem solved.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Doolittle on August 31, 2007, 05:10:23 am
Well, I said everyone else at the party was having fun... so I was trying to say your antics, while fun for you, is taking fun away from everyone else.

Look at everything I've said, if you want. I don't want it to ever sound like crying or whining. I know that's what feeds you.

What my goal was... is.. yes, even though you've heard every argument... that doesn't mean your actions stop being wrong somehow. Even if you've found peace in your mind for what it is that you do, I just wanted to mention (once again) that it's wrong and shouldn't be done and stop doing it. It cannot be justified. It's ruining other people's party. Bottom line.

If that's what you like to do, I guess I can't stop you at the moment. But don't pretend you are expanding the game or punishing BIS or have any hint of righteousness in your actions. (Of course as I pointed out before, you're the one person who doesn't seem to think that. You just do it.)

Just busted to 3 pages, ds.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Evillor on August 31, 2007, 06:42:27 am
Well, I said everyone else at the party was having fun... so I was trying to say your antics, while fun for you, is taking fun away from everyone else.

Look at everything I've said, if you want. I don't want it to ever sound like crying or whining. I know that's what feeds you.

What my goal was... is.. yes, even though you've heard every argument... that doesn't mean your actions stop being wrong somehow. Even if you've found peace in your mind for what it is that you do, I just wanted to mention (once again) that it's wrong and shouldn't be done and stop doing it. It cannot be justified. It's ruining other people's party. Bottom line.

If that's what you like to do, I guess I can't stop you at the moment. But don't pretend you are expanding the game or punishing BIS or have any hint of righteousness in your actions. (Of course as I pointed out before, you're the one person who doesn't seem to think that. You just do it.)

Just busted to 3 pages, ds.

But who defines right or wrong? you? in my opinion im right, in yours im wrong. There is no definitive answer here, so to say my actions are "wrong" is a flawed statement. Wrong in your opinion yes, but that doesn't make me wrong. It CAN be justified. I bought a game, the game is basically in BETA stage. I want to have fun with my purchase, so i play it in a way that gives me enjoyment. If my enjoyment of the game ruins it for others, then thats too bad. What your saying is like, i  buy a 4x4 vehicle, yet i never drive it as it pollutes the environment for others too much. So i should soak up the cost of it for everyone else's sake. Thats wrong in my opinion. I bought it, so im gonna do whatever the hell i want to with it.

"You cant stop me at the moment", you cannot stop me period. If arma gets to the stage where its unhackable (which hasnt happened to any game to date to my knowledge) then theres other games out there i can enjoy, my way. Also i dont pretend to expand the game or punish BIS , i never have and never will (like BIS care if people cheat in their game). I am getting my moneys worth from a title that should have been finished before release. I think you are confusing me with someone else who has posted. If you get the message that i think cheating has a "righteousness" to it them thats your interpretation.  Im just having fun, nothing more nothing less, hell all im doing is using the multihack that id say 80% of the players i meet on servers use anyhow. Weskers hack is more popular than sliced bread in the arma community. Just wait til i get my hands on the SCP, im gonna have so much fun it should be illegal. You ARE coming across as whining too, basically you have been told by several people that you are not going to change the way they play, yet you continue to post.  Feed me more, im almost on desert, Yum

You act like cheating on a game is murder. I come home, kick back in my chair and play a few games of arma, if that offends you SO much then YOU need to learn to live with other people. Not everyone sees the world as you do, not everyone plays the same way you do. If you cant accept that, worry more about yourself. End of the day, i cheat at a game, you're the one who cant accept that and move on. 
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: TKCfuckheads on August 31, 2007, 09:54:19 am
Hey Wesker that dude on your sig... hes a damn good looking bloke... seriously I like it...  :icon_biggrin2
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Bellend on August 31, 2007, 10:44:35 am
That guy with a head shaped like a coconut and Zulu lips? :D
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Doolittle on August 31, 2007, 11:06:24 am
Less talky talky. More ping pong.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: TKCfuckheads on August 31, 2007, 03:20:06 pm
That guy with a head shaped like a coconut and Zulu lips? :D
A smart guy like yourself should be able to pick a edited photo... but even edited he's still a good looking bloke  :icon_laugh
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: dave7802 on August 31, 2007, 04:15:58 pm
what is your point?

You come on here and go on about what we do.

At the end of the day do you think after listening to you we/there going to say Oh he has a point lets pack it
all in and stop all the work we done
Chuck the game in the bin because its soo boring playing monraly  (i type to fast Normally i was meant to type)

Fact is regardless what you say you will not stop what happens,

And not is BIS can, as the old saying goes hackers are always one step ahead,
Look at bf2 and punkbuster lmoa as soon as they updated a new release was out.

So why not drop the chitty chatty and go an enjoy your over realistic game and let us show you how
to have real fun on a server,

You kinda remind me of the angry German  kid on Youtube


Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: eurofighter1 on August 31, 2007, 05:19:42 pm
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You kinda remind me of the angry German  kid on Youtube
hehe now he was funny. let me guess he saw u guys on the server and u lot just kept teamkillig him  :icon_laugh
Just had to say it   :icon_biggrin2
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: dave7802 on August 31, 2007, 05:43:30 pm
lmao thats right me and the Zombies are a great combination for disaster
Only thing is it takes time no medics to revive  :icon_laugh ROLF
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: TKCfuckheads on August 31, 2007, 07:08:36 pm
as the old saying goes hackers are always one step ahead,

Yeah thats such an old, well know saying... smacktard :icon_o_o
(http://tkc-community.net/forum/Themes/default/images/warnpmod.gif) Watch your language.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on August 31, 2007, 10:59:46 pm
That guy with a head shaped like a coconut and Zulu lips? :D
Lmfao!

@ FuckHead
That's YOU in the photo. You need to stop talking about yourself in the third person. It can be considered as a sign of insanity.
If it's so then I just hope we are not responsible for triggering it.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 02, 2007, 05:12:33 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-HiCcyg_gk
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 02, 2007, 06:56:41 pm
nononononono d3d

 this 1 is better  :icon_laugh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyNfXGXzQQY&mode=related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyNfXGXzQQY&mode=related&search=)
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: TKCfuckheads on September 03, 2007, 02:55:07 pm
That guy with a head shaped like a coconut and Zulu lips? :D
Lmfao!

@ FuckHead
That's YOU in the photo. You need to stop talking about yourself in the third person. It can be considered as a sign of insanity.
If it's so then I just hope we are not responsible for triggering it.

Albert if my life was gaming you guys would worry me.. but nar I have a life outside gaming and the little time I do spend gaming its on servers you can't get to, so I just don't care. I bet you, I got under your skin cause you have to resort to using edit photos trying to insult, shame or embarrass me, you've given no one else that kinda attention. I win you know it, oh won't be around for the next 8 months so have fun, infact you won't hear from me again. :icon_thumbsup
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 03, 2007, 03:07:36 pm
That guy with a head shaped like a coconut and Zulu lips? :D
Lmfao!

@ FuckHead
That's YOU in the photo. You need to stop talking about yourself in the third person. It can be considered as a sign of insanity.
If it's so then I just hope we are not responsible for triggering it.

Albert if my life was gaming you guys would worry me.. but nar I have a life outside gaming and the little time I do spend gaming its on servers you can't get to, so I just don't care. I bet you, I got under your skin cause you have to resort to using edit photos trying to insult, shame or embarrass me, you've given no one else that kinda attention. I win you know it, oh won't be around for the next 8 months so have fun, infact you won't hear from me again. :icon_thumbsup
Why do you keep claiming to have got under my skin?
If you did then why haven't I blocked you all together from posting on my YouTube?
You have been more of a comedy figure to me, like a character out of Disney. Always leaving comments that look like they are typed by a handicap.
Believe what you like about me being angry with you, you keep bad mouthing TKC here and on YouTube so I just looked you up and found a picture that I thought looked quite funny.
Anyway well done dude, you made it to my sig! You should feel that much more "special".
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: dave7802 on September 03, 2007, 03:26:32 pm
LMAO Wesker Love the Sig ROLF  :icon_laugh
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 03, 2007, 06:22:42 pm
LMAO just seen it too  :icon_laugh
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: eurofighter1 on September 03, 2007, 08:05:16 pm
I found lockie, do i get a cookie???   :icon_biggrin2  :icon_laugh
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: O_o on September 11, 2007, 05:26:34 am
Before you ask, yes i am an Anti-cheater   :icon_biggrin2

As i totally agree with Doolittle on this subject. I just want to know something...

As all of you that bought ArmA and feel hard done by, this is understandable, as I myself feel that I have paid for a beta. If you feel the need to use cheats/hacks or whatever it is you use to make yourselves feel better. What gives you the right to use these cheats on servers that other people pay for and not you? Why not hire a server for yourselves so you can have a cheating fest, and let the people that want to play ArmA in a cheat free environment do that? If BIS owned all the servers themselves then there would be no need for this post, but they don't. People rent/buy servers to play the games they wish, how they wish. Whether they use cheats or not, but thats up to them to decide not you.

How is it legal using the SCP to lock players keyboards etc... Im no expert, but wouldn't that be classed as using a hack on another pc? whether or not its through a game. Im pretty sure thats not legit.

I love the statement from Wesker in another topic... "It is in the TKC rules crashing servers is a no no" Do you not understand "Wesker" that your so called "cheats/hacks" crash servers??? Ain't that a bit hypercritical?? I think you need to re-write your rules or even take a closer look  :icon_o_o

BTW another thing, you say that all this is for freedom, yet you forbid people to crash servers? Correct me if im wrong but ain't that a "rule"?

Anyway, I'll let you kiddy scripters get on with your ways. I on the other hand, have a life to lead  :icon_thumbsup
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 11, 2007, 06:59:19 am
Hi,
I have noticed you looking at the board/forum for some time so now that your reg'ed to post let me be the first to welcome you to about the last place on-line that you don't get banned for posting your opinion.

I myself don't have time right now and pick the differant parts of your post apart to comment on....but I want you to know that although I am an admin on TKC and do whatever I can to support them,I myself do NOT cheat in on-line contests.

Z
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 11, 2007, 09:19:12 am
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How is it legal using the SCP to lock players keyboards etc... Im no expert, but wouldn't that be classed as using a hack on another pc? whether or not its through a game. Im pretty sure thats not legit.
In Evo my keyboard gets locks if I accidentally TK.
Also ArmAAC locks and crashes players, yet it's freely distributed through the BIS forum.
If they are allowed to do it why cant we?

I love the statement from Wesker in another topic... "It is in the TKC rules crashing servers is a no no" Do you not understand "Wesker" that your so called "cheats/hacks" crash servers??? Ain't that a bit hypercritical?? I think you need to re-write your rules or even take a closer look  :icon_o_o
TKC have not made any cheats dedicated to crashing ArmA servers though... Maybe you should be the one looking closer.

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I on the other hand, have a life to lead  :icon_thumbsup

Cool, dont we all.
What are you gonna do next? Write a web blog about it here?
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 11, 2007, 09:35:53 am
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Z0ldDude clearly has thought about the civil action but not the criminal case. Which cost you as reporter of the crime nothing.

As I keep sayin just report the crime to the police. They Z0ldDude and anyone who uses his software and contributes ideas to TKC, has to do all the turning to court and all the costs.

By the Z0ldDude's answer is evidense screen shot it and record it. Man the guy thinks he is lawyer when all he is doing is nailing his own cofin lid  

Costs you money if you use a Lawyer and go civil recovery and you still have to report it to the police anyway. Versus free if you report it to the police.

Kind Regards walker
 

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Z0ldDude clearly has thought about the civil action but not the criminal case.
Incorrect.

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Which cost you as reporter of the crime nothing.
Unless in our servers legal jurisdiction you make a false report in which case it may well cost you more than money...years of your life without freedom.

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As I keep sayin just report the crime to the police.
Sounds like a good idea...first make sure it is a crime in the local TKC has it server in.
Good luck as here we don't follow Fascist rules and false reports if your a "victim" withen the country and able to complain carry jail time.

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They Z0ldDude and anyone who uses his software and contributes ideas to TKC, has to do all the turning to court and all the costs.
Is that an English sentence?
I am not sure what it is you are trying to say but let me attempt to reply anyhow.

I do not write any of the 'software' posted on TKC.
Alltho I was a programmer back in the late 70's/early 80's and ran a few BBS's before what is now the "internet" I hated all the involved mathematics that programming in that day involved.
I have however been very active in the electronics involved during the past 28 years as well as keeping/making new contacts with talented people in and out of hard/software development and other "old-dudes" from the "on-line" pre-internet days.
Basically I have been around before the "internet" and as a hobbyist helped developed many things which you now use in your computer system and to connect to the "internet".

My past history and long term contacts are what drives me to help support the minds here at TKC and it's overall goals.


ADVICE:
Walker,Victor and others should stay out of giving people leagal advice.
EA,Evenbalance and others do not wish to bother TKC for good reason.

Myself I think the smartest person posting on BI is Jerry Hopper and have been in ICQ contact with him over the past many months when he requested an interview with TKC.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: M. O. on September 11, 2007, 12:25:43 pm
DisableUserInput is a built in feature, a part of the game you bought the licence of. It's just as legit as shooting other players in the game. Players' keyboards get locked all the time. Hexenkessel Evolution etc etc, during cutscenes. The SCP is no hack of general meaning, it's an addon that also works in MP. Even if it was a hack it wouldn't be illegal as it doesn't hack other people's computers.

We're against all forms of crashing. Because without servers and players there's no game to play. Less servers, less choice.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: O_o on September 11, 2007, 02:08:00 pm
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In Evo my keyboard gets locks if I accidentally TK.
Also ArmAAC locks and crashes players, yet it's freely distributed through the BIS forum.
If they are allowed to do it why cant we?

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DisableUserInput is a built in feature, a part of the game you bought the licence of. It's just as legit as shooting other players in the game. Players' keyboards get locked all the time. Hexenkessel Evolution etc etc, during cutscenes. The SCP is no hack of general meaning, it's an addon that also works in MP. Even if it was a hack it wouldn't be illegal as it doesn't hack other people's computers.

We're against all forms of crashing. Because without servers and players there's no game to play. Less servers, less choice.

Yes your both right, I personally don't like evolution as its boring. But what happens when you TK, has been done for the good, so people don't ruin the mission. Were as your using the scripts to your advantage to ruin players gameplay. As ive said in my first post, the servers are not owned by BIS. So if you see a server playing evolution, why play it, if all you want to do is TK?

Didn't you state somewhere else Wesker that the ArmAAC is total crap and doesn't even work? And that it only drops yours and the servers FPS?

How would you feel if you rented/bought a house, then lots of asylum seekers came round and started trashing your house? Of course a house is not a game, but think of the house as your server. Surely you can see the logic there.

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TKC have not made any cheats dedicated to crashing ArmA servers though... Maybe you should be the one looking closer.

So have I read wrong? "TKC Super Cheat Pack"

It may not say "Crash servers" in the readme, but you might aswell. Spawn numerous amounts of objects/zombies/vehicles etc... massively drops players FPS, and if they don't have a computer powerful enough of dealing with it, they will CTD. Same goes for servers, the more you create, the more the server can't handle thus crashing the server. So once again is this not crashing servers?? 

You all go on saying how you don't like ArmA because its suppose to be realistic. (Far from it IMO) But its a start. Why do you play it? In most peoples eyes ArmA is a simulator, not an acardy BF2. Yeh you get all the Berzerk and evolution maps, but they will die down once things finally take off.

I would totally agree with what you do, if it wasn't about ruining other players gameplay. But its not. I can't really see why you would say you don't do it to ruin the fun of others. If you was doing it for fun, why mess up everyone else's fun in the process?

Its understandable if you make the cheats/hacks for a hobby, then send them over to the game developer. Whats that? Why would i send it over after all my work? So the game developer can try and fix the glitch that your exploiting, then you can make another cheat/hack and so on... Trying to break the code etc... As its only a hobby im sure you wont mind.

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Cool, dont we all.
What are you gonna do next? Write a web blog about it here?
 

I would, but I don't like to brag about what i do with my life  :wink2

Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 11, 2007, 02:20:29 pm
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It may not say "Crash servers" in the readme, but you might aswell. Spawn numerous amounts of objects/zombies/vehicles etc... massively drops players FPS, and if they don't have a computer powerful enough of dealing with it, they will CTD. Same goes for servers, the more you create, the more the server can't handle thus crashing the server. So once again is this not crashing servers??

The CTD problem you describe isnt down to the type of scripts that are executed by the SCP, it is down to a known bug (which is fixed in 1.09) which causes ArmA to CTD in script intensive MP maps.

I very much doubt the server exe would be crashed out.

I suffer from the same problem and on occasion i cant even join a Evolution game because it CTD's (Problem rarely seen on less script intensive maps like CTF)



Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: O_o on September 11, 2007, 02:48:02 pm
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The CTD problem you describe isnt down to the type of scripts that are executed by the SCP, it is down to a known bug (which is fixed in 1.09) which causes ArmA to CTD in script intensive MP maps.

I very much doubt the server exe would be crashed out.

I suffer from the same problem and on occasion i cant even join a Evolution game because it CTD's (Problem rarely seen on less script intensive maps like CTF)

Yes there is some issues with the current version of ArmA, But spawning massive amounts depends on the memory, what happens when your computer is out of memory? You CTD because your computer can't handle it. You might even get the BSOD or whatever its called. (Blue screen of death, I think thats what its called anyway) Even the new patch can't fix these CTD's, its down to the ArmA engine.

The main fact is that you have a choice in what mission you decide to play. Were as we don't have a choice whether or not we wish to play with cheats, unless we lock the server.




Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 11, 2007, 04:39:09 pm


How would you feel if you rented/bought a house, then lots of asylum seekers came round and started trashing your house? Of course a house is not a game, but think of the house as your server. Surely you can see the logic there.





here where i live we usually lock the doors and keep a shotgun handy
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: M. O. on September 11, 2007, 07:48:31 pm
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Yes your both right, I personally don't like evolution as its boring. But what happens when you TK, has been done for the good, so people don't ruin the mission. Were as your using the scripts to your advantage to ruin players gameplay. As ive said in my first post, the servers are not owned by BIS. So if you see a server playing evolution, why play it, if all you want to do is TK?

It doesn't matter. It doesn't make it less legal. Putting a TKer to jail ruins his game. That doesn't mean it's illegal. We're TKers, we shoot all no matter the map, if we like to.

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It may not say "Crash servers" in the readme, but you might aswell. Spawn numerous amounts of objects/zombies/vehicles etc... massively drops players FPS, and if they don't have a computer powerful enough of dealing with it, they will CTD. Same goes for servers, the more you create, the more the server can't handle thus crashing the server. So once again is this not crashing servers??


If a server "crashes" that way it's completely legal. You're just using the features of the game to a limit your and other people's hardware/software can't cope anymore. It's all within the bounds of the game. The game allows you to play it and to use its features. That's what you paid for.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: eurofighter1 on September 11, 2007, 09:04:06 pm
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How is it legal using the SCP to lock players keyboards etc... Im no expert, but wouldn't that be classed as using a hack on another pc? whether or not its through a game. Im pretty sure thats not legit
Your only locking it through armed assault. It isnt done by locking keybored through the comp by sending a virus. Plus i have minimized the arma when i was locked and i can use keybored and mouse fine. So ur not modifying someones computer files really. At least i think so lol.

These guys dont have to target evo, but its a convenient map to do so imo
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 11, 2007, 09:48:42 pm
Didn't you state somewhere else Wesker that the ArmAAC is total crap and doesn't even work? And that it only drops yours and the servers FPS?

Nope, I just said it wastes bandwidth and that
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It's said to disable keyboard, teleport you far away and crashes your game after a certain amount of time.
Never seen it happen & never heard of it happening to anyone.
Don't get me wrong, I have read the code and it looks like it'd work against a basic weapon mod.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 11, 2007, 11:44:11 pm
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How is it legal using the SCP to lock players keyboards etc... Im no expert, but wouldn't that be classed as using a hack on another pc? whether or not its through a game. Im pretty sure thats not legit
Your only locking it through armed assault. It isnt done by locking keybored through the comp by sending a virus. Plus i have minimized the arma when i was locked and i can use keybored and mouse fine. So ur not modifying someones computer files really. At least i think so lol.

These guys dont have to target evo, but its a convenient map to do so imo

well i actively target Evo servers...

Any form of PvP is generally safe from my antics (well apart from me using Medics wallhack in CTF's  :icon_thumbsup Thnx btw Medic! its gr8!)
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 12, 2007, 12:05:58 am


How would you feel if you rented/bought a house, then lots of asylum seekers came round and started trashing your house? Of course a house is not a game, but think of the house as your server. Surely you can see the logic there.





here where i live we usually lock the doors and keep a shotgun handy

I leave the doors unlocked and carry my Ruger on my side.
NRA for life.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 12, 2007, 12:32:54 am
unfortunately my ruger p95 was stolen while i was gone, im waiting on the day they come back and try and shoot me with it...
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: O_o on September 12, 2007, 03:12:51 am
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here where i live we usually lock the doors and keep a shotgun handy

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I leave the doors unlocked and carry my Ruger on my side.
NRA for life.

lol... Are you guys fearing for your life or something? Anyone with half a brain will know to lock their doors etc... But like all the games that get released, their will always be a cheats/hacks, its near enough impossible to stop. Just the same as your house, no matter how many locks you put on door, someone will always find a way through. Having a shotgun or whatever it is you need to feel better wont make a difference.

Maybe a bit off topic but ah well.

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It doesn't matter. It doesn't make it less legal. Putting a TKer to jail ruins his game. That doesn't mean it's illegal. We're TKers, we shoot all no matter the map, if we like to.

Whether or not you think your right, you will always be wrong. Evolution is "suppose" to be a team based mission, not teamkill mission. If you don't like the rules for that mission why join? Why not join a DM? That way you get to kill everyone on site, without ruining the mission for others, or does this not make sense to you? Maybe not.

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If a server "crashes" that way it's completely legal. You're just using the features of the game to a limit your and other people's hardware/software can't cope anymore. It's all within the bounds of the game. The game allows you to play it and to use its features. That's what you paid for.

If you think thats legal, then maybe you have a screw missing. Missions that are made by the community are tested by both the author and the server admin, this way they can see whether or not their server can handle it. If the server can't handle the mission, they don't use it. Were as your so called "scripts" are used to prevent gameplay, knowing fully well how much they drop the FPS thus eating at the system memory causing players games to CTD and sometimes the server too. So you don't need to play stupid, I know what im on about  :wink2

Before you say its the game and not our scripts that crash the servers, you know what the scripts are capable of. You know the more scripts you use, the more crap you spawn,  the better chance the server will crash.

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Your only locking it through armed assault. It isnt done by locking keybored through the comp by sending a virus. Plus i have minimized the arma when i was locked and i can use keybored and mouse fine. So ur not modifying someones computer files really. At least i think so lol.

These guys dont have to target evo, but its a convenient map to do so imo

Either way your interfering with that players privacy. Which you have no right to do. Before you go on with evolution saying how it puts you in jail for teamkilling, don't you get warned? Im pretty sure you do. So basically its within your hands whether you go to jail or not. Anti-cheaters on the other hand can't do anything apart from tabbing out, if you said that works, but they don't get a warning when a cheater joins the mission. Of course this is up to the developer/publisher to try and counter your attempts, but you talk about "freedom" lmao??? So locking a players keyboard is classed as freedom is it? Have a re-think please  :icon_o_o

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well i actively target Evo servers...

Any form of PvP is generally safe from my antics (well apart from me using Medics wallhack in CTF's  icon_thumbsup Thnx btw Medic! its gr8!)

Ok, like i have already agreed that Evolution is the most boring mission ever, although my hat goes off to the mission maker for he's work. As for PvP, you have got to be really sad for using cheats on these, I mean come on lol... If you need cheats you make yourself stand out, I think only children do that. Its mainly called attention seeking, well I think that goes for every mission that you use cheats on, or any game.

One more thing about this "freedom" thing you have going on lol. If you go on servers that other people pay for and create havok in the name of freedom. Why do you have rules on these forums? No links to cheats in posts, people get warned for double posting etc... I thought it was all about the FREEDOM?  :icon_cry2

Last but not least  :icon_thumbsup

As of yet, no one has answered my question about why you think its right to wreck someones server that they pay for with their hard earned cash? With all the money you make from you so called "hobbies", why don't you invest it into a server for yourselves?












Title: Re: SCP 1.0
Post by: shooter420 on September 12, 2007, 03:18:34 am
Yea, but this is no security group. We're all about maximizing freedom, the necessity for unlimited fun and creativity. Soon ordinary users will be able to do whatever they want in MP for the first time in the history of multiplayer gaming.  :cheers

No bans, no admins, no rules, just loads of fun!

your a fucking god man!
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: M. O. on September 12, 2007, 05:46:13 am
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Whether or not you think your right, you will always be wrong. Evolution is "suppose" to be a team based mission, not teamkill mission. If you don't like the rules for that mission why join? Why not join a DM? That way you get to kill everyone on site, without ruining the mission for others, or does this not make sense to you? Maybe not.

Whether or not you think your right, you will always be wrong. Dictators, kings and the likes are "supposed" to be fed and rule, not obey nor work. If you don't like the rules of a country why live there? Why not move? That way you get to live free, without ruining the country for others, or does this not make sense to you? Maybe not.

It's not about "right" and "wrong". It's about "right" and "right".

What does it matter what something is "supposed" to be? We're fully capable of thinking ourselves. DM, CTF, Coop doesn't matter. "The rules" are all imaginary and only applies to those who voluntarily follow them and limit their capabilities.

Free gaming is to do what one wants. If you want to do what we do, just get the SCP, it's a few posts higher up.

This forum is not a game. The rules apply here because we can enforce them. You're free to follow your own rules, but we're free to use our rules against yours.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: O_o on September 12, 2007, 07:56:12 am
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Whether or not you think your right, you will always be wrong. Dictators, kings and the likes are "supposed" to be fed and rule, not obey nor work. If you don't like the rules of a country why live there? Why not move? That way you get to live free, without ruining the country for others, or does this not make sense to you? Maybe not.

I doubt it very much you can compare a country to a game. Just like in your eyes you say Doolittle can't compare rapist to you (TKC) Which btw I understand what point he's trying to make. If some random guy forces himself on your wife/girlfriend (presuming you are straight) whilst your not around, even though she says no, and he carries on, is that legal? Of course its by far the most horrific ordeal a woman can go through and should never happen to anyone, but how can you stop it from happening?

What about these so called terrorists? that go around with bombs blowing random people up? I think to myself why do these people do that? Is it out of stupidity? To prove a point? For freedom? Or maybe because there so called "God/Allah" deems it right to do so?

I don't think you (TKC) don't have a conscience but thats my opinon. If you did, you would think of others, other than yourselves.

I think you can see where this is going, but ill carry on for the hell of it.

You (TKC) try to play God, brainwashing people to use cheats. Yes you ain't forcing people to use them, but are the terrorists forced to do what they do? Yes the terrorist are real-life and your doing it in the cyber world, but what difference does it make? Why not try what you doing in the real world, instead of hiding behind a computer? I doubt it very much you will get far. But maybe seeing it on yourtube will make a lot of people laugh lol...

Put it this way, if I put ?1,000,000 infront of you then said you can have it for free, what would you do? ( I know the answer don't worry) So what happens when you put a few cheats on a website free for the public? Theirs a lot of stupid people that will jump at the chance to anything if its free.

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It's not about "right" and "wrong". It's about "right" and "right".

So what your saying is that all cheaters are doing the right thing, by obeying what you deem is right? So wheres the right when people want to relax and play a game cheat free, but they can't because of all the cheats?

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What does it matter what something is "supposed" to be? We're fully capable of thinking ourselves. DM, CTF, Coop doesn't matter. "The rules" are all imaginary and only applies to those who voluntarily follow them and limit their capabilities.

Well considering your joining someone else's server, you should have respect for that server. 90% of all ArmA servers only have a couple rules, which even a baby can understand.

1) No teamkilling
2) No cheating
3) No abusive language

I can't see anything wrong with those 3 rules. You can do your own thing as long as you don't break the rules that are stated as you enter. If you don't understand what all 3 rules mean, they mean play fair. Now whats wrong with that?

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This forum is not a game. The rules apply here because we can enforce them. You're free to follow your own rules, but we're free to use our rules against yours.

You sure? lol. Seems like to me your living in a fantasy world.

What rules?? Sorry have I missed something? The only rules ive seen is when people fuck up in their posts, but i think you make the rules up as you go along. Which btw isn't surprising.

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Free gaming is to do what one wants. If you want to do what we do, just get the SCP, it's a few posts higher up.

Going a bit off topic ain't we? I ain't hear to be recruited, nor am I hear to lower myself to your standards. Im hear to get some answers as to why you feel the need to cheat, also whether theirs any logic as to what it is you do, so far theres nothing. Im not here to argue, im not here to cry and im not here to moan. So please excuse me if you think im doing any of the following.

Why is it you can't answer my question? but you can make excuses for everything else?

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As of yet, no one has answered my question about why you think its right to wreck someones server that they pay for with their hard earned cash? With all the money you make from you so called "hobbies", why don't you invest it into a server for yourselves?
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 12, 2007, 08:27:08 am
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Are you guys fearing for your life or something?
I sure as hell don't.
Unlike your country non felons are armed.
In the part of California I am fishing in 9 out of 10 people carry a hidden hand gun legally...and we have the lowest crime rate you could imagine.

The right of the People to own and bare (use) arms in our constitution is there so people can put up a fight against the government if they need to.

Fuck fascism and socialist governments that don't trust their population. Only those Contries or States have people getting there homes broken into or raped,assaulted,robbed and go to jail if they kick the guys ass.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 12, 2007, 01:20:31 pm
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Only those Contries or States have people getting there homes broken into or raped,assaulted,robbed and go to jail if they kick the guys ass.

Luckily the laws changed in my country now so this doesnt happen, even if you kill em!

anyways back on topic.....
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: M. O. on September 12, 2007, 03:11:25 pm
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I doubt it very much you can compare a country to a game. Just like in your eyes you say Doolittle can't compare rapist to you (TKC) Which btw I understand what point he's trying to make. If some random guy forces himself on your wife/girlfriend (presuming you are straight) whilst your not around, even though she says no, and he carries on, is that legal? Of course its by far the most horrific ordeal a woman can go through and should never happen to anyone, but how can you stop it from happening?

Nono, im not comparing that. I'm just explaining my stance on the word "supposed" by showing a parallell case where it can be used as well. It's not like doolittles comparison, cheats have nothing to do with rape either. You can "suppose" things anywhere you like, but you can't hurt anybody in online games. Shooting people in RL is not the same thing as shooting people in-game. Supposing things in RL is the same thing as supposing things in-game. "You do wrong" because you don't do what's "supposed" whether it be ArmA or RL (according to you). But you seem to mean that because arma is a game, rules are supposed (and should be) followed? But that in real life this isn't always necessary? What makes game rules so special? My point is that "supposed" is a word that doesn't mean anything. We do whatever we see fit, no matter what some think is "supposed" to be done. You're "supposed" to drink tea/coffee one way and eat your biscuits/whatever another. Who cares? Free thinkers do what they think is right, not what others think for them.

Same thing goes for suicide bombs you're talking about. It can't be compared to suicide bombs in-game. Primarily because nobody gets hurt. That's why you can't compare games to real life in most aspects. It's not right in my opinion to end the lives of innocents. People don't die due to online "bombers".

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So what your saying is that all cheaters are doing the right thing, by obeying what you deem is right? So wheres the right when people want to relax and play a game cheat free, but they can't because of all the cheats?

There's no common truth about what's right or wrong. It all depends on your interests as a person. For some some things are right, for others other things are. You can say that people should celebrate christmas one way, while others celebrate it their way. We play games our way, and you your way. It's all a matter of taste. You've got your rules, we got ours (basically none).

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As of yet, no one has answered my question about why you think its right to wreck someones server that they pay for with their hard earned cash? With all the money you make from you so called "hobbies", why don't you invest it into a server for yourselves?

What do you mean by "wrecking" a server? We don't make no money on TKC. "The play on your own servers" question is covered in the FAQ.


Btw Z. in most countries you can have a gun but you need a license and often a safe box where you put it in your house.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: O_o on September 12, 2007, 07:14:38 pm
It all boils down to the same question, as to why you think its right to use someone else's server as your own workspace?

You can make excuses as to why you think your not associated with these criminals all day long, but the only person your trying to prove a point to is yourselves, no one else.

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What do you mean by "wrecking" a server? We don't make no money on TKC. "The play on your own servers" question is covered in the FAQ.

Excuse me for saying this, but don't you think ive read enough bullshit on this site to last a life time? I take it you have added more FAQ's just after my previous post.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Avatar on September 12, 2007, 08:29:09 pm
awwwwwwwwwww. will you be my pet whiner?
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: MrMedic on September 12, 2007, 08:47:37 pm
 its a computer game and its inciting comments like you raped my girlfriend or blew up my family  ...  compared to rape and terrorism this game is nothing and it's script hack is even less ..only pissing people off because they feel like they wasted their money .. it makes me feel SICK!!! that they use words like rape and terrorism to try and justify that the hack ruins their personal enjoyment of a game on the internet.. UNfuckingBELIEVABLE!!! seriously.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: MrMedic on September 12, 2007, 08:52:38 pm



Btw Z. in most countries you can have a gun but you need a license and often a safe box where you put it in your house.

you can have a gun in any country .. its only against the law if you get caught with it lol
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: O_o on September 12, 2007, 10:55:12 pm
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awwwwwwwwwww. will you be my pet whiner?

How many brain cells did you kill making that post? Obviously not enough  :icon_thumbsup

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its a computer game and its inciting comments like you raped my girlfriend or blew up my family  ...  compared to rape and terrorism this game is nothing and it's script hack is even less ..only pissing people off because they feel like they wasted their money .. it makes me feel SICK!!! that they use words like rape and terrorism to try and justify that the hack ruins their personal enjoyment of a game on the internet.. UNfuckingBELIEVABLE!!! seriously.

Sorry did i hit a nerve? Truth hurts don't it?
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: O_o on September 12, 2007, 10:59:14 pm
Ive only just noticed that I have -1 user rating  :icon_o_o

Am I being to good? Am I right? Am I wrong? Or wrong then right? Or maybe even right then wrong? Damn this gets confusing  :icon_razz2

Oh darn it, i double posted  :icon_cry2
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Avatar on September 12, 2007, 10:59:51 pm
Well out of the 100 000 million i used about 50. The rest were dedicated to thinking of a plan to take over the world.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: MrMedic on September 12, 2007, 11:39:39 pm


did i hit a nerve? Truth hurts don't it?

no need to appologise :)
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: fartface on September 13, 2007, 12:28:01 am
Quick post from me, i have no problem with you lot making stupid scripts and tking, but when it effects my free time it pisses me off.  I work a hell of a lot and love to unwind with a game of multiplayer Arma, CTF, TDM and whatever else i fancy playing.  Now the problem is i cannot play a cheat free public server because you guys think its funny to be retards and fuck peoples games up.  Why is it so hard for you to stick to your own server and play the way you want to play without fucking my free time up??? 

Also because this is online and not real, doesnt take the reality of my free time being wasted by you.  I and the general Arma community dont want you guys messing with our free time, so i advise you to stick to servers where people have no direction, morals, respect for others, rules....ect,  before you get yourselves in serious trouble. 

 

Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 13, 2007, 12:37:34 am
Also because this is online and not real, doesnt take the reality of my free time being wasted by you.  I and the general Arma community dont want you guys messing with our free time, so i advise you to stick to servers where people have no direction, morals, respect for others, rules....ect,  before you get yourselves in serious trouble. 

Oh yea because i forgot  Interpol and the FBI are on our backs not to forget the army of lawyers....  :icon_rolleyes2

I work damn hard aswell and like to enjoy the free time i have MY way too.

It looks like we have a stalemate old boy
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 13, 2007, 12:40:27 am
Ive only just noticed that I have -1 user rating  :icon_o_o

Am I being to good? Am I right? Am I wrong? Or wrong then right? Or maybe even right then wrong? Damn this gets confusing  :icon_razz2

Oh darn it, i double posted  :icon_cry2


lol sorry i couldnt resist, seems after a 100 posts you can rate other members. Call it an abuse of power   :smile
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: fartface on September 13, 2007, 12:48:26 am
No stalemate at all, just stick to servers that play your way , simple as really.  Why join servers that you know will be playing by a set of rules?
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: O_o on September 13, 2007, 02:20:19 am


did i hit a nerve? Truth hurts don't it?

no need to appologise :)


No need to get a hard on over it, as it was just a bit of sarcasm  :icon_thumbsup

Ive only just noticed that I have -1 user rating  :icon_o_o

Am I being to good? Am I right? Am I wrong? Or wrong then right? Or maybe even right then wrong? Damn this gets confusing  :icon_razz2

Oh darn it, i double posted  :icon_cry2


lol sorry i couldnt resist, seems after a 100 posts you can rate other members. Call it an abuse of power   :smile


Just goes to show how mature you are.  :wink2
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 13, 2007, 02:55:12 am
wtf is with this intelectual high ground shit...

its a fucking video game, lock the fucking server, tell bis to fix it, no one is gonna stop what they are doing

fuck...
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Evillor on September 13, 2007, 03:52:33 am
cry cry cry whine whine whine moan moan moan.

theres an easy way to fix the issue, as i and many people have said before.

PAY for you own servers (or run them on your own computer), PASSWORD them, and only invite people you know to play. then you are safe from the big bad hackers.

I dont remember signing anything, or agreeing to any rules about how i play the game. You play the game your way, others play their way. If you dont like it, single player is for you, or play another game (and before you reply with "you cant tell me to play another game, ill play whatever i want", remember, you cant tell us what to do or how to play).

"wasting my free time", this is a BS argument. I enjoy kicking back and playing Arma too, in my free time. Fire up a few hacks and have a blast.  Your free time isnt any more valuable than my free time, i paid for the game too. So my enjoyment of the game as more important to me, and im going to do what i please. Thats the bottom line right there, no one cares what you have to say, i will play on any server i chose to, if it bothers you, then YOU find a new server.

"ive read enough bullshit on this site blah blah", then if thats true, leave. Disappear, im sure you wont be missed, as your wasting your time here, your the one with something to prove. We play a game, your the one complaining over it.

"using someone else's server as your personal workspace", well, last time i checked there was no  terms of service agreement when joining a public server (note the word Public), so really there isnt any law, rules or legal standpoint whatsoever involved. A "Public" server is to be used by the public, and with no rules as to use then it can be used in any way you see fit. Your posts should be directed at BIS to implement anti cheat software, sa its plainly obvious that they dont care if people cheat. So if the game designers/publishers dont care if people cheat (and they own the game) then what chance do you have at getting people to stop.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 13, 2007, 06:13:23 am
Ive only just noticed that I have -1 user rating  :icon_o_o

Am I being to good? Am I right? Am I wrong? Or wrong then right? Or maybe even right then wrong? Damn this gets confusing  :icon_razz2

Oh darn it, i double posted  :icon_cry2

I see a rate of "0".
If one voted you down then another voted you up.

Carry on with your opinions.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: O_o on September 13, 2007, 06:42:20 am
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wtf is with this intelectual high ground shit...

its a fucking video game, lock the fucking server, tell bis to fix it, no one is gonna stop what they are doing

fuck...

Why should we have to lock the servers? Yes theres public servers, there only public so other players can enjoy missions with that group/clan, going by their rules, as its their server.

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cry cry cry whine whine whine moan moan moan.

Read my previous posts child, then maybe you will understand as to why im here.

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theres an easy way to fix the issue, as i and many people have said before.

PAY for you own servers (or run them on your own computer), PASSWORD them, and only invite people you know to play. then you are safe from the big bad hackers.

Same as the above, read my previous posts. :wink2 You don't get ArmA servers for free, every group/clan "PAYS" for their own server with their own hard earned cash. Unless you host it off your own computer of course.

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I dont remember signing anything, or agreeing to any rules about how i play the game. You play the game your way, others play their way. If you dont like it, single player is for you, or play another game (and before you reply with "you cant tell me to play another game, ill play whatever i want", remember, you cant tell us what to do or how to play).

Don't think i agreed too anything nor signed anything, saying how a game should be played. Once again, its not the game, its the lack of respect you show peoples servers. If all the servers are locked im sure you would move onto another game, but then im pretty sure not everyone wants to join a group/clan just to play a game. So thats why they join public servers just to have a laugh, "Without cheats"

I play loads of other games singleplayer or multiplayer, but im strong minded enough to see straight through little kiddies (like yourselves), and pretty damn sure you wont ever harm my gaming experience  :wink2 In a way, I actually feel sorry for you lot. Don't ask me why, I just do.

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"ive read enough bullshit on this site blah blah", then if thats true, leave. Disappear, im sure you wont be missed, as your wasting your time here, your the one with something to prove. We play a game, your the one complaining over it.

lol... If you wont miss me, im sure i'll miss you lot  :wink2

I would leave, but seen as your all replying to my posts, and its making me laugh so god damn much, why would i want to leave? The more you reply, the more I can see how much my posts are getting to you. Knowing as soon as you read my posts, and it finally gets through your wee tiny little brains, then it hits a nerve on the way through, thus cause you to reply. Im loving every single moment watching you try and defend your actions.  :icon_teehee

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"using someone else's server as your personal workspace", well, last time i checked there was no  terms of service agreement when joining a public server (note the word Public), so really there isnt any law, rules or legal standpoint whatsoever involved. A "Public" server is to be used by the public, and with no rules as to use then it can be used in any way you see fit. Your posts should be directed at BIS to implement anti cheat software, sa its plainly obvious that they dont care if people cheat. So if the game designers/publishers dont care if people cheat (and they own the game) then what chance do you have at getting people to stop.

"Public" Yes anybody is free to join, but the server is public only because the server admins say so. If they have rules on their "OWN" public server that they "PAY" for, you should respect that.

Maybe once you grow up, and start being dependent on yourself, meaning you earn you own money and not running to mummy or daddy, you will realize what the word "respect" stands for.

As for BIS, I personally think their tight wankas and cowards. Maybe the only thing we agree on lol. What is the point asking BIS to do something? When the twats don't even read their own forums? Before you say anything, I know this is nothing to do with you. So now ive just saved you killing a few more brain cells  :wink2

" then what chance do you have at getting people to stop." Not once, in any of my posts have I asked you to stop all your childish games, and im not here to make you stop. All I said was why you think it was right to abuse someone else's server that they "PAY" for.

Next time, try reading my previous posts before jumping the gun.

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I see a rate of "0".
If one voted you down then another voted you up.

Carry on with your opinions.

Yup  :icon_cool2 maybe one of your trusty members agrees with what im saying.  :icon_thumbsup


I wonder how many quotes I get in the next reply, 3-4? Who knows.  :icon_rolleyes2






Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: M. O. on September 13, 2007, 06:47:27 am
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I would leave, but seen as your all replying to my posts, and its making me laugh so god damn much, why would i want to leave? The more you reply, the more I can see how much my posts are getting to you. Knowing as soon as you read my posts, and it finally gets through your wee tiny little brains, then it hits a nerve on the way through, thus cause you to reply. Im loving every single moment watching you try and defend your actions. 

It's not us who don't see the difference between RL and in-game. Don't think too highly of yourself. You ask questions and you get answers.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: O_o on September 13, 2007, 06:48:28 am
Awww im now promoted to a "Cheater Apprentice"  :icon_cry2

is there anyway you can change that to Anti-Cheater? Go on, just for me  :icon_laugh
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: O_o on September 13, 2007, 06:53:24 am
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I would leave, but seen as your all replying to my posts, and its making me laugh so god damn much, why would i want to leave? The more you reply, the more I can see how much my posts are getting to you. Knowing as soon as you read my posts, and it finally gets through your wee tiny little brains, then it hits a nerve on the way through, thus cause you to reply. Im loving every single moment watching you try and defend your actions. 

It's not us who don't see the difference between RL and in-game. Don't think too highly of yourself. You ask questions and you get answers.

I don't think to highly of myself, I just seem to know the difference between right and wrong, not right and right, or however it goes. But thanks for stating that, as it seems you think highly of me  :wink2

Just for the record, I know the different between RL and in-game. Maybe because I don't hide behind a computer day in day out.  :wink2 You should try it once in a while, its good for the lungs, all that fresh air an all.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 13, 2007, 06:57:25 am
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I see a rate of "0".
If one voted you down then another voted you up.

Carry on with your opinions.

Yup   maybe one of your trusty members agrees with what im saying. 

Hey I agree with parts of your arguments..dissagree with others.

Let me give you a "+" vote for your efforts.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: O_o on September 13, 2007, 07:11:49 am
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Hey I agree with parts of your arguments..dissagree with others.

Any chance you can shed some light on the parts you agree on? Seen as your suppose to be the main admin here (I think anyway) All ive had so  far is either excuses or immature replies.

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Let me give you a "+" vote for your efforts.

So kind, I would give you a minus rating but i haven't reached 100 posts yet. It is minus right? As your Teamkillers, it would only make sense lol...  :icon_razz2

Also, I take it theres no chance you can demote me to an Anti-Cheater, instead of Cheater Apprentice?
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 13, 2007, 04:56:34 pm
wtf is with this intelectual high ground shit...

its a fucking video game, lock the fucking server, tell bis to fix it, no one is gonna stop what they are doing

fuck...

LMAO Hear Hear!

tell it like it is d3d  :icon_biggrin2

btw O_o i rated u again with a + to restore the karma lmao. Not really sure how it reflects on my maturity but then again who cares...  :icon_teehee
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 13, 2007, 05:00:15 pm

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Also, I take it theres no chance you can demote me to an Anti-Cheater, instead of Cheater Apprentice?


Thats a really good idea, Mullah,Z, Wesker any chance this title can be added to properly represent the Anti-cheaters on this forum?  :smile


LOL Medic ur wall hack rocks! Bit annoying when u unload a clip into some1 and they dont die. Aint cuz of godmode though, its because there on the other side of the hill LMAO!
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: MrMedic on September 13, 2007, 05:07:28 pm

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Also, I take it theres no chance you can demote me to an Anti-Cheater, instead of Cheater Apprentice?


Thats a really good idea, Mullah,Z, Wesker any chance this title can be added to properly represent the Anti-cheaters on this forum?  :smile


LOL Medic ur wall hack rocks! Bit annoying when u unload a clip into some1 and they dont die. Aint cuz of godmode though, its because there on the other side of the hill LMAO!

rofl tiger , red = good .. orange = bad
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Evillor on September 14, 2007, 12:49:51 am
You misunderstand, you are a very stereotypical "anti cheater". Your posts are flooded with "run to mummy and daddy", "grow up child" etc etc. This just shows your ignorance. You believe that all cheaters are 12 year old spotty freaks that live in their parents basements. Cheaters are just regular people, who are tired of conforming to the majority and want to play a game their way. For someone who talks about respect as much as you do, you show very little. "hide behind a computer day in day out", big assumption there, shows again you do now know what you are talking about. Personally i work 2 jobs, on top of that I'm building a new room on my house, have a wife and kid so spend a fair bit of time out and about doing family stuff. I get enough fresh air thank you :) If I'm hurting the arma community so much with what i do, then its not much of a community.

I can tell you now, not a single thing you have said has "gotten to me". its a GAME, who cares?. I'm pretty sure this goes for most of the people here too. Your continuous posts just remind me of why i like to cheat at games like arma, because of its self righteous, egotistical community. You are no better than anyone here. "I play loads of other games singleplayer or multiplayer, but I'm strong minded enough to see straight through little kiddies (like yourselves), and pretty damn sure you wont ever harm my gaming experience" , if this is true then why are you here? if no "kiddies" are going to ruin your game, why are you here crying (and to be honest, your the only one crying like a little child).

Your staying because our replies make you laugh so much?, i find your responses amusing too. Trying to come off all intellectual and enlightened when if you were, you would know that you are wasting your time, but hell, you are amusing to read. The more we reply makes you believe you have hit a nerve, very delusional, see theres your problem right there. It is a computer game, nothing about the game gets to me, nothing the players can do or say gets to me, yet you believe you are fulfilling some crusade or something and annoying all the cheaters, you fail.

I have owned a number of servers (which i paid for with my own hard earned money, oh noes a cheater that works 2 jobs, he must be lying)  . Dealing with people who use cheats is something that comes with owning a server, theres always someone who uses cheats.  Its a fact of life, you are always going to have a group of people that don't follow the mainstream. Everything you have (and probably will) to say, i have heard 100000 times before. You believe you have  struck a nerve and annoyed us, no, its the other way around. You are the one annoyed, otherwise you wouldn't be here. Above all else, knowing this, makes everything you say irrelevant, but ill feed you a little.

I cheat because it makes me enjoy the pile of crap game that arma is. Sure cheaters can be an annoyance, but they are out there. You either accept that, or go crazy when they fuck up your game. Ive played games on my own servers, 40 hours into a campaign and someone jumps on and takes the server down, nukes it or something equally bad. Its annoying, but it happens. I cheat because i enjoy it, i don't need to justify my actions (except to my wallet). If it harms other peoples  games, that's simply too bad. Selfish, probably, but my enjoyment of a game is more important than other peoples.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: MrMedic on September 14, 2007, 01:06:23 am
You misunderstand, you are a very stereotypical "anti cheater". Your posts are flooded with "run to mummy and daddy", "grow up child" etc etc. This just shows your ignorance. You believe that all cheaters are 12 year old spotty freaks that live in their parents basements. Cheaters are just regular people, who are tired of conforming to the majority and want to play a game their way. For someone who talks about respect as much as you do, you show very little. "hide behind a computer day in day out", big assumption there, shows again you do now know what you are talking about. Personally i work 2 jobs, on top of that I'm building a new room on my house, have a wife and kid so spend a fair bit of time out and about doing family stuff. I get enough fresh air thank you :) If I'm hurting the arma community so much with what i do, then its not much of a community.

I can tell you now, not a single thing you have said has "gotten to me". its a GAME, who cares?. I'm pretty sure this goes for most of the people here too. Your continuous posts just remind me of why i like to cheat at games like arma, because of its self righteous, egotistical community. You are no better than anyone here. "I play loads of other games singleplayer or multiplayer, but I'm strong minded enough to see straight through little kiddies (like yourselves), and pretty damn sure you wont ever harm my gaming experience" , if this is true then why are you here? if no "kiddies" are going to ruin your game, why are you here crying (and to be honest, your the only one crying like a little child).

Your staying because our replies make you laugh so much?, i find your responses amusing too. Trying to come off all intellectual and enlightened when if you were, you would know that you are wasting your time, but hell, you are amusing to read. The more we reply makes you believe you have hit a nerve, very delusional, see theres your problem right there. It is a computer game, nothing about the game gets to me, nothing the players can do or say gets to me, yet you believe you are fulfilling some crusade or something and annoying all the cheaters, you fail.

I have owned a number of servers (which i paid for with my own hard earned money, oh noes a cheater that works 2 jobs, he must be lying)  . Dealing with people who use cheats is something that comes with owning a server, theres always someone who uses cheats.  Its a fact of life, you are always going to have a group of people that don't follow the mainstream. Everything you have (and probably will) to say, i have heard 100000 times before. You believe you have  struck a nerve and annoyed us, no, its the other way around. You are the one annoyed, otherwise you wouldn't be here. Above all else, knowing this, makes everything you say irrelevant, but ill feed you a little.

I cheat because it makes me enjoy the pile of crap game that arma is. Sure cheaters can be an annoyance, but they are out there. You either accept that, or go crazy when they fuck up your game. Ive played games on my own servers, 40 hours into a campaign and someone jumps on and takes the server down, nukes it or something equally bad. Its annoying, but it happens. I cheat because i enjoy it, i don't need to justify my actions (except to my wallet). If it harms other peoples  games, that's simply too bad. Selfish, probably, but my enjoyment of a game is more important than other peoples.

fkn hell m8 lol long winded , i dont give them the satisfaction i just play around with em i meen ive been hacking n messing with games since 1980 so ive been there seen it done it , had that talk talked wbout that as well , and at the end of the day the only thing that actually does matter is love and money lol .. fuck the anticheaters because they actually think we are different from them .. wierd init lol
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 14, 2007, 01:25:58 am
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Any chance you can shed some light on the parts you agree on?
I would not want to influence your writing style.

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Seen as your suppose to be the main admin here (I think anyway) All ive had so  far is either excuses or immature replies.
We don't have a "main admin" but yes I am one of the founding members of TKC...the nice one who does not cheat in contests.
As far as what you have been reading in reply to your posts,perhaps you should go back an reread them.
I saw no excuses...I saw reasons and if replies seem immature to you as a whole then perhaps it is -your- outlook that makes them seem thus.

Oh...you might inform Victor (the non-lawyer) and Walker that November the 5th will be a very special day indeed more in keeping with it's original concept and tell him I said thanks for bringing it up.

Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Evillor on September 14, 2007, 03:48:18 am

fkn hell m8 lol long winded , i dont give them the satisfaction i just play around with em i meen ive been hacking n messing with games since 1980 so ive been there seen it done it , had that talk talked wbout that as well , and at the end of the day the only thing that actually does matter is love and money lol .. fuck the anticheaters because they actually think we are different from them .. wierd init lol

I get that way when i first wake up :)

I just had my first play around with the SCP, awsome piece of work (especially with your wallhack Mrmedic). I need to find the screenshot button (print screen didnt work for some reason)..Find the admin...lock him, then make players own up to my cheating "i didnt say that..im off ffs"..I have a stitch through laughing so hard.

Most fun ive had with Arma ever, passing the time nicely until heavenly sword arrives in a few hours.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: O_o on September 14, 2007, 08:22:05 am
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You misunderstand

There seems to be a lot misunderstanding going on within this topic.

Imo, you buy a game because you like it, or because of the challenges they present. You can try before you buy in more ways than one. So I don't really understand why people are crying that they have spent all their pocket money on a game that they never intended to play the way it should played in the first place. Then you have the nerve to say its a shit game???

You need patience to play a game, completing the given challenges that lie an wait. Using cheats to overcome these challenges, giving you the advantage to see whats waiting for you round the corner spoils the concept of that given game. How can you sit their and say thats fun? lol... Boring more like.

Using patience and your brain to greatly improve your skill level is more satisfying than using a cheat. It seems to me that you are frustrated with yourselves, knowing that your not good enough to compete with genuine players.

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For someone who talks about respect as much as you do, you show very little.

Ermm... Do I really have to answer that? Well I might aswell... You need to earn respect, since when did you earn yours? Tbh I don't care if any of you don't respect me, as you most probably don't anyway. But im talking about commonsense. It is commonsense that you respect the fact that other people wish to rent/buy their servers, and run them in the way they wish. Does that still not get through to you?? Obviously not.

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"hide behind a computer day in day out", big assumption there, shows again you do now know what you are talking about. Personally i work 2 jobs, on top of that I'm building a new room on my house, have a wife and kid so spend a fair bit of time out and about doing family stuff. I get enough fresh air thank you Smile If I'm hurting the arma community so much with what i do, then its not much of a community.

Bla bla bla, Whens your biography due out?

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I can tell you now, not a single thing you have said has "gotten to me".

Really? So why are you still trying to prove a point?

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Your continuous posts just remind me of why i like to cheat at games like arma, because of its self righteous, egotistical community.

Good for you, give yourself a pat on the back  :icon_thumbsup

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if this is true then why are you here? if no "kiddies" are going to ruin your game, why are you here crying (and to be honest, your the only one crying like a little child).

Well if im honest... I got bored of the BIS forums. When I do some internet surfing, it only takes me a couple minutes to come on here and leave a reply, so why not?

Crying? Me? No never...  :icon_laugh

All im doing is asking a few questions and having a bit of fun in the process.

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Your staying because our replies make you laugh so much?, i find your responses amusing too. Trying to come off all intellectual and enlightened when if you were, you would know that you are wasting your time, but hell, you are amusing to read. The more we reply makes you believe you have hit a nerve, very delusional, see theres your problem right there. It is a computer game, nothing about the game gets to me, nothing the players can do or say gets to me, yet you believe you are fulfilling some crusade or something and annoying all the cheaters, you fail.

Im so sorry if my vocabulary harms your brain. It was never intended that way, its just the way that ive been brought up  :icon_o_o 

What else can I say apart from, my mummy and daddy gave me the attention that I needed to succeed in life, knowing the difference between right and wrong, learning how to become independent, and respecting others for what they have achieved.

So once again, I apologize to anyone that has been offended by my intellectualness.

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I have owned a number of servers (which i paid for with my own hard earned money, oh noes a cheater that works 2 jobs, he must be lying)  . Dealing with people who use cheats is something that comes with owning a server, theres always someone who uses cheats.  Its a fact of life, you are always going to have a group of people that don't follow the mainstream. Everything you have (and probably will) to say, i have heard 100000 times before. You believe you have  struck a nerve and annoyed us, no, its the other way around. You are the one annoyed, otherwise you wouldn't be here. Above all else, knowing this, makes everything you say irrelevant, but ill feed you a little.

I like the words "I have owned a number of servers"

What stopped you from keeping them? Was you not strong minded enough to stop the cheats ruining your gaming experience? That you had to become one yourself?

I know cheating is a fact of life, once again I will elaborate just for you...  :smile "Im not here to stop your actions" So why am I here? Who knows.  :wink2

"You believe you have  struck a nerve and annoyed us, no, its the other way around" No mate, you haven't struck anything, well not that I know of  :icon_thumbsup

"You are the one annoyed, otherwise you wouldn't be here. Above all else, knowing this, makes everything you say irrelevant" You keep telling yourself that, dear boy.  :wink2

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I cheat because it makes me enjoy the pile of crap game that arma is. Sure cheaters can be an annoyance, but they are out there. You either accept that, or go crazy when they fuck up your game. Ive played games on my own servers, 40 hours into a campaign and someone jumps on and takes the server down, nukes it or something equally bad. Its annoying, but it happens. I cheat because i enjoy it, i don't need to justify my actions (except to my wallet). If it harms other peoples  games, that's simply too bad. Selfish, probably, but my enjoyment of a game is more important than other peoples.

Ermm sorry to burst your bubble. Did anyone force you to buy ArmA?

" i don't need to justify my actions (except to my wallet)." Once again, did anyone force you to buy ArmA?

"I cheat because i enjoy it" Good for you, try it without the cheats, play without cheaters, then see how much satisfaction you get out of it.

" If it harms other peoples  games, that's simply too bad. Selfish, probably, but my enjoyment of a game is more important than other peoples." True, very true, if you owned a server before, why not get one again? Just for the TKC, that way you can all enjoy ArmA in a cheat filled environment. Or can you not afford it? Have you wasted all your money on ArmA? Awww...

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fuck the anticheaters because they actually think we are different from them .. wierd init lol

Oh we are the complete opposite to cheats. Thats why we have word "Anti" so we are separated from one an other. Then theirs always this respect issue, that you seem to lack, selfishness and so on....



I have an idea for you lot, maybe its worth a little think  :icon_thumbsup

Yes you make your cheats available to the public, but why not charge the public for the privilege of using them? Then donating the proceeds to charity? Why not get some good from your bad doings? Hopefully you will have a good think about that, as it makes a lot of sense to me  :icon_thumbsup
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: O_o on September 14, 2007, 08:42:20 am
Oh btw, sorry ZOldDude, totally forgot about your reply  :smile

After reading your reply, I had a quick check to see whats been said, and if im honest... I can only laugh. Yes I am an Anti-Cheater, but I feel that their wasting their time. Its not up to the community to sort this mess out, its up to the developers/publishers.

But if anything does come of it, then I can only say, you have got what you deserved. But thats very unlikely.

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I saw no excuses...I saw reasons and if replies seem immature to you as a whole then perhaps it is -your- outlook that makes them seem thus.

Of course not, you may say you don't use the cheats, whether or not that is true, its not the point here. You are a part of TKC, so of course your not going to see them as excuses  :wink2
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 14, 2007, 09:47:12 am
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you may say you don't use the cheats, whether or not that is true

No I never said I have not used cheats -or- that I do not cheat.
Like most people...we tend to read into things what we 'think' was said or reported.

I said (many times) "I do not cheat in contests".
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 14, 2007, 07:26:24 pm
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on the other hand, I'll join your clan and when it comes time to the contest ill cheat and represent the whole clan good and proper :icon_laugh
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Evillor on September 14, 2007, 09:31:53 pm
Respect IS earned, yet your telling us to "respect" other people, does putting up a server earn respect? In your book, yes. In mine....not at all. What has the Arma community done to earn my respect, other than a few mission devs (and the TKC / myg0t guys for what they do), not a great deal. So in your own words, they haven't "earned " my respect.  How do you respect a community that believes they can file a lawsuit against people for cheating.

Contrary to popular belief, not all cheaters cheat because they suck, that's just a misguided idea that most anti-cheats believe. Its your security blanket. "id pwn them if they didn't cheat", yeah yeah heard it before.

I bought Arma because of flashpoint. OPF had its share of problems, but no where near as bad as Arma. But again you misunderstand, You make it out that people are unhappy because they "spent all their pocket money" (which again, shows your ignorance, either that or you are obsessed with "kiddies"). You don't buy something and never use it, especially if there is a way to have fun (which is what cheating is to me). You don't seem to grasp this, and i cant be any plainer.

You clearly don't understand this method of cheating either, on arma, i don't cheat to win. Its pointless. I cheat to have fun. Calling artillery on people, car bombs, suicide bombers (which are awesome BTW), see how many people i can get kicked for cheating who are innocent. Its not about winning, its about enjoying the game. I don't cheat because people are better than me (which some people are, its natural, i don't care if I'm defeated in a game), i cheat to have fun whilst i play. Any while on the subject of me, if i wrote a book it would be an AUTO biography, dumbass. Oh and I'm not trying to prove a point, just poke holes in yours so hopefully you will see how little you understand, as you are oblivious to your own stupidity, yes i have a vocabulary too, and id bet my right arm I'm higher educated too, theres your "Kiddie" cheater for you.

To answer some of your questions, why i stopped owning servers :  there are numerous reasons. Clans disband so the server is no longer needed, games die (or get horrible patches that changes everything you love about the game, like DoD 3.1 into DoD source), I moved to a different country, not as much time for gaming to justify a server. Did anyone force me to buy arma, no they certainly did not, you are correct there. But because i made a decision to buy a game that is broken (which i didn't know when i bought the game), does that mean i have to stop using it in a way i find fun?. The stock game is not fun for me, no where near as good as OPF was (which i never cheated in BTW, and my clan finished 2nd in the 2003 European flashpoint league, which is now called the European combat league), but add cheats to arma and you have one hell of a fun time. I bet you use mods, Scope fix, remodeled guns and new sounds, that's all "cheating". Anything that modifies your game and gives an advantage over others is a "cheat".

"True, very true, if you owned a server before, why not get one again? Just for the TKC, that way you can all enjoy ArmA in a cheat filled environment. Or can you not afford it? Have you wasted all your money on ArmA? Awww..."  See, here you go again. did you read my last post? at all? Yes i lied, i am broke, i live in a cardboard box (the one my PC came in) at the bottom of someones garden, all because i bought arma. Why don't YOU buy your own server, password it and never have to deal with cheaters again seeing as you hate them so much. You seem to like to tell others what to do with their money, so YOU buy a server, problem solved, or are you to tight fisted to pay for a server. You are the one with the issue here, I'm not telling you how to play the game, you have the problem. Why should anyone change the way they play just because you have a problem. If you don't like it, do something about it, really theres nothing more that needs to be said other than that   : If you are not happy, do something about it. Find a way to play the game that makes you happy. If that means buying a server and passwords, so be it, but I'm happy with the way i play, so i don't need to change a damn thing.

I have a very busy weekend ahead of me so i probably wont respond anymore, there you go , you have "Won"

Edit: what just happened is a prime example why i dont respect server admins. An admin on FUIAA server (or something like that) just tked me 3 times. First time its because he wanted to pilot the blackhawk (which i had earned the right to fly WITHOUT cheating, sucky EVO), then when i complain he tells me to STFU (big talk cos he had 3 clanners on with him). So the guy waits in spawn and TKs me again for "complaining". So i let it go, took the next Heli and flew in to the warzone. Then im on a hill sniping with him and his 3 clanners nearby, he runs out of ammo. Boom im dead with a pistol shot for my weapon, i complain and he said "tough shit, i needed ammo". He then banned me. Quick ID change later and i decide to destroy his server. Promptly lock him and all his clans keyboards and annihilate the server with arty, carpet bombs, suicide bombs, throwing thim up 3 meters in the air. He relogs and comes back on, so i try out a script ive never used before. "BYE BYE i have to go to the TOILET!!" made me laugh so hard. His server with 34 players currently playing on it is reduced to 5 (all his clan quit too). Respect people just because they put up a server, THIS is the reason i dont. Server admins generally treat people like shit, unfortunately he picked the wrong person, as i had more power on his server than he did. I dont normally destroy a server like this, but this guy deserved it.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: M. O. on September 15, 2007, 12:47:30 am
Well spoken. However, I see a lot of people use words about servers. Both anticheaters and cheaters. Destroy, Crash, Ruin etc. It's understandable that outsiders (like some on BI) think it's actually what's happening.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Evillor on September 15, 2007, 04:27:55 am
^ good point

For clarification, To destroy a server i mean to empty it of players, to  make them leave (of their own free will too, not by them crashing etc).  I did not crash the server, nor cause any damage to it whatsoever, i left when there was 5 players remaining, so the server was still running when i left it. this is what almost all of the cheaters ive known over the years do. They dont physically break anything, they (to use an anti-cheat way of saying it) "spoil" the game for others, and thats as far as it goes. Once a servers empty, jobs done.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: O_o on September 15, 2007, 08:03:39 am
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on the other hand, I'll join your clan and when it comes time to the contest ill cheat and represent the whole clan good and proper icon_laugh

As much as I would love to have a player of your standard in my clan, I myself am not in a clan. I don't have the time to join nor run a group/clan. Maybe one day I will, who knows...

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Respect IS earned, yet your telling us to "respect" other people, does putting up a server earn respect? In your book, yes. In mine....not at all. What has the Arma community done to earn my respect, other than a few mission devs (and the TKC / myg0t guys for what they do), not a great deal. So in your own words, they haven't "earned " my respect.  How do you respect a community that believes they can file a lawsuit against people for cheating.

Yes you should respect other people if you want them to respect you back. Your actions are disrespectful and selfish, meaning you haven't earned your respect. I didn't say you should respect someone for putting a server up, you should however respect that person for granting you the privilege of playing on that server, also the most respect should be shown to the server itself, as the server is not yours, you have no right to abuse it, whether or not the admin on that given day is a prick.

What has the ArmA community done? Look around, try opening your eyes. If you have played OFP, you will realize that most probably 90% of the ArmA community have come from OFP, not ArmA. It is the community that has kept OFP going, not BIS. All the time and effort people put into making missions, addons and mods, yet you say these people are not worthy enough of your respect?

"How do you respect a community that believes they can file a lawsuit against people for cheating." Well sorry to break it to you, but I think its only the cheaters that don't respect them for trying to file a lawsuit, no one else. Whether they succeed or not, good luck to them. If they do succeed, and these cheats are classed as illegal, I'd be shitty myself right now if I was you, as you have admitted to using several of these cheats.

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Contrary to popular belief, not all cheaters cheat because they suck, that's just a misguided idea that most anti-cheats believe. Its your security blanket. "id pwn them if they didn't cheat", yeah yeah heard it before.

Whats not true about that statement? Genuine players will kick the shit out of cheaters that don't use cheats "FACT". You either use the cheats for the attention, which you don't get elsewhere, or... Because you not good enough to compete, simple as. Make more excuses if you wish.

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I bought Arma because of flashpoint. OPF had its share of problems, but no where near as bad as Arma. But again you misunderstand, You make it out that people are unhappy because they "spent all their pocket money" (which again, shows your ignorance, either that or you are obsessed with "kiddies"). You don't buy something and never use it, especially if there is a way to have fun (which is what cheating is to me). You don't seem to grasp this, and i cant be any plainer.

By the way, its "OFP" not "OPF" mister know it all...

I think most people bought ArmA because of OFP. Of course OFP had its fair share of problems, but how many games can you say was as good as OFP in its era? Apart from Farcry, I'd say none. Both OFP and Farcry was both ahead of its time. Thats why all the cry babies are so disappointed with ArmA, because they expected more.

Yes ArmA was poor on its release, but BI must have felt the pressure after releasing a game, that they most probably thought wouldn't of been as good as it is. What most people (like yourself) don't understand, is that BI are not EA, Sony or any other massive game developing company out there. They only have a small team, and they can only get better in time. They don't release games every week/month like all the other big gaming developers out there, hence why they come across so many problems. But they always release needed patches, which is more than i can say for other games out there.

"You make it out that people are unhappy because they "spent all their pocket money" (which again, shows your ignorance, either that or you are obsessed with "kiddies")" Ignorance? How? Im just stating the obvious, nothing more.

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You clearly don't understand this method of cheating either, on arma, i don't cheat to win. Its pointless. I cheat to have fun. Calling artillery on people, car bombs, suicide bombers (which are awesome BTW), see how many people i can get kicked for cheating who are innocent. Its not about winning, its about enjoying the game. I don't cheat because people are better than me (which some people are, its natural, i don't care if I'm defeated in a game), i cheat to have fun whilst i play.

"You clearly don't understand this method of cheating either, on arma," Well... Errmm.. Thats why im here smart ass...

Whether you call cheating fun or enjoyable, either way its childish, face facts, and stop trying to prove a point to yourself.

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Any while on the subject of me, if i wrote a book it would be an AUTO biography, dumbass. Oh and I'm not trying to prove a point, just poke holes in yours so hopefully you will see how little you understand, as you are oblivious to your own stupidity, yes i have a vocabulary too, and id bet my right arm I'm higher educated too, theres your "Kiddie" cheater for you.

Oops... I made a typo, slap my wrists. Should I now quote everyone else's posts, including yours with typo's? Grow up.

As for name calling, you wonder why I call you kiddies? lol... Theres your answer.

" id bet my right arm I'm higher educated too" Now, now, I don't really fancy exchanging body parts, but thanks anyway... You might be higher educated than me, maybe not. Hows it feel if I told you that I most probably earn more in a week/month than you do in a year? Thats with me sitting on my fat ass, and you working 2 jobs?

Where you say your building a new room, how do you not know im not building a new house? My point exactly, you DON'T. So quit with the assumptions, you know nothing about me, and it will stay that way. My personal life if for me to know, not you. If you wish to brag about your so called "life" so be it. But personally I think your living in a dream world, so wake up and smell the coffee.

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To answer some of your questions, why i stopped owning servers :  there are numerous reasons. Clans disband so the server is no longer needed, games die (or get horrible patches that changes everything you love about the game, like DoD 3.1 into DoD source), I moved to a different country, not as much time for gaming to justify a server. Did anyone force me to buy arma, no they certainly did not, you are correct there. But because i made a decision to buy a game that is broken (which i didn't know when i bought the game), does that mean i have to stop using it in a way i find fun?. The stock game is not fun for me, no where near as good as OPF was (which i never cheated in BTW, and my clan finished 2nd in the 2003 European flashpoint league, which is now called the European combat league), but add cheats to arma and you have one hell of a fun time. I bet you use mods, Scope fix, remodeled guns and new sounds, that's all "cheating". Anything that modifies your game and gives an advantage over others is a "cheat".

"But because i made a decision to buy a game that is broken (which i didn't know when i bought the game)" Love it!!! lol... Why didn't you take the game back to the shop if it was broken??? Or... Why didn't you check the game before you bought it???

I bought ArmA when it was at beta stages, maybe thats what you meant, if so you need to elaborate, because theres so much misunderstanding going on here its unbelievable. Anyway... When ArmA was first released, it was "STILL" playable, yes it had bugs, but what game doesn't? BI have released patches to try and squash most bugs, and have succeeded in doing so. ArmA is getting better and better, all we need is addons then you will see even more players joining the ArmA community.

In reply to your sentence about not cheating in OFP, you really expect people to believe that? You must thick as shit if you do. Once a cheat, always a cheat in my opinon. Their you go again with your so called bragging... You may of come 2nd, but only because the cheats allowed to do so. So stop trying to kid yourself and others...

As for addons and mods etc... Players have the choice whether or not to use them in their mission, or enable addons that overwrite default addons, without having to include them in a mission. Either way, the main server admin that has access to the server.cfg, has the option to whether or not he wants players to join on he's server using different kinds of modifications. All the modifications are released as .pbos if you haven't noticed. Which gives that choice to the admin whether or not he wants to allow those given .pbos.

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"True, very true, if you owned a server before, why not get one again? Just for the TKC, that way you can all enjoy ArmA in a cheat filled environment. Or can you not afford it? Have you wasted all your money on ArmA? Awww..."  See, here you go again. did you read my last post? at all? Yes i lied, i am broke, i live in a cardboard box (the one my PC came in) at the bottom of someones garden, all because i bought arma. Why don't YOU buy your own server, password it and never have to deal with cheaters again seeing as you hate them so much. You seem to like to tell others what to do with their money, so YOU buy a server, problem solved, or are you to tight fisted to pay for a server. You are the one with the issue here, I'm not telling you how to play the game, you have the problem. Why should anyone change the way they play just because you have a problem. If you don't like it, do something about it, really theres nothing more that needs to be said other than that   : If you are not happy, do something about it. Find a way to play the game that makes you happy. If that means buying a server and passwords, so be it, but I'm happy with the way i play, so i don't need to change a damn thing.

Why don't "I" buy/rent a server?? How do you know I don't own a server? I don't need to be in a clan to own a server, and I defiantly don't need to brag my ass off, with what I do, and don't own, any 2 year old can work that out. All you can do is presume and make accusations. You know nothing, about nothing.

I have a number of public and locked servers that I play on. I respect both the admins and servers for granting me the privilege of using them, and they respect me for having a good "FAIR" game with them.

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I have a very busy weekend ahead of me so i probably wont respond anymore, there you go , you have "Won"

Is that an excuse? Ah well, just as I was enjoying it. By the way, what have I exactly won? I didn't realize I was in-contention of actually winning anything. Just goes to show how much ive picked at your brain.

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Edit: what just happened is a prime example why i dont respect server admins. An admin on FUIAA server (or something like that) just tked me 3 times. First time its because he wanted to pilot the blackhawk (which i had earned the right to fly WITHOUT cheating, sucky EVO), then when i complain he tells me to STFU (big talk cos he had 3 clanners on with him). So the guy waits in spawn and TKs me again for "complaining". So i let it go, took the next Heli and flew in to the warzone. Then im on a hill sniping with him and his 3 clanners nearby, he runs out of ammo. Boom im dead with a pistol shot for my weapon, i complain and he said "tough shit, i needed ammo". He then banned me. Quick ID change later and i decide to destroy his server. Promptly lock him and all his clans keyboards and annihilate the server with arty, carpet bombs, suicide bombs, throwing thim up 3 meters in the air. He relogs and comes back on, so i try out a script ive never used before. "BYE BYE i have to go to the TOILET!!" made me laugh so hard. His server with 34 players currently playing on it is reduced to 5 (all his clan quit too). Respect people just because they put up a server, THIS is the reason i dont. Server admins generally treat people like shit, unfortunately he picked the wrong person, as i had more power on his server than he did. I dont normally destroy a server like this, but this guy deserved it.

Nice story. Thats a prime example of why I don't like Evolution. It just attracts Noobs, cheats, scum and rambos. Maybe thats why you all love it.

As for the guys that banned you, yes he may have been the server admin for that day, but im sure he wasn't the main admin of that clan. I reckon if the main admin caught him doing so, he would get a bollocking, and you handled the situation in a very mature manner. (Thats sarcasm by the way, don't let it go to your head.)  But thats my opinon on that matter...
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 15, 2007, 09:26:42 am

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Cool, dont we all.
What are you gonna do next? Write a web blog about it here?
 

I would, but I don't like to brag about what i do with my life  :wink2

From a guy who takes his time to write long ass posts at 4am (That's your local time).
You really can?t blame me for having major doubts.  :icon_laugh
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: O_o on September 15, 2007, 04:19:41 pm
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From a guy who takes his time to write long ass posts at 4am (That's your local time).
You really can?t blame me for having major doubts.  icon_laugh

Well considering it was Friday night, I didn't realize I had a curfew. Maybe I came back from a long night out on the piss, maybe I work nights, maybe I work early, or... maybe im just an early person. Whatever the reason, you will never know  :wink2
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: MrMedic on September 15, 2007, 04:38:48 pm

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Cool, dont we all.
What are you gonna do next? Write a web blog about it here?
 

I would, but I don't like to brag about what i do with my life  :wink2

From a guy who takes his time to write long ass posts at 4am (That's your local time).
You really can?t blame me for having major doubts.  :icon_laugh

lol , i skip past his posts m8 , he reminds me of a geezer i used to know.. when he talked he never changed the pitch in his voice , me and my dad used to call him the monotone lol.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 15, 2007, 07:05:45 pm
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Genuine players will kick the shit out of cheaters that don't use cheats "FACT".
Not true in my case..."FACT" hahaha.
I help admin a 50 player server (Vietcong) and it pisses people off that I average 10 kills per 1 death that they rant and yell "cheater".

All I ever do is camp choke in the jungle and those that complain are fools enough to keep comming down the same path.

They really get pissed when they can't call a kick vote on me not knowing I am the admin (I change name each game).


Now in ArmA I have been kicked for having too high a score with 2 deaths.
I was camping on a hill shooting the stupid AI with a silenced weapon...but the admin never took the time to spectate.

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Once the day finally comes, and you can't take anymore, which results in me being banned from these forums. I will truly, dearly, with all my heart and soul, miss you all very much.
To be banned on this forum you really have to go out of your way!
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 15, 2007, 09:47:40 pm
monotone lol.
Or Microsoft Sam  :icon_laugh

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Genuine players will kick the shit out of cheaters that don't use cheats "FACT".
FACT? Lmfao, you have just very swiftly summed yourself up there.
(http://img.printfection.com/15/56036/QHAKE.jpg)
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: MrMedic on September 16, 2007, 03:44:34 am
monotone lol.
Or Microsoft Sam  :icon_laugh

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Genuine players will kick the shit out of cheaters that don't use cheats "FACT".
FACT? Lmfao, you have just very swiftly summed yourself up there.
(http://img.printfection.com/15/56036/QHAKE.jpg)

amen lol nbtw pizzahut is slow lol im fuckn starving
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: O_o on September 16, 2007, 07:38:33 am
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he reminds me of a geezer i used to know.. when he talked he never changed the pitch in his voice , me and my dad used to call him the monotone lol.

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Or Microsoft Sam  icon_laugh

I'd prefer it if you used Steven Hawking  :icon_thumbsup

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FACT? Lmfao, you have just very swiftly summed yourself up there.

Not quite sure what your going on about, but anyway... Yes it is a "fact", very true also. Without your cheats your useless, so im pretty sure gamers that don't use cheats can wipe the floor with you. Ive seen it done plenty of times before.  :wink2

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Not true in my case..."FACT" hahaha.
I help admin a 50 player server (Vietcong) and it pisses people off that I average 10 kills per 1 death that they rant and yell "cheater".

All I ever do is camp choke in the jungle and those that complain are fools enough to keep comming down the same path.

They really get pissed when they can't call a kick vote on me not knowing I am the admin (I change name each game).


Now in ArmA I have been kicked for having too high a score with 2 deaths.
I was camping on a hill shooting the stupid AI with a silenced weapon...but the admin never took the time to spectate.

To be honest, ive never played Vietcong, even though I own a copy. Also, ive heard its one of the most abused games out there. (Cheat wise) So you can't really blame people...

Camping is apart of gaming, whether people like it or not thats their choice, your true there. Even I camp, and players are stupid enough to come back to the same spot lol...

I remember playing Americas Army, I was completely shit at first, then once I learned the game (without cheats), I started owning everyone, next thing they all voted to ban me, even my own team members ffs lol... But your always going to find stupid people out there, just like you will always have cheaters. BUT! You don't need to cry, and then use every cheat under the sun to make yourself feel better. Just find another server where you can have a good game, without people calling you a cheat.

I have never experienced this in ArmA though. Maybe its because I have found a server/s where accusations don't fly around left. right and center. It all depends on the server you join and what missions being played. Unless a server is locked, I stay well clear of Evolution and the Berzerks, as they seem to attract the biggest pricks of all.

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pizzahut is slow lol im fuckn starving

Go fetch then, simple as...
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: O_o on September 16, 2007, 07:40:47 am
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To be banned on this forum you really have to go out of your way!

Maybe I will one day, who knows  :wink2
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: O_o on September 16, 2007, 07:47:24 am
Oh by the way Wesker, as for my long ass posts... Its like pringles, Once you pop, you can't stop  :icon_laugh

I have a tendency to write long ass posts/letters/emails either way, you don't need to read them  :icon_thumbsup
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 16, 2007, 10:42:42 am
Oh by the way Wesker, as for my long ass posts... Its like pringles, Once you pop, you can't stop  :icon_laugh

I have a tendency to write long ass posts/letters/emails either way, you don't need to read them  :icon_thumbsup
Believe me I don't.
The only reason I picked out that little fact you made up is because it was quoted by Z.
If I was reading the long posts I would have made mention of how valid that statement was in my "4am post".
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: strykir on September 16, 2007, 05:21:45 pm
So you guys ruin MP games because you're pissed off about ArmA being buggy? And because you get called cheaters for camping? Why don't you just play a game you enjoy then? I guess it's because you enjoy the attention you get from pissing people off. How sad.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: d3dsh33p on September 16, 2007, 06:27:33 pm
I'm apearently too dumb to read this shit so...

(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l211/courtsiem/1160020674003.jpg)

who seriously reads that long of a post?

Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 16, 2007, 08:29:47 pm
So you guys ruin MP games because you're pissed off about ArmA being buggy? And because you get called cheaters for camping? Why don't you just play a game you enjoy then? I guess it's because you enjoy the attention you get from pissing people off. How sad.

I don't think ArmrA is buggy,plays well for me....I don't ruin MP games.

I am the server admin that camps and gets called a cheater....kind of funny.

I enjoy the games I play....don't bother cheating.

People get pissed off with me no matter what I do...most are from another forum and can't handle the truth or facts.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: strykir on September 17, 2007, 12:48:34 am
So you guys ruin MP games because you're pissed off about ArmA being buggy? And because you get called cheaters for camping? Why don't you just play a game you enjoy then? I guess it's because you enjoy the attention you get from pissing people off. How sad.

I don't think ArmrA is buggy,plays well for me....I don't ruin MP games.

I am the server admin that camps and gets called a cheater....kind of funny.

I enjoy the games I play....don't bother cheating.

People get pissed off with me no matter what I do...most are from another forum and can't handle the truth or facts.

You don't cheat? Then why the are you here?  :icon_confused2 Camping is perfectly fine, it's just part of the game. It's the guys that ruin the game that I have a problem with.
Title: Re: SCP 1.0
Post by: [TKC]Anothercheater on September 17, 2007, 02:47:48 am
Yea, but this is no security group. We're all about maximizing freedom, the necessity for unlimited fun and creativity. Soon ordinary users will be able to do whatever they want in MP for the first time in the history of multiplayer gaming.  :cheers

No bans, no admins, no rules, just loads of fun!

ALLAHU AKBAR!
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 17, 2007, 03:54:25 am
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Then why the are you here?

SEARCH the forum posts from me and you will know why I am here.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Evillor on September 17, 2007, 04:40:28 am
Im done, you have defeated me 0_o, In other words, i cant be arsed to waste any more time debating a topic that has no end. You arent here to "win" you say, but you posts mainly consist of arguments. Im not the one with something to prove here, and its plainly obvious by your words you are trying to prove a point.  As soon as you said "Genuine players will kick the shit out of cheaters that don't use cheats "FACT", that shows  how much you know.  I would like to see the statistics and your proof of this claim (simply because it doesnt exist). "I remember playing Americas Army, I was completely shit at first, then once I learned the game (without cheats), I started owning everyone, next thing they all voted to ban me". Im happy for you, thats happened to me on numerous games (but once a cheater always a cheater right?) Bottom line is, you presume to know and understand all cheaters (and as you quite rightly pointed out, we dont know you, and you dont know us). but anyways im done here, i have no more to say to you, as its becoming an endless nitpicking over what the last post contained, and that is diminishing both of our IQ's
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 17, 2007, 05:14:28 am
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As soon as you said "Genuine players will kick the shit out of cheaters that don't use cheats "FACT", that shows  how much you know.

Well the RN guys don't cheat and as soon as I learn to controll the aircraft I plan to upgrade from patch 1.05 to 1.08 and perhaps join them to have contests on locked servers they run against other clans.
Then you will see how a group of smart players kick ass in a contest.

Nic and the guys he plays with know my IP and know for a FACT that I have never bothered them and I have been on their TS....not like my IP is a secret to them.
They also have the fastest servers for ArmA as Nic builds them and then OVERCLOCKS them himself befor shipping to L.A. to be hosted on the main OC line that also feeds AU as well as the USA from here.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: O_o on September 17, 2007, 08:05:50 am
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Im done, you have defeated me 0_o, In other words, i cant be arsed to waste any more time debating a topic that has no end. You arent here to "win" you say, but you posts mainly consist of arguments. Im not the one with something to prove here, and its plainly obvious by your words you are trying to prove a point.  As soon as you said "Genuine players will kick the shit out of cheaters that don't use cheats "FACT", that shows  how much you know.  I would like to see the statistics and your proof of this claim (simply because it doesnt exist). "I remember playing Americas Army, I was completely shit at first, then once I learned the game (without cheats), I started owning everyone, next thing they all voted to ban me". Im happy for you, thats happened to me on numerous games (but once a cheater always a cheater right?) Bottom line is, you presume to know and understand all cheaters (and as you quite rightly pointed out, we dont know you, and you dont know us). but anyways im done here, i have no more to say to you, as its becoming an endless nitpicking over what the last post contained, and that is diminishing both of our IQ's

Fair enough, but lets get one thing straight, I wasn't here to cause arguments (If thats what you say), nor am I here to prove anything. I simple came here to ask some questions, and to see whether theres any logic as to why you need to cheat. Nothing more, nothing less. Then it just escalated and got a bit out of control, but oh well...

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Well the RN guys don't cheat and as soon as I learn to controll the aircraft I plan to upgrade from patch 1.05 to 1.08 and perhaps join them to have contests on locked servers they run against other clans.
Then you will see how a group of smart players kick ass in a contest.

Whats wrong with the aircrafts? I know the controls sucked in 1.04 and 1.05 but 1.08 patch has done nothing but improve ArmA overall for me... I can fly better, shoot better and my FPS has tripled since the release of 1.08. Ok there may be some bugs left, but not as bad as 1.04 + 1.05.

As for groups/clans, I have been in quite a few in the past, We have won and lost games, but theres nothing better than working as a team, knowing none of your members are cheating, whether its a Co-Op or Clan vs Clan match, either way its better than being a rambo, then trashing a server, just because you think it will be funny or fun. All I can say is good luck to you, if you play a clan vs clan match without cheats.

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Nic and the guys he plays with know my IP and know for a FACT that I have never bothered them and I have been on their TS....not like my IP is a secret to them.

For one, I don't have the foggiest idea who Nic is, Two, Why are you posting like you have a point to prove? In almost all of your posts you have said something about how you don't cheat. If people call me a cheat I just laugh at them, because deep down I know I don't cheat. I don't need to prove to them that I don't cheat. Its like you have something to hide.

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They also have the fastest servers for ArmA as Nic builds them and then OVERCLOCKS them himself befor shipping to L.A. to be hosted on the main OC line that also feeds AU as well as the USA from here.

Its not hard mate, I can build computers/servers (have done in the past). Overclocking is a walk in the park now days, im sure anyone with half a brain, and the balls to overclock there computer/server, can do it with ease. ArmA and OFP are bastards to run on a server, the amount of resources they hog is unbelievable. But then again, If you find a server that can withstand ArmA's needs, that can hold 60+ players. You get a retard come on the server who thinks it will be fun, to ruin or crash the server.
Title: Re: SCP 1.0
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 17, 2007, 04:59:28 pm
Yea, but this is no security group. We're all about maximizing freedom, the necessity for unlimited fun and creativity. Soon ordinary users will be able to do whatever they want in MP for the first time in the history of multiplayer gaming.  :cheers

No bans, no admins, no rules, just loads of fun!

ALLAHU AKBAR!

you rang?  :icon_biggrin2
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Doolittle on September 19, 2007, 03:25:05 am
Dear sir or madam,

Please do not cheat online. It is wrong and annoying.

Thanks!

Doolittle
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: fartface on September 20, 2007, 01:50:19 am
Been away for a while to NYC (wish i had asked if any of you guys lived near, so i could beat the fuck out of ya  :icon_laugh )  I pay into a server which you guys have bought down with your scripts.  what gives you the right to do that when i fully state when you enter the server that no cheating is allowed?  These scripts you use are cheats that effect how you play and effect other players.  The server is unlocked to allow people who dont want to cheat and to play fair on, as sometimes its hard to get all your mates on at the same times which means less players.  Now how about we (the Arma public) create a server list for you guys so you know which ones not to come on it as you are not welcome?  Whats the betting that everyone who owns a server (minus you tits) would vote for you to stay off their server.  That is a message in itself that basically tells you (i know its hard for you to get the message) that no body wants to play with you little boys anymore.  Your all twats, who would seriously get beaten to pulp if you did this kinda thing in a physical game.  Sort it out!
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 20, 2007, 02:09:59 am
I value the ArmA players that get angry over a computer game to the point they want to really fight about it. If you guys never existed then I don't think I would.
Imagine getting beat up by a guy that calls himself Fartface  :icon_laugh
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: bando on September 20, 2007, 05:41:21 am
those posts and pics makes me want to have a look at ArmA.
Seems you re having lots of fun :)
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 20, 2007, 06:03:14 am
@ fartface...
"All your Base Server are belong to us!"  :smile
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: strykir on September 20, 2007, 02:11:07 pm
I value the ArmA players that get angry over a computer game to the point they want to really fight about it. If you guys never existed then I don't think I would.
Imagine getting beat up by a guy that calls himself Fartface  :icon_laugh

Well imagine if you joined a real game, as in a sport - which I'm sure you've never tried  :icon_razz2
If you did the same thing there, people would beat the shit out of you! You ruin people's fun, so they get pissed off. What is so surprising about that? Surely at the age of 26 you would understand that. But maybe you have a learning disability or something.

@ZOldDude. Even though you don't cheat, you still support these guys. So IMO you are a worthless piece of shit just like the rest of them.

I wonder if Wesker will put me on post moderation here again  :icon_teehee
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 20, 2007, 03:22:14 pm
Well imagine if you joined a real game, as in a sport - which I'm sure you've never tried  :icon_razz2
If you did the same thing there, people would beat the shit out of you! You ruin people's fun, so they get pissed off. What is so surprising about that? Surely at the age of 26 you would understand that. 

Will be joining the army in a few months. I can assure you it'll be far more intensive than any sport you've played.
Real life sport cannot be compared to online gaming because

1) Games have random servers with random people.
2) Games are virtual... Not real.
3) A shit load of other reasons I cant be bothered to list.

I love the way you guys make stupid comparisons.
The best one was between cheating and rape.

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But maybe you have a learning disability or something.
Lol, sometimes I wounder how I got through Uni.

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I wonder if Wesker will put me on post moderation here again  :icon_teehee
Give me a good enough reason to have you put on moderation. If any of the admins here disagree with your foul mouthed tone in that last post then expect to be back on it shortly.
:Sigh: You're the one that hasn't learned.  :icon_laugh
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: strykir on September 20, 2007, 03:44:08 pm
Well imagine if you joined a real game, as in a sport - which I'm sure you've never tried  :icon_razz2
If you did the same thing there, people would beat the shit out of you! You ruin people's fun, so they get pissed off. What is so surprising
about that? Surely at the age of 26 you would understand that. 

Will be joining the army in a few months. I can assure you it'll be far more intensive than any sport you've played.
Real life sport cannot be compared to online gaming because
Well I hope you die  :icon_razz2

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1) Games have random servers with random people.
2) Games are virtual... Not real.
3) A shit load of other reasons I cant be bothered to list.

I love the way you guys make stupid comparisons.
The best one was between cheating and rape.
Well that comparison wasn't by me. I know about the differences, they are kinda obvious :icon_rolleyes2
People pay for those servers, they own them. Not you. It is disrespectful to spoil games on them. No point explaining that further I guess, it's not like you give a shit about other people.

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But maybe you have a learning disability or something.
Lol, sometimes I wounder how I got through Uni.
Good for you asshole.

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I wonder if Wesker will put me on post moderation here again  :icon_teehee
Give me a good enough reason to have you put on moderation. If any of the admins here disagree with your foul mouthed tone in that last post then expect to be back on it shortly.
:Sigh: You're the one that hasn't learned.  :icon_laugh
Oh yea, as if being punished on the TKC gay forums is going to ruin my life  :icon_laugh Really, why do you say that as if I would find that threatening? All it will do is stop me from posting here.

"foul mouthed tone"  :icon_laugh A few swear words. Nothing more than what you can get in a normal conversation, so stop being such a sissy  :icon_razz2
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 20, 2007, 03:49:13 pm
Well I hope you die  :icon_razz2
There's more chance of you dying of AIDS  :icon_laugh
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: M. O. on September 20, 2007, 03:55:15 pm
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Well that comparison wasn't by me. I know about the differences, they are kinda obvious
People pay for those servers, they own them. Not you. It is disrespectful to spoil games on them. No point explaining that further I guess, it's not like you give a shit about other people.

Some people own servers. That's correct. But that doesn't mean they own and got the right to control everything that's going on on them. If the server is public I get the right to play there by the game and host automatically.

We don't spoil no games, we prolong them.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: MrMedic on September 20, 2007, 04:15:44 pm
lalalalallllaaa on a cold and frosty mornin .. what a load of shite your all comming out with , only reason i botherd to read this all is ive got as cold and i can't be botherd to exit full stop exclamation mark
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: strykir on September 20, 2007, 04:51:48 pm
Well I hope you die  :icon_razz2
There's more chance of you dying of AIDS  :icon_laugh

Probably, but I'll just have to be careful not to get it  :icon_razz2
You may think it's funny, but I have known people who've died of AIDS. I know I live in the country with the highest AIDS infection rate in the world, and I also live in the province with the highest infection rate in the country. I hear jokes about it all the time, and I don't mind them. You may think it's funny to insult my country, and, well, so do many of us here :icon_razz2 It's a big shit hole, and I might leave in a few years depending on what happens.

You don't seem to have anything better to say than lame jokes, and you seem to think that they offend me. You suck you freak :icon_laugh

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Some people own servers. That's correct. But that doesn't mean they own and got the right to control everything that's going on on them. If the server is public I get the right to play there by the game and host automatically.

We don't spoil no games, we prolong them.
Those people pay for the servers, not you. So it is only right that they set the rules. Just because your website is publicly accessible, does that give people the right to hack it and spam the forums with porn and viagra ads?
You could always set up your own server to do what you want and allow cheats. But you're such a useless piece of shit you wont bother.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: fartface on September 20, 2007, 05:31:12 pm
Its not worth saying anymore to them Strykir mate.  They seem to have some sort of illness that strips away at all moral grounds 99.9% of the population have.  Everything they say is totally backwards, and whatever you say they just gloat about in their private section.  Believe they just need attention as mummy and daddy didnt give them no loving as a child.  They will get what they deserve in the end.  Now back to my locked server with decent players and people.

Fartface out fucktards!    :icon_sly


Edit... Admin please delete my account, wanna get the shitty smell off my computer...
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 20, 2007, 06:16:06 pm
Well I hope you die  :icon_razz2
There's more chance of you dying of AIDS  :icon_laugh

Probably, but I'll just have to be careful not to get it  :icon_razz2
You may think it's funny, but I have known people who've died of AIDS.
I didn't want to go into that but you were just asking for it when you wished death upon me.


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Edit... Admin please delete my account, wanna get the shitty smell off my computer...
Sorry sir but you cannot close your account with us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPiLh3Wdp9o
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: strykir on September 20, 2007, 07:33:47 pm
Well I hope you die  :icon_razz2
There's more chance of you dying of AIDS  :icon_laugh

Probably, but I'll just have to be careful not to get it  :icon_razz2
You may think it's funny, but I have known people who've died of AIDS.
I didn't want to go into that but you were just asking for it when you wished death upon me.

Well I give up. You're ignoring most of my points. You are lame.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: bando on September 20, 2007, 08:33:37 pm
Well I hope you die  :icon_razz2
There's more chance of you dying of AIDS  :icon_laugh

Probably, but I'll just have to be careful not to get it  :icon_razz2
You may think it's funny, but I have known people who've died of AIDS.
I didn't want to go into that but you were just asking for it when you wished death upon me.

Well I give up. You're ignoring most of my points. You are lame.

wishing someone s death is a awfull sin dude , worth than having some cheaters on your "open" server.
if you open one and don t like that some people have fun on it , just password it
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 20, 2007, 08:37:29 pm
Well I hope you die  :icon_razz2
There's more chance of you dying of AIDS  :icon_laugh

Probably, but I'll just have to be careful not to get it  :icon_razz2
You may think it's funny, but I have known people who've died of AIDS.
I didn't want to go into that but you were just asking for it when you wished death upon me.

Well I give up. You're ignoring most of my points. You are lame.




Lmao what did you expect, to be the messiah that convinced TKC to stop doing what it loves? ....

What everyone seems to not understand this that ArmA is like no other game out there (no smart asses shouting "err ofp?" lol ). To be provided with a framework that allows you to do whatever you want (without hacking,)  in your game world is a first as far as i'm aware. 

It was just a matter of time before it was exploited...

Some may consider the SCP to be a misuse of this framework but the fact remains that BIS have given us the tools to do the job, so why not pick them up and use em  :icon_biggrin2




Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: strykir on September 20, 2007, 09:05:43 pm
wishing someone s death is a awfull sin dude , worth than having some cheaters on your "open" server.
if you open one and don t like that some people have fun on it , just password it
Whatever :icon_razz2
I don't have my own open server, so I rely on others. Passwords aren't always an option unless you want to spend more time organizing things.

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Lmao what did you expect, to be the messiah that convinced TKC to stop doing what it loves? ....
Thanks for being an asshole, even though I wasn't even talking to you. I just pointed out that he wasn't responding to me.
Anyway, since better anti-cheat systems are coming out then it will take a little hacking to cheat (not that I think it wont happen). What's sad is that some really cool stuff could have been made instead of cheats. Such a waste.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Easy_tiger on September 20, 2007, 09:21:47 pm

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Thanks for being an asshole

my pleasure  :icon_biggrin2

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Anyway, since better anti-cheat systems are coming out then it will take a little hacking to cheat (not that I think it wont happen).

True i cant help but think BIS will have locked down remote object passing hard in 1.09.

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  What's sad is that some really cool stuff could have been made instead of cheats. Such a waste.

Some really cool stuff can still be made, the tools are there. Hopefully the SCP has shown that if you think outside the box with this game, pretty much anything you desire is possible with the right knowledge.

Anyway i'll let you get back to waiting for an answer to your points
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 20, 2007, 09:31:21 pm
What's more cooler than AT zombies?
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: strykir on September 20, 2007, 09:49:04 pm
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Anyway, since better anti-cheat systems are coming out then it will take a little hacking to cheat (not that I think it wont happen).

True i cant help but think BIS will have locked down remote object passing hard in 1.09.

I don't know about that. Might mess with some missions. But there are ways to deal with it.
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  What's sad is that some really cool stuff could have been made instead of cheats. Such a waste.

Some really cool stuff can still be made, the tools are there. Hopefully the SCP has shown that if you think outside the box with this game, pretty much anything you desire is possible with the right knowledge.
I don't think the SCP was necessary for that. It's nothing more than an attempt to ruin the game.

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Anyway i'll let you get back to waiting for an answer to your points
Gave up on that long ago.

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What's more cooler than AT zombies?
So you're just posting useless crap now? As cool as zombies are, they don't belong on every mission.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 20, 2007, 09:56:08 pm
What's more cooler than AT zombies?

The AA zombies.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 20, 2007, 10:07:39 pm
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@ZOldDude. Even though you don't cheat, you still support these guys.

Yes,I do support them 100%....I am an Admin here.
Yes,I also support fair contests 100%....I am an Admin on some of the largest servers.

What your small/narrow mind can't conceive is that a person is able to do both and not have a conflict between them.

Many of the Mods here on TKC are also Admin on game servers or sale server space.

Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: MrMedic on September 20, 2007, 10:08:44 pm
z i dont know why you just can't ignore the fuckers , if they spent as much time learning to programme as they do talking bollox on here then they would probably be able to stop some of the hacks we make..
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: strykir on September 20, 2007, 11:02:20 pm
z i dont know why you just can't ignore the fuckers , if they spent as much time learning to programme as they do talking bollox on here then they would probably be able to stop some of the hacks we make..
Why should we have to do that? We are not the game developers. That's just turning this into some lame programmer war. Although, if you've followed the BIS forums lately you will see that some people are doing that.
It's not my job to stop you guys anyway. You losers probably like the attention you get on your forums, just like you enjoy the insults you get in MP games.

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What your small/narrow mind can't conceive is that a person is able to do both and not have a conflict between them.
But you only support fairness in private games, not public. That is the problem here. You guys screw up public games. Because of people like you, others can't always just log on to a public server to enjoy the game.

And which ArmA servers have admins from TKC?
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 20, 2007, 11:08:19 pm
And which ArmA servers have admins from TKC?
Since the beginning of TKC we've had clan & dev members that are from various other clans.
It really shouldn't come as a big surprise. Telling who and what isn't a good idea.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 20, 2007, 11:51:31 pm
And which ArmA servers have admins from TKC?
Since the beginning of TKC we've had clan & dev members that are from various other clans.
It really shouldn't come as a big surprise. Telling who and what isn't a good idea.

...and people who work for software developers and publishers.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 21, 2007, 12:19:10 am
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"What your small/narrow mind can't conceive is that a person is able to do both and not have a conflict between them."

But you only support fairness in private games, not public.  You guys screw up public games. Because of people like you, others can't always just log on to a public server to enjoy the game.

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But you only support fairness in private games, not public.
Yeah...so?

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That is the problem here.
It's not a problem for me.

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Because of people like you, others can't always just log on to a public server to enjoy the game.
Why not?
How am I stopping them?

Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: strykir on September 21, 2007, 06:07:53 pm
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"What your small/narrow mind can't conceive is that a person is able to do both and not have a conflict between them."

But you only support fairness in private games, not public.  You guys screw up public games. Because of people like you, others can't always just log on to a public server to enjoy the game.

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But you only support fairness in private games, not public.
Yeah...so?

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That is the problem here.
It's not a problem for me.

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Because of people like you, others can't always just log on to a public server to enjoy the game.
Why not?
How am I stopping them?
Well that's a pretty pointless reply. Why did you even bother?
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 21, 2007, 06:38:20 pm
What was pointless about it?
You made statements dealing with myself and I responded in a forthwith and completely honest mannor.


Not everyone on the forum sees things the same way and my own viewpoints are not even the same as some of the staff here.

I asked 2 questions that you choose not to reply to.
Let me ask them again using more words.
So whats wrong with me supporting ladder contests while not caring about public cheating?
How am I stopping people from enjoying a public server?
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on September 21, 2007, 06:45:15 pm
Well that's a pretty pointless reply. Why did you even bother?
The same type of thing can be said about your presence here  :icon_thumbsup
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: strykir on September 21, 2007, 07:24:25 pm
Well that's a pretty pointless reply. Why did you even bother?
The same type of thing can be said about your presence here  :icon_thumbsup
Boredom  :icon_razz2

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So whats wrong with me supporting ladder contests while not caring about public cheating?
Because it doesn't help those who play on public servers. I realise you don't care, so no point discussing that.

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How am I stopping people from enjoying a public server?
By supporting the cheaters that ruin their fun.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: bando on September 21, 2007, 07:33:24 pm
what's wrong with cheating anyways , download the cheats and fight them with the same tools.
it s called evolution , just makes the game better , i am sure you will love the fun
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: strykir on September 21, 2007, 07:42:17 pm
what's wrong with cheating anyways , download the cheats and fight them with the same tools.
it s called evolution , just makes the game better , i am sure you will love the fun
Well it would be great if cheating only happened on certain servers. Not everyone enjoys fighting cheats.


I wonder, do you guys have certain servers where cheats are allowed, and servers where you avoid cheating? I guess you just cheat everywhere, but it would make some people happy if you left certain pub servers alone - not that I expect you to care about that.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: bando on September 21, 2007, 07:46:35 pm
i host a DM server on VC with no rules that welcome all cheaters and all kind of weirdos & freaks.
and i am kind of bored when i play on public servers especially the coop ones.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 21, 2007, 08:05:57 pm
Well that's a pretty pointless reply. Why did you even bother?
The same type of thing can be said about your presence here  :icon_thumbsup
Boredom  :icon_razz2

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So whats wrong with me supporting ladder contests while not caring about public cheating?
Because it doesn't help those who play on public servers. I realise you don't care, so no point discussing that.

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How am I stopping people from enjoying a public server?
By supporting the cheaters that ruin their fun.

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Because it doesn't help those who play on public servers.
True.
On the other hand I am not required to help anyone at all...so seeing as I do help out honest ladder contests I think I should be given -some- credit from both yourself and like minded people. Hell even the staff and programmers here at TKC do that much for me....and they are all about cheating!

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By supporting the cheaters that ruin their fun.
I also support fair ladder contests.
What would you have me do...give up what makes me happy just so it suits a few people?
I fell good with how I live and balance how I help those in the world around me.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 21, 2007, 08:10:19 pm
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Well it would be great if cheating only happened on certain servers. Not everyone enjoys fighting cheats.

The servers I and others who are staff in TKC admin don't have any cheating.
It is the worlds best anti-cheat...it's called proper admin's.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: strykir on September 21, 2007, 08:22:01 pm
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Well it would be great if cheating only happened on certain servers. Not everyone enjoys fighting cheats.

The servers I and others who are staff in TKC admin don't have any cheating.
It is the worlds best anti-cheat...it's called proper admin's.
But are those public servers? I am not concerned with private servers here. And the SCP is advertised as being able to kick admins. So what makes you guys so special?

So how is it possible for someone to be able to play on a public server without being bothered by cheats?
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 22, 2007, 04:05:28 am
Quote from: strykir link=topic=6629.msg68372#msg68372 date=1190388google.com
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Well it would be great if cheating only happened on certain servers. Not everyone enjoys fighting cheats.

The servers I and others who are staff in TKC admin don't have any cheating.
It is the worlds best anti-cheat...it's called proper admin's.
But are those public servers? I am not concerned with private servers here. And the SCP is advertised as being able to kick admins. So what makes you guys so special?

So how is it possible for someone to be able to play on a public server without being bothered by cheats?

Yes public servers...LARGE public servers and for many differant games.

I refuse to allow people to kick me or lock my keyboard when I am the admin.
Being able to keep what I do here on/for TKC and what I do for certain server owners -seperate- is how/why both sides give me their trust.

My personal rules:
*Always be up front with people.
*Never rat or snitch anyone out.
*Go fishing,drink beers and screw like a mad man.
*Kick anyones ass that trys to harm me or rip me off.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: fartface on September 23, 2007, 04:49:51 am
kinda contradict yourself dont you?  You host a website for cocks who ruin peoples games, who have the ability to kick admins and lock keyboards and other gay options,  but im sure that if that happens to you on the server you admin you would cry likel a big girl.  What gives you the right to have a cheat free server while others have these muppets running around?  oOn 2nd thoughts you dont have to answer as i know it will be a cocky answer which defies all logic.

 Oh and by the way, i played a cheat free game tonight, which was a public server and it was sheer heaven.  I actually enjoyed myself playing this great game with other like minded people who know how to play a game by a set rule.  Kiss my white English arse you plebs hahahaha  :icon_laugh
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: ZOldDude on September 23, 2007, 05:17:25 am
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What gives you the right to have a cheat free server

I do.
Any more questions?
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: [TKC]Symantic on September 23, 2007, 05:36:53 am
its like this. if your a hunter you would have to know something about giving back.
we have to have a place for people to go who dont want to have cheats on a server.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: bando on September 25, 2007, 07:42:10 pm
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What gives you the right to have a cheat free server

I do.
Any more questions?

rofl :)
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Evillor on September 26, 2007, 09:21:24 pm
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What gives you the right to have a cheat free server

I do.
Any more questions?

rofl :)

Ahh so now you need rights to own cheat a free server. Im glad im helping the community by stopping all the unworthy of having a cheat free game.

Cheating shows you care
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: MOHAMMED on October 26, 2007, 02:26:47 am
guys guys , we should close tkc community from public and make it with speciale password only for members , and ban BIS from here , so they can't make anti-tkc things ,

BIS is good and funny games company becoz they made holly crap shit online games with very nice graphics and easy to make a tkc cheat pack for it, its really fun and i like BIS and i encourage them to make a fuckin shit bugged games and take care about graphics so we can make cheats packs for it , i wish it for ofp2 .........

Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Doolittle on October 26, 2007, 03:56:32 am
I agree. The less kiddies have access to cheats the better. It's best to kept the cheat programs to only a select few.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: crawler on October 26, 2007, 01:39:10 pm
Everybody's gotta do what they have to do.
No good without bad and there would be no advancement if there was no need for it and we would be living in caves.

Personally I support exe-cracking (noCD etc) as i think developers shouldn't be able to rip people off with shitty stuff but players on the other hand should be honest enough to buy games they really like. Personally I decided to buy the game after playing with the cracked version for 3 mnths. I didn't pay for the QG and not planning to as I think it's not worth it. Couple of addons being sold for half price of the original game. I think developers would gain a lot if they would distribute and allow people to play their games for free but require a licence in the following month.

Re the cheating, do whatever you want in SP but personally i don't like it being exercised in MP and I think it has little to do with any philosopy but think its just an exercise for newbies and wannabes. But then again, no advancement without the need.

edit...
PS use your own colors btw..why use BI colors  :icon_laugh .... you should be different from them.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: IllAssembly on November 06, 2007, 04:41:11 am
doolittle please your dwelling on this anti cheat shit. games will always have programmers making cheats and getting away with it. when were you born? i know a a place way better for you where no one cheats..maybe u should check it out its called the MOON and maybe ull be on it when i blow it up
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Doolittle on November 06, 2007, 04:53:41 am
hash, I've always argued you shouldn't cheat. Don't do it. It's wrong. We don't like it. Just because it's there doesn't mean it should be abused. Show some self-control. Yadda yadda.

It's kinda like this, and I'll explain in a way you might understand... say you could blow up the moon. Should you? Wouldn't that affect the tides? Shouldn't you consider others might like looking at it? Isn't it there for us all to enjoy? Why do you have to ruin it for everyone else? So, please... don't blow it up.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: [TKC]Wesker on November 06, 2007, 05:29:26 am
Doolittle, I don't think there is anything you can say here that'll turn a cheater into a non-cheater. So why waste your time?
It would make sense if you where an influential guy, but your not!

You remind me of a door knocking Jehovah Witness.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: IllAssembly on November 06, 2007, 07:42:14 am
im not a "cheater" i paid for my game im getting the most out of it. you dont control it, i do. if your game isnt up to par its not my fault. u need to get some cheats and quit being a bitch
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Doolittle on November 06, 2007, 11:15:23 am
When you play online you play with other people, hash. They are not advanced AI.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: d3dsh33p on November 06, 2007, 06:23:58 pm
im not a "cheater" i paid for my game im getting the most out of it. you dont control it, i do. if your game isnt up to par its not my fault. u need to get some cheats and quit being a bitch

lol
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: IllAssembly on November 07, 2007, 02:57:12 am
When you play online you play with other people, hash. They are not advanced AI.
yeah exactly my point. they also paid for their software and if they choose not to use it to its full potential that is their fault, not mine.

your case would actually be more justified if we played against "advanced AI"
and many times people do only play against "advanced AI"   you should know that (evolution) or do u spend too much time crying on here to actually play it
Title: Re: SCP 1.0
Post by: i R Cheater on January 18, 2008, 03:02:44 am
No bans, no admins, no rules, just loads of fun!

wow that gave me an erection.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: M. O. on January 18, 2008, 04:22:49 am
Yea I better hope it did  :icon_razz2
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Oynky on January 24, 2008, 08:33:57 pm
When you play online you play with other people, hash. They are not advanced AI.

I didnt knew that, thank you so much for that info.
Title: Re: Let BIS have your stuff
Post by: Frank P. on January 25, 2008, 08:25:25 am
No bans, no admins, no rules, just loads of fun!

wow that gave me an erection.
Your not the only one.